Hello, Here's another I received through the PML service. Martin EGNER--immigrant to Chicago in 1907. ---Celia Hartmann ----- Original Message ----- From: James Egner <jegner@pol.net> > Source: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Gross Scham > > > (From the earlier note from Inge and commentary) > My grandparents were from Gross Scham. My gr-grandfather, Martin > Heckler and wife Elisabeth Kempfer moved to Coal Field Sask. near > Lampman in 1902 from Gross Scham via Quebec. Coming also were > daughters, Elisabeth and Helena, born in Gross Scham. One year the > wheat crop froze and they moved to Michigan and later to Wisconsin. > Other Kempfers, Anton, Johann, and Franz, went to Chicago. My > grandfather, Martin Egner, went straight to Chicago with 4 others > from Gross Scham in 1907. Other families in Gross Scham to which I am > related include Szent, Schock, Utz, and Mischen. Spelling was not > standardized within these families (possibly due to the politics of > the time as well as other factors) and not in the records of the > Heiligen Namen Maria Catholic Church. I know that there are other > list members with knowledge of the Gross Scham area. It is always > good to hear of new information. Jim Egner

Hello, Got this through the PML service. Elizabeth and Nathan AGNER are listed......... --Celia Hartmann > Source: KYGRAVES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KYGRAVES] Graves County - 1840 Census - Heads of Households - Part 11 > > > My friends - > > Today, we are resuming our review of the 1840 Graves County census. In > prior installments, we have worked our way through about one-third of this > series. > > Subscribers of the lists which I host can request the full age enumeration > data on a name from the listing below by sending a message to me with that > request. As always, your assistance in not resending this entire message > back to me with those requests is greatly appreciated. > > Non-subscriber requests will be honored only if time constraints permit. > > Tomorrow, we will move into McCracken County. > > -B > ============================================================ > Graves County - 1840 Census - Heads of Households - Part 11 > > Craunch, John > Ward, Jonathan > Wallace, Isham > Riley, Wm > Faga, WM > > Trout, Wm > Gore, James > Jones, Gabriel > Alcock, Harris > Reid, Noah > > Shamel, Rebeccah > Walker, Samuel > Kinney, Jacob > Tucker, Isaac > Warinor, Wm > > Caylor, David > Lamm, Levi > Caylor, Lewis > Norman, Thomas > Burkhart, Henry > > Woods, Lashley > Ford, Littleberry > Carter, Jack > Carter, Jackson > Graves, Joseph > > Reeves, Reuben > Fox, Daniel > Baker, James J. > Baker, Thomas > Baker, James > > Merrit, David > Whitehead, Benj > Haley, Washington > Fleming, Wm > Fleming, Wm W. > > Davis, James > Hale, Harbeson > Farmer, John > Asher, Betsey > Wallas, Elias > > Cox, Pennil > Riley, Solomon > Donaldson, Humphrey > Agner, Elizabeth > Smith, Wm S. > > Wafford, Wm > Mungal, John > Wafford, Jacob > Agner, Nathan > Cargle, Thomas > > ~to be continued~ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

im glad that someone is looking over the cemeteries in lincoln co. w.va..i ddnt know that arch owned that land where the cemetery was located at cool. but it still make me wonder though why wasnt they buried with all the egnor's in the bigger cemetery that is on samuel's property. me and celia almost bet that samuel got his daddy's homeplace once he passed away. the one with arch and his two wives is in bad shape there stones are about the only ones that havent been torned down by somebody. there is a gate up to cemetery know. we ddnt make it too one with susan carpenter in it.. hope too the next time though. i ddnt realize that someone had put a marker on susan's grave thats good.. patsy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

Actually, my Mother was an Adkins, and my Dad a May, both from Lincoln Co. They are buried in Boone Co., However, other relatives are buried in Lincoln. I live in Delaware, so I have not had a chance to visit the cemetaries in a long time. Speaking of Adkins, maybe we connect somewhere along, the line. Looking forward to hearing from you, Kathi May -----Original Message----- From: patsy adkins <buckwheat2193@yahoo.com> To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [EGNER] Fw: Announcing the GC-Gateway >Hi there >This is known as the Griffith Cemetery Located up >the first dirt road to the left up Valley Fork >Road after leaving Route 3 at Griffithville, Wva >Lincoln Co. >the Egnors,Griffith,Hager,Harmon,Holstein Grass, >Dial and Lawrence are buried in this cemetery. >They have a gate on the road too this cemetery >too keep people out of it or ATV vehicles. Take >your time walking up the hill to this cemetery. >Once you climb where the gate is up too the first >flat section hang a left and walk up that way >for a few minutes and the cemetery is located on >the left hand side of the hill. If you are >looking for dear old Arch and his wives they are >sorta off too themselves. His tombstone is tall >and one of the last big one's too be standing. >with his wives on either side of him. >patsy > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >==== EGNER Mailing List ==== >Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, >Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

Celia, I am sorry for you loss. I've been out of the loop lately, so I apologize but will be in touch soon; again, my thoughts and prayers are with you, Sandra. -----Original Message----- From: Vicky Norwood [SMTP:lilmsreb@netzero.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:29 PM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [EGNER] Todd Egnor 1947 - 2000 Please accept my condolences on your loss. Keep in touch. Vicky ----- Original Message ----- From: Celia, Ritch, & Beth <hartmann@bright.net> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:21 AM Subject: [EGNER] Todd Egnor 1947 - 2000 > Here is an obituary that I am writing specifically for this list. An > official obituary will appear in the Coshocton Tribune (Coshocton County, > Ohio) probably tomorrow, maybe today or Friday. Dory and I--members of > this list--and the rest of our family will miss him much. ---Celia > Hartmann > > ============= > > Todd Junior Egnor, age 52, passed away at his home in Massillon, Ohio on > Sunday evening, April 2, 2000. > > He was born May 30, 1947 in Charlottesville, Virginia, but grew up in > California. He was the first of six children born to Roy Junior and > Cecelia Carolyn (Alexander) Egnor. He was the grandson of Roy Bryant and > Ella (Cooper) Egnor; the great grandson of Josiah Milton and Cora Ann > (Whitten) Egnor; the great-great grandson of Josiah and Martha (Baisden) > Egnor; the great-great-great grandson of Archibald and Lahoma (Massey) > Egnor. > > He was a country music entertainer; he was a talented musician with a > wonderful voice. > > He is survived by his father and step-mother Roy and Judy Egnor; three > sons: Timothy Kirk, James Roy; Michael Todd; three daughters: Melinda > Renee, Michelle Lynn, and Alisha Carol; several grandchildren; one brother, > Larry Ray Egnor; one sister Roberta Lea Frenzi; and one step-sister, Celia > Lynn Hartmann. His mother, Cecelia Carolyn Steward; one brother, Ronald > Hayes; and two infant sisters, Madeline Carol and Cecelia Kay, preceded him > in death. > > Graveside services will be held Friday, April 7, 2000. > > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Please accept my deepest sympathy for your loss. Ann Vicky Norwood wrote: > > Please accept my condolences on your loss. > > Keep in touch. > Vicky > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Celia, Ritch, & Beth <hartmann@bright.net> > To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:21 AM > Subject: [EGNER] Todd Egnor 1947 - 2000 > > > Here is an obituary that I am writing specifically for this list. An > > official obituary will appear in the Coshocton Tribune (Coshocton County, > > Ohio) probably tomorrow, maybe today or Friday. Dory and I--members of > > this list--and the rest of our family will miss him much. ---Celia > > Hartmann > > > > ============= > > > > Todd Junior Egnor, age 52, passed away at his home in Massillon, Ohio on > > Sunday evening, April 2, 2000. > > > > He was born May 30, 1947 in Charlottesville, Virginia, but grew up in > > California. He was the first of six children born to Roy Junior and > > Cecelia Carolyn (Alexander) Egnor. He was the grandson of Roy Bryant and > > Ella (Cooper) Egnor; the great grandson of Josiah Milton and Cora Ann > > (Whitten) Egnor; the great-great grandson of Josiah and Martha (Baisden) > > Egnor; the great-great-great grandson of Archibald and Lahoma (Massey) > > Egnor. > > > > He was a country music entertainer; he was a talented musician with a > > wonderful voice. > > > > He is survived by his father and step-mother Roy and Judy Egnor; three > > sons: Timothy Kirk, James Roy; Michael Todd; three daughters: Melinda > > Renee, Michelle Lynn, and Alisha Carol; several grandchildren; one > brother, > > Larry Ray Egnor; one sister Roberta Lea Frenzi; and one step-sister, > Celia > > Lynn Hartmann. His mother, Cecelia Carolyn Steward; one brother, Ronald > > Hayes; and two infant sisters, Madeline Carol and Cecelia Kay, preceded > him > > in death. > > > > Graveside services will be held Friday, April 7, 2000. > > > > > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > > > ============================== > > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Please accept my condolences on your loss. Keep in touch. Vicky ----- Original Message ----- From: Celia, Ritch, & Beth <hartmann@bright.net> To: <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:21 AM Subject: [EGNER] Todd Egnor 1947 - 2000 > Here is an obituary that I am writing specifically for this list. An > official obituary will appear in the Coshocton Tribune (Coshocton County, > Ohio) probably tomorrow, maybe today or Friday. Dory and I--members of > this list--and the rest of our family will miss him much. ---Celia > Hartmann > > ============= > > Todd Junior Egnor, age 52, passed away at his home in Massillon, Ohio on > Sunday evening, April 2, 2000. > > He was born May 30, 1947 in Charlottesville, Virginia, but grew up in > California. He was the first of six children born to Roy Junior and > Cecelia Carolyn (Alexander) Egnor. He was the grandson of Roy Bryant and > Ella (Cooper) Egnor; the great grandson of Josiah Milton and Cora Ann > (Whitten) Egnor; the great-great grandson of Josiah and Martha (Baisden) > Egnor; the great-great-great grandson of Archibald and Lahoma (Massey) > Egnor. > > He was a country music entertainer; he was a talented musician with a > wonderful voice. > > He is survived by his father and step-mother Roy and Judy Egnor; three > sons: Timothy Kirk, James Roy; Michael Todd; three daughters: Melinda > Renee, Michelle Lynn, and Alisha Carol; several grandchildren; one brother, > Larry Ray Egnor; one sister Roberta Lea Frenzi; and one step-sister, Celia > Lynn Hartmann. His mother, Cecelia Carolyn Steward; one brother, Ronald > Hayes; and two infant sisters, Madeline Carol and Cecelia Kay, preceded him > in death. > > Graveside services will be held Friday, April 7, 2000. > > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

Hi there This is known as the Griffith Cemetery Located up the first dirt road to the left up Valley Fork Road after leaving Route 3 at Griffithville, Wva Lincoln Co. the Egnors,Griffith,Hager,Harmon,Holstein Grass, Dial and Lawrence are buried in this cemetery. They have a gate on the road too this cemetery too keep people out of it or ATV vehicles. Take your time walking up the hill to this cemetery. Once you climb where the gate is up too the first flat section hang a left and walk up that way for a few minutes and the cemetery is located on the left hand side of the hill. If you are looking for dear old Arch and his wives they are sorta off too themselves. His tombstone is tall and one of the last big one's too be standing. with his wives on either side of him. patsy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

Patsy, what was the name of the cemetary ,and the location, I am curious, as I have family buried in Lincoln Co. Thanks, Kathi -----Original Message----- From: patsy adkins <buckwheat2193@yahoo.com> To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [EGNER] Fw: Announcing the GC-Gateway >wow. this will be great and help us out on >something's with this lovely family.. will it >cover the surnames that connection with the >agner- egnor families. like those who married >into the family. >that will be wonderful. > >Just wanted too tell the group that me and Celia >went on adventure about two weeks ago in Lincoln >Co. W.va. We went looking for dear old Arch's >grave and found it along with his two wives on >either side of him resting peacefully. they ddnt >say a word too either one of us that would clear >up the mystery as too his parents were and who >the wives parents were either..there tombstones >were the only few that had not been torn down yet >by people. This cemettery is in bad shape all >around tombstones over turned everywhere which >makes it hard too read them. >later patsy > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >==== EGNER Mailing List ==== >Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Archibald is buried between two of his wives, Wife # 1 Lany (Laney Lahoma) Massey and wife #2 Mary Briane(Bryant). This cemetery is on land that Arch owned. The stones were set upright about 10 years ago by Dortha Faye Hasen RT #1 Box 87 Alkol, WV 25501. She has, over the years, done an awful lot to improve the conditions at many of our cemeteries. Archibald's third wife, Susan Carpenter, is buried in the Egnor cemetery on the Left Hand Fork of Mud River. Her grave is marked with a hand made stone. This stone was placed there in 1997 or 1998 but I don't know who did it. We have pictures at: http://GoZips.uakron.edu/~agould/genealogy.html "See pictures of the family as published in the notes of my family group sheets: !It's New!" CLICK ON !It's New Just thought you might like to know. Dick Gould ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [EGNER] Fw: Announcing the GC-Gateway Author: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com at internet Date: 04/05/2000 9:56 AM Patsy, what was the name of the cemetary ,and the location, I am curious, as I have family buried in Lincoln Co. Thanks, Kathi -----Original Message----- From: patsy adkins <buckwheat2193@yahoo.com> To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com <EGNER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [EGNER] Fw: Announcing the GC-Gateway >wow. this will be great and help us out on >something's with this lovely family.. will it >cover the surnames that connection with the >agner- egnor families. like those who married >into the family. >that will be wonderful. > >Just wanted too tell the group that me and Celia >went on adventure about two weeks ago in Lincoln >Co. W.va. We went looking for dear old Arch's >grave and found it along with his two wives on >either side of him resting peacefully. they ddnt >say a word too either one of us that would clear >up the mystery as too his parents were and who >the wives parents were either..there tombstones >were the only few that had not been torn down yet >by people. This cemettery is in bad shape all >around tombstones over turned everywhere which >makes it hard too read them. >later patsy > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >==== EGNER Mailing List ==== >Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Visit the Egner/Agner resource page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/ ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Here is an obituary that I am writing specifically for this list. An official obituary will appear in the Coshocton Tribune (Coshocton County, Ohio) probably tomorrow, maybe today or Friday. Dory and I--members of this list--and the rest of our family will miss him much. ---Celia Hartmann ============= Todd Junior Egnor, age 52, passed away at his home in Massillon, Ohio on Sunday evening, April 2, 2000. He was born May 30, 1947 in Charlottesville, Virginia, but grew up in California. He was the first of six children born to Roy Junior and Cecelia Carolyn (Alexander) Egnor. He was the grandson of Roy Bryant and Ella (Cooper) Egnor; the great grandson of Josiah Milton and Cora Ann (Whitten) Egnor; the great-great grandson of Josiah and Martha (Baisden) Egnor; the great-great-great grandson of Archibald and Lahoma (Massey) Egnor. He was a country music entertainer; he was a talented musician with a wonderful voice. He is survived by his father and step-mother Roy and Judy Egnor; three sons: Timothy Kirk, James Roy; Michael Todd; three daughters: Melinda Renee, Michelle Lynn, and Alisha Carol; several grandchildren; one brother, Larry Ray Egnor; one sister Roberta Lea Frenzi; and one step-sister, Celia Lynn Hartmann. His mother, Cecelia Carolyn Steward; one brother, Ronald Hayes; and two infant sisters, Madeline Carol and Cecelia Kay, preceded him in death. Graveside services will be held Friday, April 7, 2000.

wow. this will be great and help us out on something's with this lovely family.. will it cover the surnames that connection with the agner- egnor families. like those who married into the family. that will be wonderful. Just wanted too tell the group that me and Celia went on adventure about two weeks ago in Lincoln Co. W.va. We went looking for dear old Arch's grave and found it along with his two wives on either side of him resting peacefully. they ddnt say a word too either one of us that would clear up the mystery as too his parents were and who the wives parents were either..there tombstones were the only few that had not been torn down yet by people. This cemettery is in bad shape all around tombstones over turned everywhere which makes it hard too read them. later patsy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-staff@rootsweb.com> To: <GC-ANNOUNCE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 7:44 PM Subject: Announcing the GC-Gateway > You asked for it -- here it is! > > GenConnect boards can now be "gatewayed" to mailing lists. When a > board is gatewayed to a mailing list, every message posted to the > GenConnect board will be forwarded to the corresponding mailing list. > The message sent to the list will contain the URL of the specific post > to allow the list subscribers to respond directly to the message. In > this manner, gatewaying will enable more effective communication > between the mailing lists and the GenConnect boards. Hello listers, This is something new that Rootsweb is trying. So you will now receive via this Agner or Egner e-mail list anything that has been posted to the Agner or the Egner GenForum boards -- whether by one of us or someone else. I am in the process of establishing this connection for each of the boards for the Agner and Egner surname (queries, obits, etc.). After that we will sit back and wait for someone to post something to the boards and Rootsweb will forward it to list. ---Celia :o) List Manager ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Celia L. Hartmann Gen_Searchin@yahoo.com or hartmann@bright.net HELP ROOTSWEB HELP YOU: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

BRITANNIA At the Courtho. of Philadia., Sepr. 21st, 1731. Present: The Honble Patrick Gordon, Esqr., Lt. Govr Clement Plumsted, Esqr., Member of Council Thomas Laurence, Esqr, Member of Council Derick Jansen, Esqr., one of His Majties Justices of Peace for the county of Philadelphia. Michael Franklyn, Mr., from Rotterdam, but last from Cowes 21st of Septr., 1727 Johannes Bartholomay Rieger Hans Michael Willhelm Louis Timothee Joseph Beyer Geles Gelesen Hans Georg Gunt Gisbertus Boors Hans Georg Friedle Johannes Boors Jacob Gunt Jacob Swenkoel Hans Peter Garner Heenric Geber Hans Michael Henninger Johannes Geber Rudolph Holsinger Johan Henric Geber Hans Leonard Haltzarfall Jacob Ritsch Erasmus Haltzarfall Lucas Vetter Henric Herbertz David Vetter Jacob Hachman. Johannes Alberts Johan Heinstand Abraham Allshousen Michael Horsch Johan Henrick Bahn Daniel Hubert Hans Michael Blatnert Christian Hubert Veith Bruninger Jacob Carl Johan Jacob Beyer Ulrick Keyser Johan Adam Beyer Henrick Kram Henrick Blicker Nicolas Kennell Leonard Bock Jacob Kobell Hans Boshung Abraham Kern Hans George Ebert George Dietric Kohl Hans Michael Ebert Johannes Kirkner Johannes Eshleman Gottfried Krafft Johannes Agender Valentine Klain Johannes Frey Wilhelm Kerkes Hans Michael Deibellbissin Wendel Lautermilch Hans George Deibellbissin Christopher Lehman Leonart Steininger Johan Philip Lutz Michael Nehs Hans Peter Lederman Hans Georg Muller Michael Meyer Johan Leonard Bihlmeir Hans Jacob Mentz' Johan Martin Sakreider Jacob Meyer Johan Michel Schrotner Christofall Meyer Michel Stocker Johan Thomas Meyer Georg Wilhelm Schwartz Hans Henrick Martin Henric Lutwig Schwartz Jacob Mier Johan Adam Schroter Michel Moths Valentine Siegmund Johan Casper Muntz Jacob Sumaker Christian Muller Johannes Smiedt Herman Muller Christofall Trubar Mathias Nehs Hans Vogler Johan Nehs Leonard Virohn Dewald Nehs Oswald Wald Hans Georg Nehs Hans Martin Wetzell Mathias Nehs, junr. Georg Wanamaker Georg Passage. Johan Jacob Weynand Gabriel Roscher Casper Weis Johannes Roth Jacob Wirtz Jacob Rohr Jacob Nehs Johan Adam Ruppert Hope every one wants a copy. Vaughn

Finally, after spending several days at the NARA in Denver, as well as poring over a cd, lots of copying and lots of typing, the Egner/Egnor census information! I corrected and added some info to the previous 1900-1920 info I sent. If you receive the information in the usual jumble and you would like a neat aligned copy; let me know and I'll send you a Word file. CECIL COUNTY, MD. CENSUSES 1850 NAME AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE John W. Eagner 33 Farmer Del. *Surname misspelled; s/b Egner Matilda 28 Md. Robert M. 10 Mary L. (?) 7 Elizabeth 4 Rebecca 1 Hannah Prichett 33 Md. John Eagner 27 Joseph 19 Jacob 12 Martha Prichett 7 Hannah A. 3 Jesse 7 1860 NAME AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE John W. Egner 41 Carpenter Del Matilda 38 Md. Robert 19 Carpenter Mary 18 Elizabeth 15 Rebecca 13 *age appears to be incorrect John 7 Thos J 5 *Thomas & James are twins James M 5 *age appears to be incorrect George W 1 James Kelly 18 Farmhand Md. Jane Ricketts 69 Md. Mary A. 28 Nancey 26 Rachael 24 Benjamin 22 Mathias Egner 44 Catharine Johns 50 John Leonard 15 John Kerr 38 Merchant Pa. Margaret 29 Emma 8 Md. Wm. 6 Wm. Steel 18 Rebecca I. Egner 9 1870 NAME AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE John W. Egner 51 Farmer Del Matilda 48 Keeps house Md. Robt M 29 Carpenter Mary 27 at home Elizabeth 24 at home Rebecca 21 at home John 16 at home James M 13 at home Saml J 13 at home *listed as Thos J. in 1860 census Geo. W. 11 at home Ruth E. 8 at home Ella M Garrett 2 at home J. Thos Kelly 27 Carpenter Md. Elizabeth 27 Housekeeping Mary R. 2 James W. 5/12 Mary Jane Ricketts 32 Housekeeping Md. Nannie 30 Housekeeping Catharine A. Johns 60 Living on means Mathias Egnor 58 Living on means *surname incorrect (Egner) William Davis 14 Errand boy 1880 NAME RELATION AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE Matilda Egnor 58 Farmer Md. *Matilda, Robert M. and John T. adapt surname spelling of EGNOR Rebecca Daughter 29 Dressmaker Maddison Son 23 Works on farm Jefferson Son 23 Works on farm *previously listed as Thos/Saml George Son 17 Works in sash mill *age incorrect Emma R Daughter 15 at school *age incorrect Elizabeth Garrett Daughter 33 at home Ella M Grandchild12 at school Martha Quinn Grandchild 5 Robert M. Egnor 39 Carpenter Md. Ella Wife 29 Keeping house Walter R Son 4 Henry M Son 2 Census Son 1/12 John T. Egnor 26 Carpenter Md. Mary A Wife ?? Keeping house Pa. Clement Son 1/12 Md. Thomas Kelly 37 Clerk in store Md. Elizabeth Wife 37 Keeping house Maisie Daughter 13 *previously listed as Mary R. Walter Son 11 *previously listed as James W. Lucy Daughter 7 Johnnie Son 4 Willie Son 2 Mary Ricketts 45 Keeping house Md. William Brown 18 Laborer Md. Matthias Egnor 69 Servant Md. 1900 NAME RELATION AGE BIRTHDATE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE Robert M Egnor Head 59 Mar 1841 Millwright Md. Ella Wife 48 Aug 1851 Robert N. Son 17 Sept 1882 Day laborer William S. Son 15 Feb 1885 Day laborer Ralph K. Son 12 July 1887 at school Martha M. Daughter 10 Nov 1889 at school John T. Egnor Head 45 July 1854 Farmer Md. Mary A. Wife 38 Feb 1862 Pa. Clement Son 20 May 1880 Md. John T. Jr. Son 10 June 1890 Ethel D. Daughter 4 Oct 1895 Md. John Pritchard Servant 17 May 1883 Farm laborer Daniel T Arbuckle Head 47 July 1852 Farmer Pa. Mary C. Wife 31 Dec 1868 Md. Ella M. Daughter 16 Oct 1883 Raymond Son 11 Mar 1889 Stanley M. Son 1 Apr 1899 Mary E. Daughter 1 Apr 1899 Md. Maurice E. Egnor Grnephew 20 Apr 1880 Md. Thomas C. Major Head 36 Feb 1864 Butcher Md. Ruth E. Wife 38 May 1862 Leonard E. Son 12 Oct 1881 at school Helen E. Daughter 10 Jan 1890 at school Roy M. Egnor Nephew 13 Mar 1887 at school *surname s/b Egner Margaret Loofland Servant 19 Dec 1880 Servant Del James T. Kelly Head 57 Oct 1842 House carpenter Md. Elizabeth A. Wife 57 July 1842 Walter Son 30 Jan 1870 Painter John G. Son 25 Feb 1875 RR laborer William W. Son 22 Oct 1877 Cotton weaver Ethel M. Daughter 18 Apr 1882 Matilda M. Egnor Grndaughtr 11 Sep 1888 at school *father: James Madison Egner 1910 NAME RELATION AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE Robert M. Egnor Head 69 Md. Ella Wife 59 Maurice E. Son 20 Engineer-paper mill *age incorrect Ralph Son 22 paper mill Md. John T. Egnor Head 55 Farmer Md. Mary A. Wife 48 Pa. Clement M. Son 29 Farm laborer Md. John T. Son 20 Farm laborer Ethel D.12 Daughter 10 *age incorrect John D. Lutz (?) Boarder 9 Pa. Thomas C. Major Head 46 Butcher-own shop Pa. Ruth E. Wife 46 Md. *age incorrect Leonard E. Son 22 Civil engineer Helen E. Daughter 20 Elizabeth Kelly Head 66 Md. John T. Son 35 Signalman-railroad William W. Son 32 Signalman-railroad Ethel Maria Daughter 27 Matilda May Egnor Grndaughter 21 Dressmaker Sara S. Kimble Head 55 Farmer Md. Mary E. Daughter 35 Teacher Semetz (?) Son 25 Teacher-church school Ida L. Egner Daughter 32 Evelyn T. Kimble Daughter 30 Teacher-high school David R. P. Alexander Houseman 69 Farm laborer 1920 NAME RELATION AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE Ella Egnor Head 68 Md. Mary A. Egnor Head 57 Farm operator (?) Pa. John T. Son 29 Farmer Md. Fannie Dghtr in law 29 Herbert F. Grandson 1 4/12 (?) Pa. Matthew T. Pearson Son in law 29 Engineer-steam engine Md. Ethel A. Daughter 24 John E. Grandson 2 11/12 C.M. Egnor Head 40 (?) Md. Maurice Egnor Head 39 Engineer Md. Eva Wife 32 Anna R. Daughter 5 Albert Son 3 Martha N. Daughter 10/12 Roy Egnor Head 31 Mechanic-garage Md. *surname s/b Egner Susan Wife 29 Pa. *given name Susanna Madison Son 6 11/12 Md. *first name Roy Mary Daughter 5 Leonard Son 4

--part1_c4.1ff51ea.26057915_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got this on another list. Food for thought. --part1_c4.1ff51ea.26057915_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v70.19) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:12:18 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:12:08 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15173; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:11:32 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:11:32 -0800 (PST) From: kimbuc@juno.com Old-To: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-D@rootsweb.com, StLouis-MO-D@rootsweb.com, Missouri-D@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <20000318.001038.-770229.1.kimbuc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6-7,13-14,19-20,22-47,49-50,52-72,74,77 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] The wonderful census Resent-Message-ID: <381V6C.A.osD.S4x04@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1578 X-Loop: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L-request@rootsweb.com Listers, With all the conversations relating to Census 2000 I thought it might be time to bring things back to reality. The census is not to log information for future generations to refer back to, 75 years from now most of will be long gone and just a few scribbled lines in the census report. Should you and I write down the details of our lives for our descendants it will be much more meaningful than what is contained in some dusty ledger or a few digits in some yet to be designed computer. How many of these computer disks that we are creating today will be able to be read by the future computers, most of us can't read the stuff we put on the old 5-1/4 disks. The census is nothing more than a numbers game X number of people gets a House of Representative member, X minus so many reduces the number of Representatives in an area. Or who gets the next bucket of money and how much. Our founding fathers sure weren't thinking about family research when they wrote out the requirement, they were counting noses. As to the Value of a census record for Genealogical purposes I would make following observations. Census records across the country are historic for their errors, especially when it comes to the ages of the male members of the family. You must remember not all of our ancestors came to this country because they were happy campers in their homelands. Europe during all of it's history was in and out of wars, much the same as the world is today. You need people to fight these wars and not all people wanted to be what was lovingly referred to as "Cannon Fodder". As a result of this need e

>From Rootsweb's PML service........... ========== Source: GC-Roth Obituaries URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/rot/RothObits?read=15 Subject: John W ROTH, d 1973 Surname: ROTH, KUTSCH, JAGGERS, JAMES, WINN, ATTEBERRY, PATRICK, SUTTON, BERG, LARSEN, HARDY ------------------------- >From Albany Democrat Herald- Albany, Oregon- Dec 1973 John W. Roth LEBANON- John W Roth, 58, of 435 Center St, died Friady in a Lebanon Hospital after a short illness. He was born in Albany and lived in Redmond and Scio before coming to Lebanon five years ago. He was a newspaper carried for the Albany Democrat Herald at the time of his death. Survivors include the widow, Judy; daughters Mrs. Roger Brunette and Mrs. Stephen Boyce, Albany, Joy Roth of Lebanon; sons John Earl, Jeffery Wayne and Jay Forrest all of Lebanon; stepsons Jimmy DeLion, Eugene, Eugene DeLion of Lebanon, Earl DeLion of Sulpher, LA; brothers Clyde and Alfred of Scio, Wilmer and Joe of Albany; sisters Mrs. Hazel Egner, Lebanon, Mrs. Edith Underwood and Mrs. Elsi Plagmann, both of Scio; 16 grandchildren. Graveside services will be 2pm Tuesday at Waverly Memorial Cemetery in Albany, Pastor Dan Angove officiating. Fisher mortuary of Albany is in charge.

They were in KY before 1840, don't know anything else yet other than that. If I find anything else will let you know. Celia #2 -----Original Message----- From: Ann Nobles [mailto:ann@noblescorp.com] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:34 AM To: EGNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [EGNER] Egner:Grubbs: Andrew Jackson burial? Do you have an approximate date of the migration of the Grubbs and Agners/Egners to Kentucky? Ann Nobles Descendant of Elizabeth "Lizzie" Egner and Andrew Jackson "Jack" Grubb patsy adkins wrote: > > HI THERE... > THE GRUBB'S CONNECTION WITH AGNER'S OUT OF ROWAN > COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA.. > SAMUEL AGNER TOO POLLY GRUBB ON 4-15-1816.. > THESE PEOPLE ENDED UP GOING TOO KENTUCKY.. > SAMUEL BELONGED HENRY JR AND ELIZABETH AREY... > HOPE THIS HELPS YOU OUT.. > PATSY > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== > Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, > Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. ==== EGNER Mailing List ==== Post your Queries, Bible Records, Bios, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, and Wills on the appropriate GenConnect Board: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/e/g/EGNER/#gc ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

In a message dated 3/13/00 4:52:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, illycem@hotmail.com writes: << While it is true the Revolutionary War Pension Records are on microfilm-and available at many research institutes- I don't believe the Civil War Pension Records are available in that format >> I am not sure about the Civil War records either. You must keep in mind that we did NOT have a National Army like we do today until World War I. Prior to that soldiers were raised by State Militias. Even today most of the soldiers serving in Kuwait, Kosovo or Bosnia were taken from the State Militias (known better as the National Guard). Some Civil War records are maintained by the respective states while others were sent to the NARA Regional archive as in Washington State. I recommend you find out what records are maintained by NARA (www.nara.gov) and what records are kept by the respective states (try Cyndi's List of Genealogical Sites at www.cyndislist.com or Chris' List of Political and Government Links at www.chrislist.com). You can also try to VA (www.va.gov). I had a Great Uncle who died at the VA Hospital in Walla Walla, WA in 1950. They had his records and were happy to share it with me. Good luck Chris

If you go to the GENDEX site and ask for Egners you will find some Whitley Co KY that were submitted by an Ernie Grubb. Perhaps he has some info for you. He has over 1,000 Grubbs, 14 Egners. Anyone been in touch with him? I noticed he also had Mary Agner who married John Smathers. But no info on her parents. I didn't have time to look it over well. Did see he had Mary/Polly Grubb's line back to the immigrant. Perhaps someone else can pursue. Here's a homepage: http://www.my-ged.com/grubb/ Good luck! ---Celia Hartmann :o)