Archibald researchers: Ever since Dory found that Jonathan Egnor on the school tuition receipts, the name Jonathan as bothered me. Today, I (finally!) figured out why. Back when the clan was in Maryland, the first time John Jr. was enumerated in the census (1800) he was listed as Jonathan Jr. Igender, John MD WASHINGTON CO. 134 1800 10201-0110100 Igender, Jonathan, Jr. MD WASHINGTON CO. 134 1800 10010-2001000 Igender, Susannah MD WASHINGTON CO. 134 1800 40100-2000000 Still can't explain why John Jr. who had already had a son John III "Sly John" would name another son named Jonathan who may have changed his name to Archibald. (except for the theory that Arch was really a son of John Jr.'s third wife from her first marriage).......but of course there was that true story in Rootsweb's Review recently about the family that had two sons, one named Robert and one named Bob! I guess anything goes! Thanks for listening to my ramblings. ---Celia :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Celia L. Hartmann Gen_Searchin@yahoo.com or hartmann@bright.net HELP ROOTSWEB HELP YOU: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Got this through the PML Service. Please note this is a two part message that I have cut and paste the more pertinent parts. There are a few references to Mary Agner Smathers and to Catherine Rough Agner's parents. ---Celia :o) Source: SMOTHERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] Henry and John SMITHER/SMATHERS/etc. Descendants of William SMITHER and Anna Catharina ______? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - 1-William SMITHER (abt 1736-1823) sp: Anna Catharina _____? (-) 2-Catharina Barbara SMITHER (2 May 1764-) sp: _____? MILLER (-) 2-Elizabetha (Betsy) SMITHER (23 Nov 1770-) sp: _____? CRAIZLO (-) sp: William GRUNKLEN (-) 2-Johann Jacob SMITHER (7 Feb 1772-1815/16) sp: Katherine DEW (-) 2-Conrad SMITHER (9 Feb 1774-bef 1816) 2-Henry SMITHER (30 Oct 1775-14 Jun 1856)<<<<< 2-Mary Polly (Molly) SMITHER (abt 1779-) sp: John HARTMAN (-) 2-Susannah SMITHER (bet 1763 and 1774-Aug 1815) sp: John ROUGH (Sep 1763-) 2-Eve SMITHER (1780-) sp: John BASENGER (-) 2-Johannes (John) SMETTERS (17 Dec 1781-1825) sp: Mary AGNER (1776-28 Nov 1868) 3-Eisig (Isaac) SMATHERS (7 Feb 1804-23 Oct 1835) 3-Yorg (George) SMATHERS (9 Sep 1807-24 Jun 1894) 3-Jesse SMATHERS (19 Dec 1811-20 Feb 1879) 3-Levi SMATHERS (9 Sep 1817-WFT Est. 1787-1899) 3-Charlie (Charley) SMATHERS (21 Jul 1819-8 Dec 1906) 2-Margaret (Peggy) SMITHER (1786-) 2-Christina SMITHER (abt 1790-) sp: Jacob LENTZ (-) sp: Margaret LENTZ (-) 2-Teny Lentz SMITHER (aft 1809-) Mitzi Smetters <msmetters@ncweb.com> Visit our CyberHome at <www.ncweb.com/users/msmetters> Researching: SMETTERS (Smothers, Smethers, Smither, etc.), FRAMPTON, COMPTON, SHONKWILER, SATINOVER, TOVROG ========================================== > >Betty Ralph <bralph@HiWAAY.net> sent me some very interesting items about >Henry and John, sons of William SMITHER (b. abt 1736 in Pennsylvania) and >Anna Catharina). The material is from the Dec 1997 "Journal of the >Genealogical Society of Rowan County, North Carolina which was included the >stamped Smither Archives, 9510 Woodley Ave., Silver Spring, MD 20910: > >page 159: > >"In Memory - Henry SMITHER (alias Smathers), who was the Senior Elder of >the >WNC branches of the Smathers family and who was known as the Sage of >Balsam, >died on June 14, 1856 at his Summit Home astride the Haywood and Jackson >County line. He was the second son of WILLIAM SMITHER II (1736-1823) who >migrated in 1774 from Low Hill Township, Northampton County, Penn., to >Rowan >County, N.C. where Henry was born the following year (1775). He was the >grandson of William SMITHER I, a person of British origin, who died in >Albany Township, Berks County, Penn., in 1760 leaving a Will naming his 7 >sons and 3 daughters. Near the end of the War of 1812, Henry and his >younger brother, John (wife Mary AGNER), migrated to Haywood County (which >then included Jackson). There they dropped their British surname (Smither) >and adopted the alias surname Smathers. Early Jackson County kin included >names: Fullbright, Snyder and Liner." > >Also on page 159 was the mention that Mary Hartman, Eva Barringer, Susanah >Rough, and Elizabeth Craiglow died during the 1807 Rowan Co., North >Carolina >death plague leaving a total of 22 children. They were the married >daughters of William Smither of Rowan county and sisters of the two Smither >brothers (John and Henry) who settled in Haywood Co. > >Page 160 has a newspaper clipping about Henry Smathers from "The >Mountaineer, Waynesville, N.C." (no date) saying about the same things. It >mentions ; that Henry moved to Lincoln County in 1809, that in 1814 he >became associated with the Fullbrights who were dealers in Haywood County >lands and encouraged his brother John and others from Rowan County to go to >Haywood where good land was becoming vacant and available at good prices; >and that his brother John who died 1825 was married Mary Agner. > >_____________________________________________ >Betty also sent me a list of William SMITHER and Anna Catharina's children. >It is similar to the one sent to me a while back by Steve SMOTHERS but I do >not know if the info came from the same sources: > >Descendants of William SMITHER >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >--- >1-William SMITHER (abt 1736-1823) >1st wife: Anna Catharina _____? (-) > 2-Catharina Barbara SMITHER (2 May 1764-) > 2-Elizabetha (Betsy) SMITHER (23 Nov 1770-) > 2-Johann Jacob SMITHER (7 Feb 1772-1815/16) > 2-John SMETTERS (1773) <<<<<<<<<< > 2-Conrad SMITHER (9 Feb 1774-bef 1816) > 2-Henry SMITHER (30 Oct 1775-14 Jun 1856) > 2-Mary Polly (Molly) SMITHER (abt 1779-) > 2-Susannah SMITHER (bet 1763 and 1774-Aug 1815) > 2-Eve SMITHER (1780-) > 2-Margaret (Peggy) SMITHER (1786-) > 2-Christina SMITHER (abt 1790-) >2nd wife: Margaret LENTZ (-) (2nd wife of William SMITHERS > 2-Teny Lentz SMITHER (aft 1809-) > > >Note that this list has conflicts with the info in from the "Journal of the >Genealogical Society of Rowan County, North Carolina" cited above in regard >to Henry being the SECOND son of WILLIAM SMITHER . . . and his YOUNGER >brother, John (who married Mary AGNER). According to the descendancy charts >I have from Steve SMOTHERS and Betty RALPH, Henry is the THIRD son and John >is OLDER. > >Now, if instead of the17 DEC 1773 date, we use John's birth date of 17 >Dec >1781 as given by Sadie Smathers Patton in her book "Smathers from Yadkin >Valley to Pigeon River: Smathers and Agner families" (LDS CALL NUMBER: >US/CAN FILM AREA 145459 Item #4-published in 1954 in North Carolina) it >would work out OK--John would be born after Henry and thus be younger and >make Henry the second son. > >Patton's book shows that John was sometimes called Johannes. This could >mean >that Johann and John actually are the same person, but I doubt it if the >info provided from the magazine/journal is correct. Betty also has a wife >for Johann Jacob SMITHER (7 Feb 1772-1815/16): Katherine DEW whose name was >given to her by another researcher. With different birth dates, wives, and >death dates, it seems that two different men are involved. > >Perhaps the family used the German custom of sometimes given the same first >name to children, and then calling them by their middle name. This happened >in the earlier generation with George Nicholas (who was know as George) and >his younger brother George Jacob (who was know as Jacob). Since there are >wives' names for both Johan and John, they must be two different men. Note >that Johan has the middle name of Jacob, which I have not found associated >with the man called John. (I suspect that somewhere along the way somebody >transcribed Johan's date of 07/02/1772 as 17/12/1773 but accidentally >increasing some of the digits by +1 and then someone gave the date to John >since it did not fit Johan and that they did not have the date of John's >birth that Patton provided in her book. > >If you have not seen Patton's book, it has a lot a interesting info, >pictures, and insights into the family of John SMATHERS and Mary ANGER. It >shows pages from their Bible (everything written in German) with his name >as >Johannes SMETTERS. She only refers to them as SMATHERS coming from SMETTER >(or SMETTERS), never as SMITHER. The articles provided by Betty Ralph >refers to the Henry and John's line as from England. However Patton's book >asserts they were Germans who were originally from the Palatine area, who >probably migrated to England before coming to America. Since the family was >VERY German in all that they did in America (where they lived, who them >married, the language they used), it seems that their German background was >well established no matter where they originated. I have found no records >so far showing them as coming on any ship from England or Germany -- I >don't >know if we will ever know the place of origin for sure. >I hope to hear from some of your regarding any additional info, insights, >or >ideas regarding this connection with the North Carolina branch of the >family. > >Mitzi Smetters ><msmetters@ncweb.com> >Visit our CyberHome at ><www.ncweb.com/users/msmetters> > >Researching: SMETTERS (Smothers, Smethers, Smither, etc.), FRAMPTON, >COMPTON, SHONKWILER, SATINOVER, TOVROG > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Egner <pegner@mindspring.com> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 12:34 AM Subject: [EGNER] EGNER:Catherine Rough line > link to > Catherine Rough (Peter's wife) at WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bralph &id > =I1984 Interesting to know that Catherine's mother was a Smathers. I've been holding onto an email I got through the PML Service about the Smathers (Smithers, Smitters, Smothers, Smetters, etc. line)......will send it out next to the list.

Dear Listers: I just got word about the price increase for records at NARA. If you've ever thought about ordering your ancestors' military or pension papers, now would be the time to do it. I can't believe the increase! I've been thinking about ordering some, but haven't really had the extra money--but I think I'll do it now, as there's no way I'm paying the increased fees! Here's the scoop: The National Archives will be increasing the price of Military Service Records from $10 to $17.50 Pension Records (Rev. War, Civil War, etc.) from $10 to $40 Effective July 1, 2000 ---Celia Hartmann :o)

Margie and Celia, You may already know and have this information but found the link to Catherine Rough (Peter's wife) at WorldConnect http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bralph&id =I1984 This gives you some of her line and below. Cousin Phillip "Dean" Egner 40 Fairview Chase Covington, GA 30016 770-385-0893

Hi Ann, My name is Dean Egner. Sorry I didn't respond sooner but work keeps me busy to much. Margie Hartman, Celia Lehmann, Claude Nimmo and I are cousins where our branch traveled from North Carolina to Western KY and beyond. Here's my line: ME: Phillip Dean Egner m Brenda Kay Williams Jun 22 1970 Ewing Wilton Egner married Ruth Virgina Burnett Apr 16 1940 Charles Edgar Egner m Sarah Elizabeth Harper Mar 31 1903 Daniel Boone Egner m Sarah Almeta Payne Aug 22 1873 Levi Elroy Egner m Martha Edwards Aug 31 1848 Peter Eggner m Elizabeth Catherine Rough Oct 21 1809 (Peter and Elizabeth's son was Nathan Egner who I thing is Margie's line) I hope this gives you an idea where I fit and maybe some help to you if your along these lines. Dean Egner -----Original Message----- From: Ann Nobles [mailto:ann@noblescorp.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:50 PM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [EGNER] New List Member Margie, If you need some lookups or other research on North Carolina, let me know as our county library has a fairly good North Carolina Room for a county of 50,000. I will be glad to check the census indices, etc. as time permits. Ann Hartman wrote: > > Ann, I am Margie Fenley Hartman. Very close cousins to Celia2, Nimmo, and > Phillip Dean. > > My gggggrans were Peter and Catherine Elizabeth Rough Egner/Agner of Rowan > County, North Caroline (married 10/21/1809). Their son, Nathanial, born ca > 1812 in N.C, was my ggggrandfather. In around 1818-1822 the Agner/Egner > family moved to Calloway County (or general vacinity) Kentucky. Nathanial > married Nancy Carpenter (daughter of Owen and Martha Carpenter) on Feb. 2, > 1831 in Calloway County, Ky. In 1834, Nathanial and Nancy, had a daughter > named Elizabeth (my gggrandmother). Elizabeth Ann Egner married Richard S. > Evans (B. North Carolina) on 24 Feb. 1849. They moved around in several > states and ended up in Van Buren County Arkansas. On May 5, 1866, my > ggrandmother (Elizabeth's) last child, Exie Sophronia, was born. > Sophronia's youngest daughter, Magnolia Evans Birmingham, was my mother. I > want to compliment you for caring for your mother. My mother, had she > lived, would have been 100 this year. I too cared for my mother in her last > years. How I wish I had her here to care for her now. Mom has been gone 18 > years and I still tear up when I mention her name. What a wonderful woman. > I like to think she must have inherited some of that pioneer spirit from > "our" Egner/Agners. Welcome Aboard!..margie > > >Hello, > > > >As a new list member Celia suggested I introduce myself. > > > >I am Ann Nobles, a direct descendant of Andrew Jackson Grubb and > >Elizabeth Egner ("Jack" and "Lizzie"). Ann Nobles(4), Haydon W. > >Grubb(3), Samuel Jackson Grubb(2), Elizabeth Egner(1). > > > >My mission is to properly document my direct lineage as well as general > >family history. I will share data and sources with others who do the > >same. > > > >My research includes my own lineage and that of my husband. I also do > >original records research for unrelated persons with roots in western > >Columbus County, North Carolina. > > > >My surnames: GRUBB, EGNER, MCAMIS, OWEN(S), COLE, DESKINS > >My husband's: NOBLES, EDWARDS, WILSON, DEAVER (Columbus, Bladen, Robeson > >counties in North Carolina, and adjacent counties of Horry and Marion, > >SC. > > > >I look forward to meeting and working with the list members. Sometimes I > >may be slow to respond because I care for my elderly mother. > > > >Ann Nobles > > > > > >==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: > >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > > > >============================== > >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Margie, If you need some lookups or other research on North Carolina, let me know as our county library has a fairly good North Carolina Room for a county of 50,000. I will be glad to check the census indices, etc. as time permits. Ann Hartman wrote: > > Ann, I am Margie Fenley Hartman. Very close cousins to Celia2, Nimmo, and > Phillip Dean. > > My gggggrans were Peter and Catherine Elizabeth Rough Egner/Agner of Rowan > County, North Caroline (married 10/21/1809). Their son, Nathanial, born ca > 1812 in N.C, was my ggggrandfather. In around 1818-1822 the Agner/Egner > family moved to Calloway County (or general vacinity) Kentucky. Nathanial > married Nancy Carpenter (daughter of Owen and Martha Carpenter) on Feb. 2, > 1831 in Calloway County, Ky. In 1834, Nathanial and Nancy, had a daughter > named Elizabeth (my gggrandmother). Elizabeth Ann Egner married Richard S. > Evans (B. North Carolina) on 24 Feb. 1849. They moved around in several > states and ended up in Van Buren County Arkansas. On May 5, 1866, my > ggrandmother (Elizabeth's) last child, Exie Sophronia, was born. > Sophronia's youngest daughter, Magnolia Evans Birmingham, was my mother. I > want to compliment you for caring for your mother. My mother, had she > lived, would have been 100 this year. I too cared for my mother in her last > years. How I wish I had her here to care for her now. Mom has been gone 18 > years and I still tear up when I mention her name. What a wonderful woman. > I like to think she must have inherited some of that pioneer spirit from > "our" Egner/Agners. Welcome Aboard!..margie > > >Hello, > > > >As a new list member Celia suggested I introduce myself. > > > >I am Ann Nobles, a direct descendant of Andrew Jackson Grubb and > >Elizabeth Egner ("Jack" and "Lizzie"). Ann Nobles(4), Haydon W. > >Grubb(3), Samuel Jackson Grubb(2), Elizabeth Egner(1). > > > >My mission is to properly document my direct lineage as well as general > >family history. I will share data and sources with others who do the > >same. > > > >My research includes my own lineage and that of my husband. I also do > >original records research for unrelated persons with roots in western > >Columbus County, North Carolina. > > > >My surnames: GRUBB, EGNER, MCAMIS, OWEN(S), COLE, DESKINS > >My husband's: NOBLES, EDWARDS, WILSON, DEAVER (Columbus, Bladen, Robeson > >counties in North Carolina, and adjacent counties of Horry and Marion, > >SC. > > > >I look forward to meeting and working with the list members. Sometimes I > >may be slow to respond because I care for my elderly mother. > > > >Ann Nobles > > > > > >==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: > >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > > > >============================== > >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hi Dean, Got a chance to look for this. Here is what I found. Pay dirt! Family Tree Maker's Family Archives Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 [#229] Broderbund Sec. II, Ch. 14, Calloway, KY Marriages From 1812-1847 Alcock, Harris Egnew, Nancy 18 March 1845 Celia #2 -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Egner [mailto:pegner@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 7:04 PM To: Nimmo; marken@thegrid.net; hartmann@bright.net; CELIA A. LEHMANN Subject: EGNER:Calloway Co KY: Nathan Egner's Wife Nancy Carpenter Does anyone know if the wife of Nathan Agner (Son of Peter Agner, born abt 1811), Nancy Carpenter (marr Feb 9 1831 Calloway Co KY), is the same Nancy who married a Harris Alcock March 12, 1845 (Calloway Co KY)? I can't find any records on Nathan past the 1841 Calloway Co Tax list and was wondering if he died between 1841 and 1845. It shows Nancy a widow with the name of Egner, but then I look at the 1850 Graves Co Census has Nancy married to Harris Allcock and she is 36 years old. This fits more in line with information from someone (another undocumented source, I hate those early days of mine.)about a Nancy Houser born ca 1814 (Dau of John Houser and Mary Kerrick. But who was Nancy married too previously that was an Egner/Egnew? I have been going through all my books I have and bring my new software up to date on the sources. I am just focusing on the Egner/Agner's trying not to straying to far away. Won't get much done next week unfortunately because of 12 hour work days. Another 6-8 weeks and I should be able to do much more after I change jobs. You all have helped energized my interests. By the way I have another cousin who has been going gang busters these last couple years. She has done a lot on Burnetts and he's the link address if anyone is interested. It has a lot of information from Charles Egner on down to me. It of course doesn't list any current vitals for privacy concerns. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=est3739-2 Cousin Phillip "Dean" Egner 40 Fairview Chase Covington, GA 30016 770-385-0893

I found this neat site on 1912 & greater vitals. http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ Cousin Phillip "Dean" Egner 40 Fairview Chase Covington, GA 30016 770-385-0893

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The 1890, not 1880, fed. census is missing.

Here's another I got through the PML service. Anyone know anything about the Sam Agner b. 1868 SC who married Nannie Cosey? I have NOT written her to see if she would be interested in pursuing the Agner line more. If anyone has more information, please let me know or email Billie rectly. --Celia Hartmann :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee and Billie Jones <tjones@camden.net> > Source: COSSEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Cosey of Edgefield Co, SC > > > I am researching the Coursey line of Edgefield Co, SC where my grandfather > Odell Coursey was born. The name is found there as early as 1780's land > grants. I have not tied my lines all together at this time, but have found > that one of the families used the name Cosey. I do not know if this family > attaches to > mine. Much of this information was sent to me by Steve Harper a couple of > years ago. > At that time his email address was as follows: sharper@airmail.net > > > > They are as follows: > > 1- John C. Coursey (b. 1824 SC, m. Ann E. Quattlebaum (b. 5/24/1830 SC, d. > 12/9/1899)[d/o Ann A. (Nancy) Grisson & Peter Quattlebaum])[1850] Decatur > City Cem MS > 2- John Henry Cosey [Coursey] (b. 5/16/1842 SC, d. 9/16/1921)[1850] > L/w Mary W. & J. B. Williams [1860](m.12/5/1867 Hester E. Elizabeth Mathis > (b. 8/12/1848 SC, d. 3/18/1908, d/o Jane Mathis & Thomas > Mathis][1870][1880][1900] Edge Marr Mc > 3- Mary (Mamie) Cosey (b. 1866 SC)[1870][1880] > 3- Nancy (Nannie) Cosey (b. 2/26/1870 SC, d. 1/14/1945)[1870][1880](m. Sam > Agner (b. 1868 SC)[s/o ]) Red Oak Gr Bapt Edgefield SCMcC > 4- John E. Agner (b. 3/18/1891 SC, m. Roberda (b. > 4/18/1901 SC, d. 9/11/1929), d. 4/11/1974) Red Oak Gr Bapt Edgefield SC > 4-Annie E. Agner (b. 12/7/1895 SC, d. 4/19/1898) > Red Oak Gr Bapt Edgefield SC > 4- Wiley C. Agner (b. 9/12/1906 SC, d. 8/4/1981) > Red Oak Gr Bapt Edgefield SC > 3- Thomas Wiley Cosey (b. 4/10/1872 SC, d. 9/3/1967)[1880] > McC > 3- Kate Cosey (b. 1875 SC, d. 3/27/1911)[1880] Red Hill Bapt > Edgefield SC McC > 3- Johnretta H. (Johnnie) Cosey (b. 5/1879 SC, d. > 1946)[1880][1900](m. Kemp [Fam ?]) Red Hill Bapt Edgefield SC McC > 3- Phenice Jefferson (Phenia) Cosey (b. 5/4/1884 SC, d. > 2/7/1968)[1900](m. Amy Everlena Brown (b. 3/9/1900 SC, d. 1/18/1872)[d/o > Rebecca Beasley & James (Jim) Brown]) McCormick Cem McCormick SC McC > 4- Fuller Leagett Cosey (b. 8/25/1919 SC, d. > 10/4/1920) McCormick Cem McCormick SC McC > 4- Kathleen Cosey (b. 3/18/1921 SC, m. Clyde Lee > Price (b. 10/18/1918 SC)[s/o Corrie Calhoun Patterson & George Lee Price], > 8/10/1945) McC > 4- Connie May Cosey (b. 11/18/1922 SC, d. 7/5/1925) > McCormick Cem McCormick SC McC > 4- James Thomas Cosey (b. 11/12/1924 SC, d. 6/22/1925) > McCormick Cem SC McC m. Ruth Vivian Parkman (b. 5/29/1922 SC)[d/o Ruth Lee > Cook & Earl Eugene Parkman], 6/11/1939) > 4- Polly Bernice Cosey (b. 1/18/1932 SC, m.1. Joseph > Herbert White, Jr. (b. 7/9/1926 SC, d. 1/17/1950)[s/o Georgia Crawford & > Joseph Herbert White] McCormick Cem, 2. Melvin Andrew > 4- Julia Claudia Cosey (b. 9/29/1936 SC, d. 5/17/1938) > McCormick Cem McCormick SC McC > 3- Sallie Talulah (Lula) Cosey (b. 10/5/1888 SC, d. > 6/24/1960)[1900](m. Floyd) McC > 3- Fleming Mathis Cosey (b. 7/27/1891 SC, d. > 10/1/1957)[1900](m. Polly Brown (b. 6/24/1892 SC, d. 4/3/1947)[d/o Rebecca > Beasley & James (Jim) Brown]) McC > Ann E. Coursey (b. 1849 SC)[1850] > 2- Emma S. Coursey (b. 1852 MS, m. William C. Harper) > 3- Alma Inex Harper (b. 12/5/1876 MS) > 3- Clarence I. Harper (b. 9/11/1877 MS, d. 7/31/1878) > 3- Ella May Harper (b. 9/6/1879 MS, m. Leander Franklin Smith, > d. 1/4/1965) > 3- Martha Elizabeth (Betty) Harper (b. 5/9/1883 MS, m. Ira > McMullan, d. 6/2/1979) > 3- Margaret F. (Maggie) Harper (b. 10/20/1885 MS, m. Bill > Russell [Fam ?], d. 5/2/1919) > 3- John Henry Harper (b. 11/16/1887 MS, m. Nettie Weaver, d. > 1/3/1976) > 3- W. W. (Willie) Harper (b. 3/16/1890 MS, d. 10/9/1918 WW I) France > 3- Luther Shannon Harper [1892] > 3- Willie Winelle Harper [1894](m. J. L. Wise) > 2- Mattie Coursey (b. 1/21/1854 MS, m. R. L. McMullan, Sr., d. > 5/1/1932) > 2- Carrie Elizabeth Coursey (b. 8/17/1856 MS, m. Joseph Fletcher > Harper) > 2-Benjamin F. Coursey (b. 11/14/1861 MS) > 2-Henry Coursey (b. 1865 MS) > 2-Jesse Coursey (b. 1869 MS) > > PS: Some of the appreviateions at the end of the names are sources. The > dates in [ ] indicate information from a census. > > This is all that I know of this family. > > Billie Jones >

I now have the book Capt. Daniel Little Esq. and His Contemporaries 1753-1789 by Pauline Shook. I have enjoyed what I have read. I showed it off at The SC Archives, one employee wants to borrow it, one of his ancestors is mentioned quite often. I also took it to Kershaw County and showed it off at the county archives. I was very proud of its reception. I have not copied all of the microfiche at The Family Research Center yet. There is a lot of duplication, which I would not want to copy and they keep the microfiche at the center since I have paid for it. I had already proved my lineage to Daniel Jr. as far as the Revolutionary War. Somebody asked about that the othe day. Look in the DAR Patriot Index-Centennail Edition, page 1814 Henry and John also, Peter and Silas Shinn are listed on page 1815. I believe John was killed in the first battle of Camden on Aug. 16 1780. Check Colonial Soldiers of the South 1732-1774, Daniel Jr. is listed 0n page 856. Celia, thanks for the guide in the right direction. I could not have found the book or the microfiche even if I do live right in the middle of it all. I had the paper trail but not the story. I haven't found anybody around here that had seen the book and their relatives are in it. Thanks again! Mary In Columbia SC

Source: GC- Botetourt Co. Va Obituaries URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/BotetourtObits?read=27 Subject: Ruby P Powell Surname: Powell, Wood, Williamson, Minnix, Angor, Witt ------------------------- POWELL, RUBY P. Mrs. Ruby Payne Powell, age 72, went to be with the Lord Wednesday, January 15, 1992. She was a member of Shiloh United Methodist Church, Eagle Rock, Va. and was the widow of Elden H. Powell, Jr. She is survived by one son and daughter-in-law, Marion L. and Elaine T. Powell, Daleville; three daughters and sons-in-law, Betty P. and Harry L. Wood, Jr., Richmond; Phyllis P. and William E. Williamson, Jr., Hampton; Gerrie P. and Robert E. Minnix, Boones Mill; seven grandchildren; two brothers Arnold S Agnor and Weldon D Agnor, a sister Nancy A Witt. Services will be at Shiloh United Methodist Church 11:00 am Friday January 17, 1992 with Rev. Teresa S Smith officiating. Interment will be in the Church Cemetery. John M Oakey Inc., Roanoke is in charge of arrangements. Link: Obits, Wills, Marriage Records, and More URL: <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798>

Source: GC- Botetourt Co. Va Obituaries URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/BotetourtObits?read=32 Subject: Vada Clutter Agnor Surname: Clutter, Agnor ------------------------- AGNOR, Vada Clutter, 70, of Eagle Rock, died Sunday morning, January 24, 1993 in a local hospital. She is survived by her husband, Weldon D. Agnor; one son, Larry Agnor, Yorktown; one brother, Paul Clutter, Eagle Rock; two grandchildren. Funeral services will be Wednesday at 2 p.m. in the Mt. Bethel Church of the Brethren conducted by the Rev. Clyde Carter. Burial will follow in the church cemetery. The family will receive friends at the Eagle Rock Funeral Home, Tuesday from 7 to 9 p.m. Link: Obits, Wills, Marriages and More URL: <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798>

Another find by Dory! This is Octavia Adkins, d/o Susan and one of her husbands, John Adkins. Susan was d/o John Washington and Lucinda (Plumley) Egnor. And John Washington "Wash" was son of Archibald and Lahoma (Massey) Egnor ---Celia :o) Raleigh County Obituary Forum [ Read Responses | Post a New Response | Return to the Index (Use 'Back' if from a search list) ] [ Previous | Next ] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Obit: Octava E. Hooton - 1910-1999 Posted by Karen Monk <Blubrd999@aol.com> on Mon, 07 Jun 1999 Surname: HOOTON, EGNOE, ADKINS Octava E. Hooton Octava Ellen Hooton, 89, of Stickney, died Friday, June 4, 1999, in a Beckley hospital following a long illness. Born May 7, 1910, in Bernie, she was the daughter of the late John and Susan Egnoe Adkins. Mrs. Hooton was a devoted housewife and mother, a charter member of the Assembly of God Church, Sundial and was the last surviving member of her immediate family. She was preceded in death by her husband, Everette E. Hooton Sr.; a daughter, Dorcas McKnight; a sister; and three brothers. Survivors include three daughters, Eloise Atkins of Beckley, Betty George of Kingwood, Texas, and Arbutus Hudnall of Frametown; three sons, James Hooton of Whitesville, Joe Hooton of Smithfield, Va., and Everette E. Hooton Jr. of Hiram, Ohio; 23 grandchildren; and several great-grandchildren. Services will be 1 p.m. Tuesday at the Assembly of God Church, Sundial, with the Rev. J.D. Pettry officiating. Burial will follow in Pineview Cemetery, Orgas. Friends may call 6 to 9 p.m. today at Armstrong Funeral Home, Whitesville, and one hour before the services Tuesday at the church. Arrangements by Armstrong Funeral Home, Whitesville. Register-Herald Online Obit - 7 June 1999

>From Vicky who is a member of the list......... Hi, Some of you may know me some may not generally I am a lurker and Patsy and I get together sometimes anyway, all along I thought Archibald was my great great grandfather well it turns out that MARTIN EGNOR and Lucy WOODRUM are. So I need help in tracing that info. Thanks a lot. Vicky ================= Vicky, dear old mysterious Archibald is still a great grandfather to you. We just always thought your Leora came off of Archibald's son Archibald and now we know she came off Archibald's eldest son John Washington's son Martin. I still need to fix that in my database. Hope this lps. --Celia Hartmann :o)

HI THERE... I MADE A MISTAKE ON MY POST ABOUT THE NULL/MASSEY FAMILIES OF GALLIA CO. OHIO.. ONE OF MY PARTNERS IN CRIME POINTED IT OUT TOO ME.. I HAD FOR ABIGIAL MASSEY PARENTS BEING A JEPTHA MASSEY SR AND LUCY CORN... THIS IS WRONG... HER PARENTS WERE A JEPTHA MASSEY SR AND MARY SOWARDS.... LUCY CORN BORN DEC 20, 1806 IN OHIO MARRIED A JEPTHA MASSEY HE BELONGED TOO ROBERT MASSEY... ROBERT MASSEY WAS ABIGIAL'S BROTHER... PATSY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

HI THERE... HERE IS SOME INFORMATION ON WILLIAM NULL AND HIS WIFE ABIGIAL MASSEY.. **CAME FROM LDS SITE ON THE WEB** THEY WERE MARRIED ON APRIL 8, 1802 IN MONROE CO. W.VA WILLIAM NULL BORN APRIL 24, 1781 IN VA DIED JAN. 21, 1848 IN GALLIA CO. OHIO AND IS BURIED AT THE NULL CEMETERY WATERLOO GALLIA CO. OHIO PARENTS: WILLIAM NULL AND BARBARA ??? ABIGAIL MASSEY BORN 1785, MONREO CO. VA DIED AUG. 26, 1862 IN GALLIA CO. OHIO AND IS BURIED ALONG SIDE HER HUSBAND AT THE NULL CEMETERY.. PARENTS:JEPTHA MASSEY SR AND LUCY CORN THEY HAD THE FOLLOWING CHILDERN ALL BORN IN MONROE CO. W.VA PRIOR TOO THEM MOVING TOO GALLIA CO. OHIO.. 1. DAVID NULL BORN ABT 1810 VA 2. HARIM NULL BORN 1811 VA DIED 1879 GALLIA CO. OHIO 3. GEORGE NULL BORN 1812 VA DIED SEPT 26, 1841 GALLIA CO. OHIO 4. WILLIAM T. NULL BORN APRIL 21, 1813 VA DIED OCT 14, 1878 WALNUT TOWNSHIP GALLIA CO. OHIO BURIED AT FLAG SPRINGS CEMETERY OHIO.. 5. MARY NULL BORN 1814 VA 6. ELIZABETH NULL BORN 1815 7. CAROLINE NULL BORN 1817 8. MATHEW NULL BORN 1818 DIED 1890 GALLIA CO. OHIO 9. JANE NULL BORN 1819 VA 10. CATHERINE NULL BORN 1820 VA 11. HANNAH NULL BORN 1822 VA RAISED THERE KIDS IN MONROE CO. W.VA BEFORE MOVING TOO GALLIA CO. OHIO IN 1823 **THIS CAME FROM THE MONROE WATCHMAN ENTITLED "EARLY HISTORY OF MONROE CO. W.VA MIGRATION TO OHIO VALLEY."** IN THE ABOVE ARTICLE TALKS ABOUT HOW THERE MANY FAMILIES THAT CAME TOO OHIO FROM MONROE CO. W.VA THEY WERE MADDY'S <MASSEY>,NULLS, NEALS, WISEMANS, MCDANIEL, CAOLTERS, SMITHS, CANTERBURYS, SHUMATES, WICKLINES,BOSTIC, BAKERS, COOPERS AND MANY OTHER FAMILIES... THEY ALSO SETTLED IN LAWRENCE CO. OHIO AS WILL...ESPECIALLY THE MASSEY FAMILY... JUST THOUGHT ID PASS THIS INFORMATION ON TOO THE GROUP... SO THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT MAYBE ARCHIBALD AND FAMILY STOPPED BY IN EITHER ONE OF THESE COUNTIES AND VISTED WITH THERE RELATIVES BEFORE RETURNING TOO MONROE CO. W.VA.. BOTH OF THESE COUNTIES ARE NOT FAR FROM HIGHLAND CO. OHIO WHERE ARCHIBALD'S SON JOSIAH WAS BORN IN 1840.. PATSY :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

we lose that alexander and elizabeth erskine after 1860 in monroe co. w.va along with all of there childern....none of them show up on the 1870 census at all...by then all of there childern would have been of age too be married.. all we know for sure is that archibald m. erskine was in the civil war... so did this family move after war and ended up in ohio with other kin folk. we have even search the death records for monroe co.w va.. and cant find them listed either... this family is still a complete mystery as too what happen too them.. maybe we will get lucky soon and find something on them.... with any luck... ***hey celia if you still have access too census for gen-library check and see if you cant find archibald erskine living in ohio in 1870 or 1880..just a suggestion*** patsy :) ps.. **celia id really love too chat with you lady. if yu have a few minutes one day.... just let me know something...** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com