Dear Texas List, Does any body, like the list manager, have an idea on what to do to help stop this action? I've never reached a live body at rootsweb yet. In the meantime some importain Spencer info has been lost to searcher's. I don't know what she means, I havn't sent 50 message in the last three days. If someone knows the list manager please FWD this to them. If it had of happen to me, I'd just fwd messages on until it was corrected. I wouldn't screamed at people who didn't make the mistake, and was doing good works. Carl in Wichita ----Original Message Follows---- From: "pps" <pps@txucom.net> To: "zella coffman" <zcoffman@hotmail.com>,"flora newby" <fnewby@getus.com> CC: <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: Mixed up messages!!!!!!! Please Stop Them!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:11:06 -0800 I subscribe to Roots Web newsletter this morning and every since I'm getting several e-mail messages that belong to you'll. Please encourage Roots Web to stop sending me your e-mail messages. I'm getting the over and over and over again and again so far about 50, some the same ones repeatedly. Check out my Web Site Kae's Korner at http://www.geocities.com/kaepartin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Wanda, Sounds like the same line to me. Your below message is being FWD this second. She is quite busy, so give her time, and save my e-mail just in case. What in the world are the two of you doing on east Texas roots searching for Spencer? Isn't there a Spencer Page? It's ok by me, it seems to be working for you today, what can I say. ----Original Message Follows---- From: wrtracy@juno.com To: zcoffman@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Spencer's possibly from Mississippi > Smith Co., Texas Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:03:53 -0700 Carl, I am not Rhonda, but I am also researching Spencers and wonder if you would get me in touch with Doctor Barbara Beall too. .My Spencers came from England - VA-Tenn_ Franklin Co IL.. They were a very large family so it is possible my Spencer line went to Il and and others of the same family went elswhere. In my research, I have found MANY Spencers in Tenn, especially Lincoln Co. and this is where my bunch lived when they went to IL. Tthank you Wanda wrtracy@juno.com On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:07:22 PST "zella coffman" <zcoffman@hotmail.com> writes: > Hi. Rhonda, Maybe a Straw is all you need sometimes. Your search has > been > FWD to Doctor Barbara Beall in Denver, Foremost researcher on > Sdencer's. > Good luck and God Bless, Carl in Wichita <carl_coffman@hotmail.com> > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: marhonda@swbell.net > Reply-To: marhonda@swbell.net > To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Spencer's possibly from Mississippi > Smith Co., Texas > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:35:19 +0000 > > I'm really grabbing for straws now. I am having a time trying to > find > my husband's relatives. Someone told me the SPENCER's were elusive. > I > am beginning to believe that now. I'm looking for James W. Spencer. > The "W" could be William. He was born 4/14/1861 (Not sure of > birthplace) and died Smith Co., TX on 8/6/1926. I called and spoke > with > the county clerk of Smith Co., Texas and there was no birth > certificate > on James W. Spencer. Somehow the family managed to get by with not > filling it out. He was married to Nina Lucy Brooks. A family member > said > that the Spencer's came across the Mississippi River to Texas in > 1889. > I have a picture that says that James W. Spencer's sister was > Nora(possibly 1/2 sister) who married George Harris or Harrison and > a > 1/2 sister named Susie who married Buff Thorton. I would appreciate > any > kind of help:) > Rhonda Gregg Spencer > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows---- From: "pps" <pps@txucom.net> To: "zella coffman" <zcoffman@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Spencer's possibly from Mississippi > Smith Co., Texas Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:51:36 -0800 This got sent to me somehow by mistake ----- Original Message ----- From: zella coffman <zcoffman@hotmail.com> To: <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Spencer's possibly from Mississippi > Smith Co., Texas > Hi. Rhonda, Maybe a Straw is all you need sometimes. Your search has been > FWD to Doctor Barbara Beall in Denver, Foremost researcher on Sdencer's. > Good luck and God Bless, Carl in Wichita <carl_coffman@hotmail.com> > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: marhonda@swbell.net > Reply-To: marhonda@swbell.net > To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Spencer's possibly from Mississippi > Smith Co., Texas > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:35:19 +0000 > > I'm really grabbing for straws now. I am having a time trying to find > my husband's relatives. Someone told me the SPENCER's were elusive. I > am beginning to believe that now. I'm looking for James W. Spencer. > The "W" could be William. He was born 4/14/1861 (Not sure of > birthplace) and died Smith Co., TX on 8/6/1926. I called and spoke with > the county clerk of Smith Co., Texas and there was no birth certificate > on James W. Spencer. Somehow the family managed to get by with not > filling it out. He was married to Nina Lucy Brooks. A family member said > that the Spencer's came across the Mississippi River to Texas in 1889. > I have a picture that says that James W. Spencer's sister was > Nora(possibly 1/2 sister) who married George Harris or Harrison and a > 1/2 sister named Susie who married Buff Thorton. I would appreciate any > kind of help:) > Rhonda Gregg Spencer > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I'm really grabbing for straws now. I am having a time trying to find my husband's relatives. Someone told me the SPENCER's were elusive. I am beginning to believe that now. I'm looking for James W. Spencer. The "W" could be William. He was born 4/14/1861 (Not sure of birthplace) and died Smith Co., TX on 8/6/1926. I called and spoke with the county clerk of Smith Co., Texas and there was no birth certificate on James W. Spencer. Somehow the family managed to get by with not filling it out. He was married to Nina Lucy Brooks. A family member said that the Spencer's came across the Mississippi River to Texas in 1889. I have a picture that says that James W. Spencer's sister was Nora(possibly 1/2 sister) who married George Harris or Harrison and a 1/2 sister named Susie who married Buff Thorton. I would appreciate any kind of help:) Rhonda Gregg Spencer

Hi. Rhonda, Maybe a Straw is all you need sometimes. Your search has been FWD to Doctor Barbara Beall in Denver, Foremost researcher on Sdencer's. Good luck and God Bless, Carl in Wichita <carl_coffman@hotmail.com> ----Original Message Follows---- From: marhonda@swbell.net Reply-To: marhonda@swbell.net To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Spencer's possibly from Mississippi > Smith Co., Texas Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:35:19 +0000 I'm really grabbing for straws now. I am having a time trying to find my husband's relatives. Someone told me the SPENCER's were elusive. I am beginning to believe that now. I'm looking for James W. Spencer. The "W" could be William. He was born 4/14/1861 (Not sure of birthplace) and died Smith Co., TX on 8/6/1926. I called and spoke with the county clerk of Smith Co., Texas and there was no birth certificate on James W. Spencer. Somehow the family managed to get by with not filling it out. He was married to Nina Lucy Brooks. A family member said that the Spencer's came across the Mississippi River to Texas in 1889. I have a picture that says that James W. Spencer's sister was Nora(possibly 1/2 sister) who married George Harris or Harrison and a 1/2 sister named Susie who married Buff Thorton. I would appreciate any kind of help:) Rhonda Gregg Spencer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Good Morning Sherry and All East Texas List. I am really confused about all this East -- West-- NorthEast-- SouthEast Texas Parts. The way I think of where Texas is---from being in Wichita,Ks.--- It's that Great Big Area South of Indian Terr. on I-35. I found out you can drive days to get across it and you better take 2 launches before you go anywhere. It ever a state should be called "the big sky" it should of been Texas. I do know where the Red River Area along north Texas border is. Went to Bonham (Fannin County)2 months ago. What a lovely Place and ever one so very nice, loved the way the lady's talked there. Now would that of been Way South--South--South--North- East Texas to Me? Please Answer whether I'm right or not, as I'm very worried that I may be Wrong,<G>. Carl in Wichita Well, Like some I wasn't going to get involved but I just couldn't help myself because my husband and I graduated from a High School in Nacogdoches Co.,(East Texas) and our children were born in Nacogdoches Co. I agree with Tom as to the boundaries of East Texas. We are now in Pasadena Texas (Stinkadena). We are trying our best to get back to "God's country." The air is so fresh and clean there. Amazing. My husband also says, "you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy;" We are proud to be from East Texas and will be back there one day. Tom Dunklin wrote: > Sherry, > So good to hear from someone who really knows where East Texas is > located. Speaking for myself, this old gal lived in Henderson, Tx all > my life and was taught early on where East Texas was. Like you, most > everyone in our area called East TX anyplace in between Livingston to > the south and Longview to the north and Palestine to the west. And > believe me, the East Texas accent is real. I can't tell you how many > times I've been visiting in the Western states and had people come up to > me and TELL me that I was from East Texas. When asked how they knew, > they always said they could tell by my accent! And to this day, I > wouldn't change a "thang." The pine sap still runs in my vein to this > day and some day I'll tell Houston goodbye and finally go back home. Regards: Carl and Zella (daughter) Coffman 1448 S Handley St. Wichita, KS 67213 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

East Texas Folks, I was born in the East Texas Ghost town of Emporia. (Figure out where that is.) Love East Texas and the friendly people and plan to return when I retire. Cannot wait to get away from this stinking big city. Doing research on the Carnley Family in East Texas. Most of the Family lived in Shelby, Nacogdoches, Angelina, Polk and Tyler Counties. Any information appreciated. Will share any information I have. East Texas Roots is a good list, gets away from Genealogy sometime, but still a good list. Always get a response when I post something. R D Carnley

This is a great list my granddaddy Colquitt was from Bon Weir,well first Panola County out around Gary Texas.I have a lot of good stories from my people there.My mother-in-law was a Ritter and she and her brother's and sister's lived in the old Ritter homestead.I have been researching the Cherry,Colquitt,Ritter,Goodwin,and Ball lines.I wish I knew how to get in touch with John Ritter.I have pics of the house with the mules out in front of the barn.My mother-in-law and a bunch of my elders gave me some good true stories and I used to go out there,am ashamed to admit that I haven't been in years.So if any of you out there talk to John tell him I have a lot of stories about our people Flora Newby in Spring Texas

Call for articles to go into the Shelby County Historical Society's monthly newsletter for Year 2000- Deadline 14th of each month. Will add family research, finding, looking for, articles describing life in the early 1800 and 1900s dealing with Shelby County, Texas, details of early life in county... If you would like to receive the newsletter contact the Shelby County Historical Society at schs@panola.cc.tx.us or by PO Box 1542, Center, TX 75935 Submit articles to Editor jwarner@ktsnet.com or schs@panola.cc.tx.us

I have some info on the Cooper's of Garrett's Bluff...they are a part of the Bird/Byrd family. Do you know Mr. Cooper's given name? -- Peggy MawPeggy@ectisp.net ICQ 31827094 Maw Peggy @ AOL IM Herridge@onelist.com WmWilson@onelist.com Honnoll-Hunnell@onelist.com BallingerHSclassof64@onelist.com http://homepages.go.com/~mawp/ I'm getting paid to surf, read e-mails, play games, etc. and will be happy to share info on how you can, too!

Hey Ya'll you can't forget the red dirt, Mimosa trees, fresh spring water, & hills!! Ronda

Having lived below Corpus Christie, TX, anything south of Houston (with all of the counties it occupies) was always referred to as the Coastal Bend Region, and when one drives far enough south into the Coastal Bend Region, one lives in the famous Salt Flats. Interesting, this business of dividing up the state ... by regions. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca <AmericaFaye@webtv.net> To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:29 PM Subject: Re: The Boundry Saga, Ad Infinitum Let's see now. I "think" I live in South Central, or is it South East, Texas ? What do you think south of Houston would be ? Or do I just live "Down here" in Texas ? Could be " Down where the beaches are ", or on the "Gulf Coast of Texas ". Hummmmmmm... My son just moved to Mineola, Tx., not long ago and he said he will never return to this area to live. He said there is all the difference in the world between "Here & There " Not only in the beauty of "East Texas ? " , but in the people. He said that everyone waves at everyone, or nods their head, or speaks as you pass them by where he lives now. "Down here", unless you actually know the person, your lucky to even see their eyes. I've lived here since 1952 and I will have to agree with him. I may live in the City of Enchantment, but I also live in the city of "snobs". This is known by many, many, people that visit our town. Sorry everyone that may be from here, but it is true. Don't get me wrong. There are some very friendly people here, but it is true that not many will talk to strangers or even acknowledge them. Rebecca AmericaFaye@webtv.net See my web page at http://community.webtv.net/AmericafayeII/Reflections0

some time during the holidays someone gave a place to research Nacogdoches County marriages / Cason Monk funeral records etc. I have lost that e-mail and would love to get it back.Just scanned over it because of holiday guest. Now I have the time and have lost it [ more ways than one]. Any help will be appreciated. Billie

I tend to agree with Gloria also about the Piney Woods for EAST TEXAS. But since researching my ancestors in EAST TEXAS, they were in Panola, Rusk, Johnson, Hood, Houston, Bosque, Coryell, Navaro, Ellis, Cooke and Young. Then they moved west to Childress where they finally settled. I have always tended to identify Texas by it geographical areas, High Plains and the Cap Rock, Piney Woods, the Gulf and of course West Texas (El Paso). I am from Childress and have worked all over the Panhandle, went to college in both Wichita Falls and Canyon (when WTSU had a football team!) My Jones family is well documented in the FWGS writings and they were all in East Texas. So I tend to believe than any "tag" is relative when discussing Texas. In the larger picture of genealogical research East Texas to me is anything east of Childress! Jim Moody Wasilla, Alaska Texas: JONES COFFEY CHESNUTT North Carolina: MOODY BLACK SMITH WILSON ALEXANDER ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Douglas" <sdouglas@lcc.net> To: <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 09:03 AM Subject: Re: East Texas > I was keeping out of this, but I will now put my two cents worth in also.. I > was raised in Liberty County and taught that was SOUTH East Texas. About > Livingstone, Polk Co. began East Texas all the way north to Longview. Really > above there was considered NORTH East Texas. I was amazed to discover that > people from Paris and Texarkana consider themselves living in East Texas. Oh > well, TEXAS is a big state, and if we divide it into fourths, I guess then > they are as East Texan as I am now, that I'm living in Nacogdoches Co. Boy, > do we have Pine trees and chicken houses! Sherry Coker Douglas > > Researching LEE, ALLEN, DELONEY, BIRD, WEBSTER, COKER, ISHAM,& PERKINS, from > NACOGDOCHES, SHELBY, HUNT, HOPKINS, WOOD, & RUSK COUNTIES. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gloria B. Mayfield <gbmayfield@tyler.net> > To: <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: East Texas > > > > I think East Texas is where the PINE TREES Are. Gloria > > >

There just has to be a North-East and a South-East Texas. Reason I know this is, I live near Beaumont, TX, and I have to travel North, to get to East-Texas.

If I will not be the one who gets into trouble for not talking genealogy here, I have to relate my experience from moving from the Pineywoods of east Texas to the short grass prairies of the High Plains of west Texas as a result of being stationed in eastern New Mexico in the Service. As a relative youngster back then, I had never been out of eastern Texas for long. After receiving orders to report to my first duty station, I distinctly recall driving west into Abilene at night. I was extremely tired and thought that I had better stay in Abilene before I drove on. "Ah, some lights ahead! Abilene couldn't be over 5 or 6 miles ahead!" Fifty miles and an hour later, I arrived in Abilene, dog-tired and astounded that one could see city lights at such a distance! For a year after I arrived on the High Plains, whenever driving at night, I imagined that I could see dark trees overhanging the road. I would quickly realize that the trees were nonexistent when I would see some distant farm house light shining miles off on the side. Going from the closed tree-covered environment of east Texas to the open prairies, I actually experienced what I would call the inverse of claustrophobia. Now when I go home to east Texas, I feel closed in! (Note that I still call it home!) I have always said; had the Europeans lived on the High Plains when they were formulating their astronomical theories, the flat Earth theory would still be viable! : ) Not living in Texas for the past few years has made me realize that all parts of Texas are special, as are the friendly people who live there. Ron Albuquerque, NM LeeFamilyTree@aol.com wrote: > I can't begin to tell all of you how much I have enjoyed the comments about > the East Texas county issue. I wrote Sharon Church (the one who started this > mess) a little note the other day and I think she is enjoying it too. > We must all realize of couse that we are giving her fodder for a great book > that would rival the likes of "Bubba Goes To Texas" > In response to the "Central Texas" issue; think about it, who would want to > tell someone they were from Central Texas ? It has no romance !! North ? > maybe a little. South ? depends on who you are talking to. West ? > Everybody likes to make fun of West Texans and I should know because I am > one. For instance "It's so flat in West Texas you can lay on your belly and > see for five miles" > But now EAST Texas has romance, character, history and most of all, class. > If you don't believe it just ask someone from East Texas.......... > Keep em coming guys and girls , hell I might write that book myself. > Sammy Lee

Let's see now. I "think" I live in South Central, or is it South East, Texas ? What do you think south of Houston would be ? Or do I just live "Down here" in Texas ? Could be " Down where the beaches are ", or on the "Gulf Coast of Texas ". Hummmmmmm... My son just moved to Mineola, Tx., not long ago and he said he will never return to this area to live. He said there is all the difference in the world between "Here & There " Not only in the beauty of "East Texas ? " , but in the people. He said that everyone waves at everyone, or nods their head, or speaks as you pass them by where he lives now. "Down here", unless you actually know the person, your lucky to even see their eyes. I've lived here since 1952 and I will have to agree with him. I may live in the City of Enchantment, but I also live in the city of "snobs". This is known by many, many, people that visit our town. Sorry everyone that may be from here, but it is true. Don't get me wrong. There are some very friendly people here, but it is true that not many will talk to strangers or even acknowledge them. Rebecca AmericaFaye@webtv.net See my web page at http://community.webtv.net/AmericafayeII/Reflections0

Sherry, So good to hear from someone who really knows where East Texas is located. Speaking for myself, this old gal lived in Henderson, Tx all my life and was taught early on where East Texas was. Like you, most everyone in our area called East TX anyplace in between Livingston to the south and Longview to the north and Palestine to the west. And believe me, the East Texas accent is real. I can't tell you how many times I've been visiting in the Western states and had people come up to me and TELL me that I was from East Texas. When asked how they knew, they always said they could tell by my accent! And to this day, I wouldn't change a "thang." The pine sap still runs in my vein to this day and some day I'll tell Houston goodbye and finally go back home.

I am seeking descendants of George W. LOWERY born abt 1832 in AL and died after 1880 in Shelby or Sabine Co, TX. George was first married to Eliza (Unknown last name) born abt 1836 in AL and died after 1860 probably in Sabine Co, TX. They had at least one child, Amanda born 1853. His second wife was Mary (Unknown last name) born abt 1842 or 4 in TX and died aft 1880 probably in Shelby or Sabine Cos. Mary may have been married to a WILLIAMS based on info I have seen in the 1880 census of Shelby Co. I would appreciate any leads or info. Thanks...John Lowery

Well, Like some I wasn't going to get involved but I just couldn't help myself because my husband and I graduated from a High School in Nacogdoches Co.,(East Texas) and our children were born in Nacogdoches Co. I agree with Tom as to the boundaries of East Texas. We are now in Pasadena Texas (Stinkadena). We are trying our best to get back to "God's country." The air is so fresh and clean there. Amazing. My husband also says, "you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy;" We are proud to be from East Texas and will be back there one day. Tom Dunklin wrote: > Sherry, > So good to hear from someone who really knows where East Texas is > located. Speaking for myself, this old gal lived in Henderson, Tx all > my life and was taught early on where East Texas was. Like you, most > everyone in our area called East TX anyplace in between Livingston to > the south and Longview to the north and Palestine to the west. And > believe me, the East Texas accent is real. I can't tell you how many > times I've been visiting in the Western states and had people come up to > me and TELL me that I was from East Texas. When asked how they knew, > they always said they could tell by my accent! And to this day, I > wouldn't change a "thang." The pine sap still runs in my vein to this > day and some day I'll tell Houston goodbye and finally go back home.