At http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/registra/certcop.htm#request you will find (among other info): "Certified copies of birth and death records are available at the Texas Bureau of Vital Statistics. Birth and Death Records are available from 1903 to the present. However, it was not until 1910 that records were required to be forwarded to the state. To obtain information prior to 1903 you may wish to contact the Archives Library, or the County Clerk's Office in the county where the birth or death event took place." Since your people died Jan. 1916, this would be a good place to go. Cause of death is usually on the certificate. A cheaper avenue of investigation would be at the county records - I don't know if Nacogdoches County kept a copy of the death certificates or not, some do. Good Luck! Paula >>Does anyone know of an epidemic of any kind in Nacogdoches County in 1915 or 1916? I had four members of one family die in January 1916. Two on the same date.<< R D Carnley

I am currently taking an Expatriot Literature course (American authors living abroad, or influenced by the Parisian writing climate), and this same subjet came up. All of our famous American poets and writers of the period lived in England/Paris and a lot of their stuff contains this particular disaster. It was very interesting after having seen part of the Discovery channel presentation. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Hay <tracers@imagin.net> To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: flu epidemic >1918 - Worldwide [high point year] Influenza: more people were >hospitalized >> > in WWI >> > from this epidemic than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps, >> > with >> > 80% death rate in some camps. >> > >One of my ancestors was lost during this flu epidemic in Dallas County, >TX just one week before he was supposed to go into the Army. >Brenda >CENSUS ONLINE & OTHER DIGGINS >http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm >As seen at WW Top 100 Genealogy Sites >http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=tracer > >

I don't know how they pin pointed the Spanish flu thing; I only was able to hear the last part of the program. It was very sad. Karen -----Original Message----- From: JRose10700@aol.com <JRose10700@aol.com> To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Epidemic > >I could be wrong -- I am no doctor nor medical practitioner of any kind. But >it seems to me that typhoid "epidemics" are local. That is, an infected well >or small stream, for instance, carries the typhoid germ and everyone who >drinks from it may become ill. But they are usually localized and the >sickness does not spread far beyond the use of that particular source of >water. >As for source of Spanish flu. How can anyone 80 years later pinpoint its >source to one specific location, like Fort Riley? I don't understand. >love >joan > >

1918 - Worldwide [high point year] Influenza: more people were hospitalized > > in WWI > > from this epidemic than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps, > > with > > 80% death rate in some camps. > > One of my ancestors was lost during this flu epidemic in Dallas County, TX just one week before he was supposed to go into the Army. Brenda CENSUS ONLINE & OTHER DIGGINS http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm As seen at WW Top 100 Genealogy Sites http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=tracer

In East Texas during the time frame mentioned there was the influenza epidemic that had spread like a forest fire throughout the states. Also there was outbreaks of Yellow Fever. One of the big killers in the area because of the rivers and creeks that were spiderwebbing through those settlements, was malaria. Malaria was a common, dangerous fever claiming lives right and left. Since it wasn't a "peaking" illness like the epidemics, it is forgotten in some research and historys of the area. There were also the considerations of child bearing mothers being diabetic, which took it's toll on newborns being premature and weak. If the babies did survive, they were at a disadvantage of low immunity to colds and pneumonia and their deaths were caused by dehydration. Some of these were diagnosed as "Spring or Summer Complaint", which was like a stomach virus causing dehydration. Another killer of babies and children not reaching the age of 6 was the RH factor that wasn't even considered at that time. My grandmother had two babies stillborn and jaundice and two babies that died by the time they were two years old. They called them "blue babies". Twenty years later, when she had to have surgery for appendix, she was told that she had the RH factor and the doctors were surprised that she had 9 living children. These are just some of the common ailments that would be complicated by not having the life saving medications that we consider today. The medical treatments at that time could have done wonders if they just would have had asprin to give the patients, if a doctor was available at all.

The flu epidemic you spoke of was so severe that it spread world wide and millions and millions died from it. The Europeans could not determine at the time the origin of the flue strain, but assumed it came from Spain, maybe since that is where people started dying first. It actually was only a couple of years ago that the origin of the Spanish Flue as it was called then was pinpointed. It began at Ft. Riley, North Carolina. It was on Discovery Channel. Hope this information helps. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Ypmiller50@cs.com <Ypmiller50@cs.com> To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, February 05, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: Re: epidemic >In a message dated 02/05/2000 1:44:03 PM Central Standard Time, >erlabri@home.com writes: > ><< Maybe my memory is way off... but wasn't there a hurricane in 1915? I >suppose that those living in the area could have been exposed to typhoid or >other diseased after an event like that. > > Jan G. > > Ypmiller50@cs.com wrote: > > In a message dated 02/04/2000 9:11:09 PM Central Standard Time, >RDCarnley@aol.com writes: > >Does anyone know of an epidemic of any kind in Nacogdoches County in 1915 or >1916? >I had four members of one family die in January 1916. Two on the same date. >>> > >Jan, >I looked in the Texas Almanac and there was a Hurricane 1915, but it was in >August, so this is after the deaths mentioned above. That's a good thought, >though, don't know what else it could be. >Yolanda Pepper Miller > >

I could be wrong -- I am no doctor nor medical practitioner of any kind. But it seems to me that typhoid "epidemics" are local. That is, an infected well or small stream, for instance, carries the typhoid germ and everyone who drinks from it may become ill. But they are usually localized and the sickness does not spread far beyond the use of that particular source of water. As for source of Spanish flu. How can anyone 80 years later pinpoint its source to one specific location, like Fort Riley? I don't understand. love joan

Maybe my memory is way off... but wasn't there a hurricane in 1915? I suppose that those living in the area could have been exposed to typhoid or other diseased after an event like that. Jan G. Ypmiller50@cs.com wrote: > > In a message dated 02/04/2000 9:11:09 PM Central Standard Time, > RDCarnley@aol.com writes: > > << Does anyone know of an epidemic of any kind in Nacogdoches County > in 1915 or 1916? > I had four members of one family die in January 1916. Two on the same > date. >> > I don't know if you received an answer to your question yet, but I do know > the following information about an influenza epidemic, 1918 being the > highpoint year of it, your family may have been on the beginning side of it. > Hope it helps. > SOURCE: Epidemics Through Time. > 1918 - Worldwide [high point year] Influenza: more people were hospitalized > in WWI > from this epidemic than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps, > with > 80% death rate in some camps. > > Yolanda Pepper Miller

In a message dated 02/05/2000 1:44:03 PM Central Standard Time, erlabri@home.com writes: << Maybe my memory is way off... but wasn't there a hurricane in 1915? I suppose that those living in the area could have been exposed to typhoid or other diseased after an event like that. Jan G. Ypmiller50@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 02/04/2000 9:11:09 PM Central Standard Time, RDCarnley@aol.com writes: Does anyone know of an epidemic of any kind in Nacogdoches County in 1915 or 1916? I had four members of one family die in January 1916. Two on the same date. >> Jan, I looked in the Texas Almanac and there was a Hurricane 1915, but it was in August, so this is after the deaths mentioned above. That's a good thought, though, don't know what else it could be. Yolanda Pepper Miller

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In a message dated 02/04/2000 9:11:09 PM Central Standard Time, RDCarnley@aol.com writes: << Does anyone know of an epidemic of any kind in Nacogdoches County in 1915 or 1916? I had four members of one family die in January 1916. Two on the same date. >> I don't know if you received an answer to your question yet, but I do know the following information about an influenza epidemic, 1918 being the highpoint year of it, your family may have been on the beginning side of it. Hope it helps. SOURCE: Epidemics Through Time. 1918 - Worldwide [high point year] Influenza: more people were hospitalized in WWI from this epidemic than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps, with 80% death rate in some camps. Yolanda Pepper Miller

Today at SFA's Research library in Nacogdoches they had a new book. GENEALOGICAL ABSTRACTS OF WOOD CO. TX, NEWSPAPERS BEFORE 1920. Written by the Wood County Genealogical Society. I was so excited to find a partial Obituary for my great great grandmother Nancy Isham. It was on page 169. Top of page says DEMOCRAT-1916. Titled "Obituary" Mrs. ISHAM was born April third 1856........died Nov. 21, 1916... Does anyone know how I can get the full copy. It stated she had three children who had already passed on..we only knew of two. And hopefully it lists names of the remaining family. Thanks to all who put this book out. What a great service and pleasure you have done for us.. Any help will be greatly appreciated and Im willing to pay for the copies ect. Thanks, Sherry Douglas

Does anyone know of an epidemic of any kind in Nacogdoches County in 1915 or 1916? I had four members of one family die in January 1916. Two on the same date. R D Carnley

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I am trying to find information for a friend. Does anyone know anything about an accident involving a hand car and a train somewhere around Kilgore in the late 1800s or early 1900s. The person she is trying to find info on is William Henry Baughman. He supposedly hitched a ride on the handcar and it was involved in an accident and he was killed. She would realy appreciate anything about this. Just email me at mwood404@aol.com and I will give her the info as she doesn't have a computer. Thanks in advance. Geneva

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