Hi Celia, I have copies of the muster rolls from some books I found - I'll get to you. One is from a PA book, "Revolutionary Soldiers from Lehigh County", I believe. I'll pull together & send it. Talk to ya later! P.s. - thanks for clearing up the below message. -----Original Message----- From: Celia, Ritch, & Beth [SMTP:hartmann@bright.net] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:07 AM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [EGNER] Sandi's John Clarification on Sandi's John.....she means John Aegender/Agner, son of Ludwig Aegender. So many Johns around, I just wanted to specify which one. (Lots of Jacob's and Henry's and George's too!) Sandi, several of us would be interested in those muster rolls, we've never seen them! Where did you find and what exactly do they say? --Celia H. :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Yoemans <syoemans@safnow.org> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 10:42 AM Subject: RE: [EGNER] Egners in Cecil Co, MD > Hi, I'm interested in John Egner mainly and documenting his Revolutionary > records & his EXACT birthdate - I have many possibilities, i.e., ~1749, > 1750, even 1755! I know he was born in Pennsylvania at Lehigh County. He > married Margaret (probably in Pennsylvania, don't have her last name!). > And, thanks to Celia, I now have the company he served in during the Rev. > I had a John who had turned up as listed on the muster rolls - but no > record of where he mustered in from! I figured it had to be him because > the age seemed right to have been in the war, but I still need to prove it! > I have seen the name Jacob - believe he was born in PA. I'll look tonight > in some of my vital records files & whatever I find, I'll e-mail to you > tomorrow. Thanks for your information, though. Since I see your Jacob's > father was Peter, I really think I may have a birthdate on him - I'll let > ya know! Thanks again for getting in touch! ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Clarification on Sandi's John.....she means John Aegender/Agner, son of Ludwig Aegender. So many Johns around, I just wanted to specify which one. (Lots of Jacob's and Henry's and George's too!) Sandi, several of us would be interested in those muster rolls, we've never seen them! Where did you find and what exactly do they say? --Celia H. :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Yoemans <syoemans@safnow.org> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 10:42 AM Subject: RE: [EGNER] Egners in Cecil Co, MD > Hi, I'm interested in John Egner mainly and documenting his Revolutionary > records & his EXACT birthdate - I have many possibilities, i.e., ~1749, > 1750, even 1755! I know he was born in Pennsylvania at Lehigh County. He > married Margaret (probably in Pennsylvania, don't have her last name!). > And, thanks to Celia, I now have the company he served in during the Rev. > I had a John who had turned up as listed on the muster rolls - but no > record of where he mustered in from! I figured it had to be him because > the age seemed right to have been in the war, but I still need to prove it! > I have seen the name Jacob - believe he was born in PA. I'll look tonight > in some of my vital records files & whatever I find, I'll e-mail to you > tomorrow. Thanks for your information, though. Since I see your Jacob's > father was Peter, I really think I may have a birthdate on him - I'll let > ya know! Thanks again for getting in touch!

----- Original Message ----- From: <DoArbuckle@aol.com> > Jacob's father was named Peter and his mother was Margaret. We do know that the Mathias Egner line of Lehigh County PA had a son named Peter who was married to a Margaretha. This very well could be Jacob's parents. We lose track of Peter and Margaret after their fourth child is born in Montgomery County, PA in 1780. Mathias came from German in 1727 aboard the Molly. Here is a URL to a descendent chart on the Mathias line: http://www.kerchner.com/des735.htm Peter is near the bottom. There's still lots to figure out in Cecil County, but this may be one step closer to proving the line did indeed come from Mathias. --Celia :o)

Hi, I'm interested in John Egner mainly and documenting his Revolutionary records & his EXACT birthdate - I have many possibilities, i.e., ~1749, 1750, even 1755! I know he was born in Pennsylvania at Lehigh County. He married Margaret (probably in Pennsylvania, don't have her last name!). And, thanks to Celia, I now have the company he served in during the Rev. I had a John who had turned up as listed on the muster rolls - but no record of where he mustered in from! I figured it had to be him because the age seemed right to have been in the war, but I still need to prove it! I have seen the name Jacob - believe he was born in PA. I'll look tonight in some of my vital records files & whatever I find, I'll e-mail to you tomorrow. Thanks for your information, though. Since I see your Jacob's father was Peter, I really think I may have a birthdate on him - I'll let ya know! Thanks again for getting in touch! -----Original Message----- From: DoArbuckle@aol.com [SMTP:DoArbuckle@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:19 PM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [EGNER] Egners in Cecil Co, MD Celia informed me of this list and invited me to post, so here goes: I have info on the following Egner's. Mary Egner and Rensallaer/Ransalear Biddle are my GGG Grandparents. Jacob, died 30-Jun-1838 (perhaps 1828) married first to Elizabeth ISSUE Elizabeth, born 18-Jan-1809, married to Boulden BIDDLE married second on 23-Aug-1810 to Sylvia EVANS who died 27-Feb-1821 ISSUE 1) Mary, born 1-Jul-1811, died 10-Jun-1843, married Rensellaer/Ransalear BIDDLE 2) Joel Evans, born 17-Jul-1813 3) Margaret Ann, born 14-Aug-1815 4) Catherine, born 15-May-1819, died 22-Mar-1821 married third on 11-Sep-1821 to Margaret WILLIAMS ISSUE 1) John Evans, born 24-Jul-1822 2) David William, born 3-Aug-1824 3) Harriet Jane, born 21-Sep-1826 Jacob's father was named Peter and his mother was Margaret. The source of my information is from work my grandfather did about 50-60 years ago. While he was smart and a hard worker, he was not trained as a researcher or genealogist, and there was no Internet for training! Therefore, he did not document all of his sources. He is dead and has been since before I got interested in genealogy, so I can't him questions. My father (his son) tells me that most of the info came from family members, cemetary trips, and from people he identified as related to him through a fairly extensive letter-writing campaign. With regard to Peter and Margaret being Jacob's parents, which was "news" to Celia, all I have is my grandfather's explicit notes on this point. While I have found a few spelling errors and "holes" in my grandfather's information, to date I have found no errors -- he did not write it down unless he had some evidence that it was true. I look forward to hearing from cousins on the list. Doug Arbuckle ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Celia informed me of this list and invited me to post, so here goes: I have info on the following Egner's. Mary Egner and Rensallaer/Ransalear Biddle are my GGG Grandparents. Jacob, died 30-Jun-1838 (perhaps 1828) married first to Elizabeth ISSUE Elizabeth, born 18-Jan-1809, married to Boulden BIDDLE married second on 23-Aug-1810 to Sylvia EVANS who died 27-Feb-1821 ISSUE 1) Mary, born 1-Jul-1811, died 10-Jun-1843, married Rensellaer/Ransalear BIDDLE 2) Joel Evans, born 17-Jul-1813 3) Margaret Ann, born 14-Aug-1815 4) Catherine, born 15-May-1819, died 22-Mar-1821 married third on 11-Sep-1821 to Margaret WILLIAMS ISSUE 1) John Evans, born 24-Jul-1822 2) David William, born 3-Aug-1824 3) Harriet Jane, born 21-Sep-1826 Jacob's father was named Peter and his mother was Margaret. The source of my information is from work my grandfather did about 50-60 years ago. While he was smart and a hard worker, he was not trained as a researcher or genealogist, and there was no Internet for training! Therefore, he did not document all of his sources. He is dead and has been since before I got interested in genealogy, so I can't him questions. My father (his son) tells me that most of the info came from family members, cemetary trips, and from people he identified as related to him through a fairly extensive letter-writing campaign. With regard to Peter and Margaret being Jacob's parents, which was "news" to Celia, all I have is my grandfather's explicit notes on this point. While I have found a few spelling errors and "holes" in my grandfather's information, to date I have found no errors -- he did not write it down unless he had some evidence that it was true. I look forward to hearing from cousins on the list. Doug Arbuckle

KATHY I FOR GOT SENT HER A E-MAIL ON1/17/00. jUST LOOKED AT MY LOG & THERE IT WAS. I SESNT SO MY E-MAILS I FOR GET WHO I THEM THEM TO .I ALL WAY MARK ON THE INFO THAT I SENT IT & THE DATE. VAUGHN

I asked Celia to forward an old post she forwarded to me. "DAVIS from Cumberland, MD to Harrison CO., WVA Posted by: Judy Stubblefield, Sept, 06, 1997 http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum,/pageload.cgi?Agner::davis::35html Am searching for info. on Isaac David of Cumberland MD.,wife Nacy. One of their sons, Neri servied in Civil War and married Sedon. P. Agner. They moved to Harrison Co. WVA after the War. SEveral of their daughters married McClung brothers." This is our line,Vaughn I've tried to get her e-mail address and contacted her jsstubble@erols.com, but think this is wrong. How could we find her? Kathy, Cincinnati, OH.

To: Evelyn Watso Great info. What is your web pages's address,please?

----- Original Message ----- From: Evelyn E. Watson <evelynw@mindspring.com> > What ship did Johannes Agender travel on from Switzerland? IThe year he came > to the U.S. could provide some hint of why he might have left Europe. Is > there any information about the name of his wife? Did this question ever get answered? If not: he and his wife Margarita and six children arrived 21 Sep 1731 on the ship Britannia. The ship sailed from Rotterdam to Cowes then to Philadelphia. If you go to this URL, about half way down you will see a listing for them under the spelling EIGENTER (near the top of the page is a listing for Johannes only under the spelling Egender): http://www.rootsweb.com/~GENHOME/imm3e.htm They are also listed in the book PENNSYLVANIA GERMAN PIONEERS by Strauassburger, volume I page 47, 49, 50, 52, 53 (under spellings Eigenter and Ageder). This book can be found at almost any genealogical society or large library. Some places also carry Volume II, which contains copies of the signatures of when they signed in at port. Johannes signatures can be found on page 38 and 41 of this book. These are the ones I scanned and put on my webpage, along with the one from his Power of Attorney before he died.

In a message dated 1/18/00 8:04:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, hartmann@bright.net writes: << http://www.rootsweb.com/~GENHOME/imm3e.htm >> Thanks Celia for this info Vaughn

Patsy and I were on genforum today working. We came across, in the Smith forum, where people were very upset over a person posting to sell supposedly "original" old old newspaper articles, Civil War letters, etc etc. for big bucks. We're talking $450.00 for 2 Civil War letters. The people are bombarding her with emails and some are contacting genforum to let them know of this person. I clicked on her name, "Joy", to see what her email address was. And along with her email address was an alphabetical listings of other postings she has done. By the time I got through the letters A & B, I had counted 33 postings, so you can imagine how many she's done by the time she gets to Z. So please be aware of this. My concern is that some new genealogist will be taken in by her or him. Hard telling if "Joy" is really her/his name. She says not to post back to genforum to buy these "originals" but to email her directly. BEWARE. PROCEED WITH CAUTION

Hello folks, I got a most welcome email today on the Cecil County line, in response to old query I left somewhere. I have invited the gentlemen to our list, so I will refrain from telling you the whole story in case he joins us! I can tell you it concerns one of the earliest Cecil County marriages, and who his parents are! And the names of the parents sound like a Mathias Egner line! :o) I didn't see any descendent info that matched our known data though. :o( But hey, we may be one step closer to proving the line did come from Mathias! All that remains then are fitting the many puzzle pieces together--gathering all the wills, administrations, and deeds may help fit those unconnected lines together. Happy Day everyone! ---Celia :o)

Kathy, Rockbridge County encompasses Lexington and Buena Vista, VA. It is about 50 miles or so from the WVA line. If you have a roadmap look on interstate 81 about halfway between Roanoke and Staunton, VA. The local genealogy group is VERY active here and there is much info on the rootsweb/gebweb local sites, including a complete cemetery listing of ALL the cemeteries anyone could find, including small family plots, etc. Greer STene ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Throwing the McClungs into the equation sounds a lot like they ended up in Rockbridge Co. VA., but I can't help you more than that. Greer Stene ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Celia, Ritch, & Beth" <hartmann@bright.net> Reply-To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [EGNER] Re: Dona Davis Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:19:03 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: <NSchear@aol.com> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:24 PM Subject: [EGNER] "Fannie/Harrison CO.WVA.Egner > Listed in the family recollection is that Fannie's sister Liza(Prob. > Elizabeth) had boy Doris and a girl Grace.(nickname?)Did you have that? > Another sister Dona(short for Sordonia?) m. John Davis and had a daughter > Nora, who married a McClury and another daughter Denise married to a Fittro. Kathy, For some reason Dona and Davis clicked in my head, so I went "in search of" I knew I had seen something on the internet once upon a time (last millennium!); I just had to find it again. I finally found it! Here it is: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/pageload.cgi?Agner::davis::35.ht ml (clicking on the URL won't work, but if you had the ml that got cut off it will then) Here's is the query from that URL: <quote> DAVIS from Cumberland, MD to Harrison County, WV Posted by: Judy Stubblefield Date: September 06, 1997 at 11:04:27 Am searching for information on Isaac Davis (1800's) of Cumberland,MD. Wife, Nancy's maiden name? One of their sons, Neri, served in the Civil War and married Sedona P. Agner. They moved to Harrison County, WV after the war. Several of their daughters married McClung brothers. <end quote> If you goto the URL you can post a response or get Judy Stubblefield's email addy to write her directly. Good luck! --Celia :o) ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

hello follow cuz's.... i agree with celia2 what she said about celia1.. with out her hard work over this past year we would not have the this mailing list or the one on gen-forum...You all may not no this but she is the one who figured out that there were two seperate egnor/agnor families in state of Pa.. Celia is very good at what she does in gathering up the information and sorting it all out too where it makes sense to everyone on the list... But most of all her partners<eg PA & cs> in crime say Thank You cuz for the good work.... Keep it up and we will find that piece of paper this year on archibald egnor.... later Cuz :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

I also agree with Celia Lehmann that Celia Hartmann does an excellent job of keeping us "organized" and tries to help everyone find their line in this world of Agners/Egnors.....With having a little one at home and another on the way, we know she's not setting twiddling her thumbs, with nothing to do but try to get all of us untangled. So my hats' off to CELIA........Great job... Carol "CELIA A. LEHMANN" wrote: > I would just like to say how much I appreciate all the work Celia Hartmann > does to make this list possible. This is something she does because she > wants to & we that benefit from it receive these benefits as a gift from > her. I will use the information that come from the members of the list with > gratitude & hope to contribute in anyway I can. I guess if any of us don't > like so many small messages we can just unsubscribe. Thanks again Celia for > all your work. > > The other cuz with that name, > Celia Lehmann

----- Original Message ----- From: <NSchear@aol.com> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:24 PM Subject: [EGNER] "Fannie/Harrison CO.WVA.Egner > Listed in the family recollection is that Fannie's sister Liza(Prob. > Elizabeth) had boy Doris and a girl Grace.(nickname?)Did you have that? > Another sister Dona(short for Sordonia?) m. John Davis and had a daughter > Nora, who married a McClury and another daughter Denise married to a Fittro. Kathy, For some reason Dona and Davis clicked in my head, so I went "in search of" I knew I had seen something on the internet once upon a time (last millennium!); I just had to find it again. I finally found it! Here it is: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/pageload.cgi?Agner::davis::35.ht ml (clicking on the URL won't work, but if you had the ml that got cut off it will then) Here's is the query from that URL: <quote> DAVIS from Cumberland, MD to Harrison County, WV Posted by: Judy Stubblefield Date: September 06, 1997 at 11:04:27 Am searching for information on Isaac Davis (1800's) of Cumberland,MD. Wife, Nancy's maiden name? One of their sons, Neri, served in the Civil War and married Sedona P. Agner. They moved to Harrison County, WV after the war. Several of their daughters married McClung brothers. <end quote> If you goto the URL you can post a response or get Judy Stubblefield's email addy to write her directly. Good luck! --Celia :o)

In case Little researchers have not found this site, here is someone who may be resourceful on the Little data: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/i/t/Garry-D-Little/index.html Though I didn't see anything that helped figure out Christina and Phillipina's parents. --Celia :o)

Cuz Celia Lehmann, You're right! Too many of us take advantage of the information Celia sends out, her adminstration of the list, and the sharing of her good thoughts for granted. We all owe a special thank you to Cousin Celia! Thanks for calling our attention to Celia's good works. Jean (one of the Cecil County Egners) -----Original Message----- From: CELIA A. LEHMANN [mailto:lehmann@ionet.net] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 10:11 PM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [EGNER] Mail list I would just like to say how much I appreciate all the work Celia Hartmann does to make this list possible. This is something she does because she wants to & we that benefit from it receive these benefits as a gift from her. I will use the information that come from the members of the list with gratitude & hope to contribute in anyway I can. I guess if any of us don't like so many small messages we can just unsubscribe. Thanks again Celia for all your work. The other cuz with that name, Celia Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: Betty Brown [mailto:blbrown@highpoint.net] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 7:44 PM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [EGNER] Mail list Is there any way your list can be put into a digest form? I personally do not like receiving so many small messages each day, when they could be condensed into one message a day. Thanks BL Brown ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: 12.8 million individuals and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

----- Original Message ----- > What state is Rockbridge County in?Thanks. Kathy The Commonwealth of Virginia. Rockbridge County is close to West Virginia. If you've ever been to the Natural Bridge you've been in Rockbridge County. (Oh how I wish I had been doing this genealogy when I visited the Bridge about 10 years ago!).