This is a great article! Thank you for sending it.

I found this on the Library of Virginia web site: James Agnor Civil War Pension Application <A HREF="http://image.vtls.com/CP/CP-1/047/00024.tif">http://image.vtls.com/C< /A> P/CP-1/047/00024.tif WPA life history, Agnor <A HREF="http://198.17.62.51/WPL/1848/00455.tif">http://198.17.62.51/WPL/1848/ 00455.tif</A>

dear richard... sAP STANDS FOR SEARCHING FOR ARCHIBALD PARENTS... ITS WAS WHAT WE CALLED OURSELVES WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER ON ICQ TO CHAT ABOUT THE EGNOR'S... YEAH WE DO SERVE REFRESHMENTS AT THE MEETINGS PLUS VERY STRONG COFFEE.... WE FIGURED OUT WE NEEDED FOR THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE.... :-) ===== HTTP://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/richard/755/index.html my genealogy page on the net.. check it out.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Question! What is a SAP meeting and will there be donuts? Dick Gould ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [A/EGNER] Fw: Agenor in VA in 1634 Author: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com at internet Date: 11/17/1999 2:35 PM oh lord help us...we dnt need this right know where these folks are concerned... if there is another agenor in va that early..<GRRRRR> i have question.... do we know what county this person was in at the time in question. i can go to the state archives and look... if you all can prove me with some information on this mystery person..but with it that early that might be a little tricky too do....later.... <WARNING: TO THE LISTOWNER AND CAROL.... I FEEL A SAP MEETING COMING ON REAL SOON ABOUT THIS PERSON...> ===== HTTP://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/richard/755/index.html my genealogy page on the net.. check it out.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsw eb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

oh lord help us...we dnt need this right know where these folks are concerned... if there is another agenor in va that early..<GRRRRR> i have question.... do we know what county this person was in at the time in question. i can go to the state archives and look... if you all can prove me with some information on this mystery person..but with it that early that might be a little tricky too do....later.... <WARNING: TO THE LISTOWNER AND CAROL.... I FEEL A SAP MEETING COMING ON REAL SOON ABOUT THIS PERSON...> ===== HTTP://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/richard/755/index.html my genealogy page on the net.. check it out.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Sorry, folks.........here's the correct url. I forgot to check the url before I sent to everyone: http://image.vtls.com/disk18/CR/03490/0004.tiff ----- Original Message ----- From: <P1TTYPAT@aol.com> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [A/EGNER] Fw: Agenor in VA in 1634 > In a message dated 11/17/1999 7:19:20 AM Central Standard Time, > hartmann@bright.net writes: > > > http://imaged.vtls.com/disk18/CR/03490/0004.tif > doesn't work - must be a misspelling > > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

OK, folks, this is scary!!! My sister-in-law turned up an AGENOR in Viriginia Colonial Records in 1634!!!! Previous to this the three earliest known Egner/Agner immigrants were 1709 (Peter Eygner-NY), 1727 (Mathias Egner-PA), and 1731 (Johannes Aegender-PA)!!! --Celia, Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: <DEgnor@aol.com> To: <hartmann@bright.net> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:09 AM Subject: Agenor in VA in 1634 > This shows a Nicholas Agenor was in Virginia in 1634! > > > > Virginia Colonial Records > > S. R. Number SR 03490 > Reel Number 433 > Repository Public Record Office Class E 190/38/5. > Title Port Book. Port of London. Surveyor General of Tunnage and Poundage. > Overseas imports by denizens. > Dates 1633-1634 > > Name Agenor, Nicholas -- 1634, SR 03490, p. 4. > > Click here to see the image: http://imaged.vtls.com/disk18/CR/03490/0004.tif

Here's information on the site where I found the info. I received the quarterly publication from Ancestry.com yesterday. They reference the Library of Virgina Digital Library Program which has "digitized more than 2.2 million original documents, photographs, and maps...". There web site is http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/index.htm To go directly to the Virginia Colonial records where I found this information, go to: http://eagle.vsla.edu/colonial/ Select: Word or Phrase Search Enter: Agenor Under the Subject words column, click on the number "1" You will see this screen: Virginia Colonial Records: RECORDS WITH SELECTED KEYWORDS Click on a number to view the associated publication. AGENOR (1) - 1 hit 1. Port Book. Port of London. Surveyor General Public Record Office Class 1633-1634 8. Click on the "1" and you will get this screen: Virginia Colonial Records: CATALOG CARD MULTIMEDIA Image or other media information available S. R. Number SR 03490 (click on this is see actual image) Reel Number 433 Repository Public Record Office Class E 190/38/5. Title Port Book. Port of London. Surveyor General of Tunnage and Poundage. Overseas imports by denizens. Dates 1633-1634 Name Adams, John -- 1634, SR 03490, p. 4. Name Agenor, Nicholas -- 1634, SR 03490, p. 4.

In a message dated 11/17/1999 7:19:20 AM Central Standard Time, hartmann@bright.net writes: > http://imaged.vtls.com/disk18/CR/03490/0004.tif doesn't work - must be a misspelling

Hi Celia, I believe that Mary Egner/Egnor is the daughter of Isaac & Christina Mull Agner. The information I have found is that Mary husband's name is John Samons (could have two "m"). Mary was b. Abt 1831, NC; m. 22 August 1852 in Whitley Co, KY. So the information that you found fits this picture. John would have been b. Abt April 1851. Later, The other "Celia" -----Original Message----- From: Celia, Ritch, & Beth [mailto:hartmann@bright.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:50 AM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [A/EGNER] A Whitley Co. Egnor This came via a totally different list and just happened to contain an Egnor. Maybe someone out there needs this. Subject: Whitley County Deaths Name Status Deathdate Age Cause Parents Name Misc Information John C. - 5 Feb 1854 - 2 yr.10m - Scarlet fever - Josh/Mary(Egnor)Sammons We now have 39 members to this list. I will be trying to sort through some of the Eygner Eagle newsletters and pass on various articles to the list from time-to-time. --Celia, list owner ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

This came via a totally different list and just happened to contain an Egnor. Maybe someone out there needs this. Subject: Whitley County Deaths Name Status Deathdate Age Cause Parents Name Misc Information John C. - 5 Feb 1854 - 2 yr.10m - Scarlet fever - Josh/Mary(Egnor)Sammons We now have 39 members to this list. I will be trying to sort through some of the Eygner Eagle newsletters and pass on various articles to the list from time-to-time. --Celia, list owner

HI THERE... SOMEBODY HAS SENT ME SOME INFORMATION ON A FANNIE AGNER WHO MARRIED A DERRING LEE RIDENOUR.... THEY HAD TWO CHILDERN: EDITH RIDENOUR HELEN RIDENOUR THATS ALL THE INFORMATION THEY GAVE ME... NO DATES.. IM ASSUMING THEY CAME FROM NORTH CAROLINA... HAS SOME BODY RAN ACROSS THESE NAMES BEFORE AND CAN THEY HELP ME OUT ANY AT ALL..... THANKS :-) ps... ===== HTTP://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/richard/755/index.html my genealogy page on the net.. check it out.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

i have to agree with Celia on Rowan co. North Carolina.... this group of Agner's have been very hard to search and to verify down there...Thats why we have been working like crazy over the past year in trying to sort this family out once and for all....We even had problems with them when we were looking for them in pa... due to the fact there was another group of Egner's living in the same county as they were.It took us forever to figure out that we were dealing with two different families all together.... What finally gave it away was the fact that Celia or Carol discovered that one of the sons for Mathias Egner ddnt belong to him at all... This was Ludiwg....for years researchers thought he belonged to Mathis... But he didnt he belong to Johannes Agender.....Thats how we discovered there were two different families living in Lehigh co. Pa with similar names and were finally able to sort these families out to a degree...But Mathias family still needs work done on them...Several of his son's are not accounted for at this time.....We Think that maybe one of his son's Jacob ended up in Rowan Co. N.C around the same time that Johannes and his family showed up down there...Just cant prove it.... WE looked into the famous wagon trail from the NorthEast to deep south....That's how we discovered that several of Ludwig's childern followed this trail... They went from Frederick and Washington Counties in Maryland to Rockbridge County, Virginia.... Couple of his childern went into Ohio and settled... Im done for the moment..... :-) ===== HTTP://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/richard/755/index.html my genealogy page on the net.. check it out.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

A comment - when dealing with Rowan in this period (before 1800), assuming all are from one line is likely to lead you astray. Case in point - while researching my 3g & 4g grandfathers (both named Benjamin Young), I found Benjamin Youngs from 3 different lines - all in the same period - in Rowan. They all came from different areas. (One of those Youngs later married an Agner, so we're not totally off-topic! :-) To understand genealogy in Rowan, you have to understand the history of the area - particularly the Great Wagon Road. Rowan was the focal point of TWO great migration patterns - from Pennsylvania and surrounding areas to Rowan, and from the Rowan area west, including modern-day Tennessee, Kentucky, and Missouri. If someone seems to have dropped into Rowan from outer space, look back up the Great Wagon Road. If they disappeared, look west - or back up the Road! (Some pushed on, some got homesick.) Taking a look at the history of the area, you'll encounter: The Granville Land Grants The Moravians Conestoga wagons The Cherokees (and many other tribes) The State of Franklin (ever hear of that one?) Daniel Boone and family and the gateway to Kentucky - and points west! I'd suggest the following article on the Great Wagon Road as a starting point: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/R/ROWANROOTS+19 99+421533994+F There's an imperfect, but interesting, map of the Wagon Road at: http://marketplace.staunton.va.us/oldtur/wagroad.html By the way - when researching folks in Rowan, note the number of early tavern and inn keepers. The Wagon Road was a powerful influence - and a great source of cash in an area that was really a barter economy at the time. Good Hunting! Stan Young > -----Original Message----- > From: Celia, Ritch, & Beth [mailto:hartmann@bright.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 10 November, 1999 09:08 > To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A/EGNER] E/Agners of SC > <snip> > Rowan is so messed up and there doesn't seem to be any > documentation to > help us out. In Rowan, some believe two separate lines > settled; though > they are usually assumed to from the same line. <snip>

Celia, Ritch, & Beth wrote: > > I got this through one of my mailing lists.....had to ask our Archive > expert. > --Celia > > HOW TO PRESERVE A NEWSPAPER CLIPPING > > When you find a special recipe in the newspaper or want to save a birth > or wedding announcement, here's how: > To preserve a newspaper clipping, dissolve a milk of magnesia tablet in > a quart of club soda and let it sit overnight. The next day pour the > mixture > into a pan large enough to hold the flattened newspaper clipping. Soak the > clipping for one hour: remove and gently pat dry. Place the clipping on a > flat surface and do not move until completely dry. The estimated life of > your clipping after the milk of magnesia treatment is 200 years. > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi Hi, This receipe really works. I've used it on very old obituaries and other old papers. Was pleased with results. BL Brown

I got this through one of my mailing lists.....had to ask our Archive expert. --Celia HOW TO PRESERVE A NEWSPAPER CLIPPING When you find a special recipe in the newspaper or want to save a birth or wedding announcement, here's how: To preserve a newspaper clipping, dissolve a milk of magnesia tablet in a quart of club soda and let it sit overnight. The next day pour the mixture into a pan large enough to hold the flattened newspaper clipping. Soak the clipping for one hour: remove and gently pat dry. Place the clipping on a flat surface and do not move until completely dry. The estimated life of your clipping after the milk of magnesia treatment is 200 years.

In 1992, CYNTHIA WILLIAMSON of UT submitted this line to the LDS. She has Samuel's father as John Agner (abt. 1796-1828 Abbeville SC). Abbeville is only two counties away from Newberry, and Newberry is where George Egner/Agner's line settled. George came out of Rowan NC. And herein lies the problem. Rowan is so messed up and there doesn't seem to be any documentation to help us out. In Rowan, some believe two separate lines settled; though they are usually assumed to from the same line. Henry Aegender/Agner and Jacob Egner both settled there in the mid to late 1750s. We know Henry is one of two sons of Johannes Aegender (the other being Ludwig who lived in PA and MD). Jacob may have been the eldest son of Johann Mathias Egner of modern day Lehigh County. Mathias' will mentions his eldest son Jacob and makes it sound like he already received his inheritance. Jacob is last known be in the (now) Lehigh area in 1750 for the baptism of his daughter Magdalena. Descendents are having trouble figuring out where their ancestor comes from: Henry's line or Jacob's line. My gut feeling is that it is Jacob's line that went to SC. This is solely based on the fact that a Revolutionary War veteran Mathias Egner appears in SC. However it is possible that some of both lines went to SC. The SC line seems so different from Rowan. I don't think Rowan lines had slaves, yet SC did. Just something I noticed. Got our work cut out for us!!!! --Celia, list owner. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tamboe1@aol.com> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [A/EGNER] Egnor Line > Here is what I know about My Agner Family. Great-G-G Grandparents are Samuel > Agner and Martha Mary Tittle, My Great-G Grandparents are John Lewis Agner > and Barbara Isabelle Stephens my Great Grandparents were Willie James Agner > andFannie Lou Pulliam and My Grandparents are Joe Dean Agner and Helen > Reavesand my parents are Ellen Joan Agner and Simmie Phillips > > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! > Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Pleaseput me on the list for Agner

Here is what I know about My Agner Family. Great-G-G Grandparents are Samuel Agner and Martha Mary Tittle, My Great-G Grandparents are John Lewis Agner and Barbara Isabelle Stephens my Great Grandparents were Willie James Agner andFannie Lou Pulliam and My Grandparents are Joe Dean Agner and Helen Reavesand my parents are Ellen Joan Agner and Simmie Phillips

DEAR CUZ... ID LOVE TO TAKE A TRIP TO MONORE CO. W.VA AND LOOK AT THERE RECORDS.... ME AND CELIA AND CAROL ALL HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON THE ERSKINES AND MASSEY'S AND THE GULLETT'S OF THAT COUNTY....THESE ARE THE THREE MAJOR ROAD BLOCK'S WE HAVE LEFT IN THAT COUNTY TOO SOLVE COMPLETELY.....THE THING WITH THE GEOGREGULLETT IS FIGURE OUT WHY POLLY EGNOR WAS LISTED WITH HIM IN THE 1850 CENSUS FOR MONROE CO. W.VA.WHY WASNT SHELIVING WITH ARCHIBALD OR ELIZABETHAT THIS TIME... I FOUND OUT OVER THE SUMMER IN BOOK ENTITLED THE HISTORY OF MONORE CO. W.VA.. THAT THERE WERE THREE ERSKINES FAMILIES IN MONROE CO... TWO BRANCHES OF THIS FAMILY CAN BE TRACED BACK TO GOOD OLD CECIL CO. MD..... ONCE THERE ONE BRANCH WENT TO ALABAMA AND THE OTHER TO TEXAS... THERE WAS A THIRD BRANCH THERE AND NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM AT ALL...ACCORDING TO THIS BOOK... GUESS WHAT WE THINK THAT ALEXANDER ERSKINE AND ELIZABETH COME OFF THAT THIRD BRANCH BUT ARE NOT FOR SURE YET...THE ARCHIVES HAVE THIS BOOK TOO... IVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH A FEW PEOPLE OFF THE ERKSINE GEN FORUM PAGE TYRING TO HELP US SORT THEM OUT TOO... WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM WENT TO HIGHLAND CO. OHIO... WE THINK THAT MAYBE ARE ALEXANDER ERSKINE TIES IN WITH THEM... BUT ARE FOR SURE YET... I HAVE ALEXANDER ON THE 1850 AND 1860 CENSUS FOR MONROE CO. VIRGINIA.. HIS SON ARCHIBALD MADISON FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR..... IM NOT FOR WHICH UNIT IT WAS....WHAT HAPPEN TO THIS FAMILY AFTER THE CIVIL WAR... I HAVE CHECKED DEATH RECORDS FOR MONROE CO..AND CANT FIND EITHER ALEX OR ELIZABETH. LATER... PATSY ===== HTTP://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/richard/755/index.html my genealogy page on the net.. check it out.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com