Dear Rhonda, Thank you so much for your response. Here is what I know: 1) Nathaniel "Matt" Adams was born 25 Dec 1863 in Menifee or Morgan County, Kentucky. (From Nathaniel's marriage return). 2) Nathaniel may have a brother named James W. Adams, born about Mar 1865 in Kentucky. (That these two brother married the two sisters is a family story. The marriage records suggest it could be true, but don't prove it. Of course, it could be completely incorrect). 3) Nathaniel Adams married Mary C. Manning 20 Nov 1884 in Morgan County, Kentucky. (Marriage return) 4) James Adams married Marena L. Manning 20 Nov 1884 in Morgan County, Kentucky. (Marriage return. Same day/place/preacher as #3 above) 5) Marena and Mary C. Mannin were sisters. (As identified in the 1870 Grassy, Morgan, Kentucky census) 6) 1870 Census, Frenchburg, Menifee, Kentucky, there is a Nathaniel Adams living in the James Adams and Jane Burch household. (But no brother James) 7) 1860 Census, Morgan, Dist 1, there is a James W. living in the Lewis C. and Deborah Adams household. They lived fairly close to the Mannins. (But no brother Nathaniel) 8) I've been unable to locate the 1870 Census for Lewis and Deborah. If Nathaniel and James were indeed brothers, they should be living in the same household in 1870. Maybe as a next step I can check probate records for James/Jane and Lewis/Deborah to see if they shed any light? Happy Thanksgiving! Tim -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Houston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:51 AM To: [email protected]; 'Tim Wallace' Subject: RE: [EASTERNKENTUCKY] Parentage of Nathanial C. "Matt" Adams Would this be of any help?? Perhaps these marriages weren't conducted in Morgan, but in Menifee or Wolfe Counites, KY. When in doubt, or can't find, or you are confronted with a 'brickwall', modify the spelling somewhat so to seek a better possibilty rather than taking what has been written by the federal marshall (or as to what the transcriber of the census, as is the case, had for the spelling of Adams, which has been observered here, so as to see what else may infact, come up and render as a better, more informed and ledgeable information. Rhonda Warmack Houston ([email protected]) Name: Nathanael Adame [Nathaniel Adams] Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Age in 1870: 7 Birthplace: Kentucky Home in 1870: Frenchburg, Menifee, Kentucky Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Rock House Household Members: Name Age James Adame 55 age 55 b. 1815 Kentucky profession was noted as 'coal trader' Jane Adame 48 age 48 b. 1822 Indiana Letitia Adame 22 age 22 b. 1848 Kentucky Joseph Adame 18 age 18 b. 1852 Kentucky farm hand Levi Adame 16 age 16 b. 1854 Kentucky farm hand John F Adame 14 age 14 b. 1856 Kentucky farm hand Henry Adame 9 age 9 b. 1861 Kentucky at home Nathanael Adame 7 b. 1863 Kentucky at home (am viewing the actual census now) Andrew Adame 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Age in 1870: 4 Birthplace: Kentucky at home ============================================================================ ========== These are the only combinations of Adams and Burch surnames I could find within the Kentucky marriage lists that married within all of Kentucky's counties. All of these below took place before either James Adams and Jane Burch were born. I wonder if James and Jane were married somewhere in Indiana, early on??? Girls were usually married not too far from their father's home in those days. What do you think? Rhonda Warmack Houston ([email protected]) Adams, James Grimes, Jane 02 Dec 1817 Kentucky - parents marriage Lincoln County, Kentucky Burch, Jane Devine, Roger 22 Aug 1794 Kentucky Lincoln County Burch, Jane Riffe, Jacob 10 May 1824 Kentucky Lincoln County -------------------------------------------------------- Kentucky Marriages, 1851-1900 - Adams' children's marriages about MARY C. MANNIN Name: NATHAN C. ADAMS - would this be your guy? Spouse: MARY C. MANNIN Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1884 County: Morgan State: KY Kentucky Marriages, 1851-1900 about ALICE PITMAN Name: JAMES C. ADAMS - son? Spouse: ALICE PITMAN Marriage Date: 02 Mar 1884 County: Pulaski State: KY Kentucky Marriages, 1851-1900 about BETTIE WHEELER Name: JAMES C. ADAMS - son? Spouse: BETTIE WHEELER Marriage Date: 17 Nov 1886 County: Crittenden State: KY Kentucky Marriages, 1851-1900 about LAURA HERRIFORD Name: HENRY C. ADAMS - son? Spouse: LAURA HERRIFORD Marriage Date: 11 May 1882 County: Magoffin State: KY -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Wallace Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [EASTERNKENTUCKY] Parentage of Nathanial C. "Matt" Adams Happy Thanksgiving, Was hoping someone had proof of parentage for Nathaniel C. Adams, b 25 Dec 1863 in Menifee, Kentucky, d. 27 Nov 1929, Morgan, Kentucky, m. Mary Catherine Mannin/Manning on 20 Nov 1884 in Morgan, Kentucky. Nathaniel had a brother James, who married Marena L. Mannin (Mary Catherine's Sister) on the same day. There is no census that have Nathaniel and James living under the same roof that I could locate. The marriage records for Nathaniel and James do not provide the names of the parents. Possible parents could be: James Adams and Jane Burch Lewis Chambers Adams and Deborah Unknown Thank you! Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message