Looking for connection to gr-gr-grandpa THOMAS MICAJAH HART b15 Jan 1816 Greene Co. NC d. 22 Sept. 1864 Jasper Co. Tx. md Sophia Tyson . Children: Emily b abt 1839 Pitt NC Elbert b abt 1841 Pitt NC Absola b abt 1843 Pitt NC Nathan Micajah b 21 May 1844 Pitt NC William Henry b 1846 Macon GA Alvania b 1 Oct 1847 Jasper TX Louvisa Annenettie b 1850 Jasper TX Sarah Elizabeth b 19 Oct 1852 (my gr-grandmother) Jasper TX Adaline b 12 Aug 1854 Jasper TX Gilbertine Sophy b 27 Mar 1857 Jasper TX Monroe Livingston b 20 Apr 1859 Jasper TX Caroline b 30 Oct 1861 Jasper TX Noah Tyson b 29 Dec 1863 would appreciate ANY help on any of these children. Jane Sanford Keppler Listowner for Shelby County & Montgomery County

One persons junk is someone elses treasure. I belong to several lists. Each morning I download between 40 to 170 messages. I, also, must be brutal in deleting anything that does not appear to be of direct interest. On occasion I'll note something I believe might be of interest in the future and that one message, such as a URL, will go into a special holding tank where it will stay for several days. By that time I have usually decided on its worth and forth wit delete it or move it to a permanent home. Rather than cry about none interesting mail perhaps those so inclined might like to join a bridge club. Keep looking UP. Angus Robinson angus@pla-net.net

>IS IT REALLY NECESSARY FOR YOUR SERVICE TO EMAIL EVERY MEMBER WITH EACH AND >EVERY PIECE OF EMAIL THAT PASSES THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM. > >WHY AM I GETTING EMAIL FROM ONE MEMBER THAT IS AN ANSWER TO ANOTHER'S >POSTING?? THAT KIND OF MAIL DOES NOT CONCERN ME AND JUST JUNKS UP MY MAIL >BOX. > >IF THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT IS TO UNSCRIBE, THEN UNSCRIBE ME. > >J PAT SMITH >DENHAM SPRINGS LA Pat ... this is the way mail lists work. I am on several and get over 200 posts each day. I work full time and then have a part time job, so I have to be *brutal* when I read my mail -- if I can't quickly tell that I'm interested, I toss it -- otherwise I'd be overwhelmed! The various genealogy lists are full of some of the most helpful and kind people you could ever hope to meet. A little patience and an attempt to understand how and why the lists work as they do would likely reward you with some valuable information and some new-found internet friends. [P.S. I would guess that many of the members of the list found the tone of your post offensive and you may have received some heated responses. Please don't let that dissuade you from joining us -- I'd just suggest you be a little more careful and remember that the list is _people_, not a machine.) regards, Tom Cloud <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu>

Would the person looking for Hugh Goodwin please get back to me the information you do have. Arl-La-Tex. I May have stumbled onto him. Ley ========================================================= GOODWIN, RUSSELL, MURRAY, KEENER, WINN(E), WYNN(E), BEAN(E) BEEN(E), STANLEY TX<ARK<LA<MISS<TENN<VA<NC AND for MY DA ----- O'CONNOR CA<ILL<MICH<CAN<IRL I love you Da, Angel on my shoulder. Ira James O'Connor Sept 16, 1915-Nov. 27, 1996 Ley O'Connor ROOTSWEB list-owner GOODWIN FAMILY to Subscribe Carson City, Nevada 89706 <A HREF="http://www.roots web.com/~maillist/surnames/surnames-g.html">Surname/Family Lists G</A> 702-246-0918 CASHEL3776@aol.com

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For some CALCOTE family information, you might want to call: Mr. Billie Sizemore Hobbs, NM 505-393-4804 HIs father was James Madison SIZEMORE, m to Myrtle Lucille CALCOTTE, 1 Sept 1887 in San Augustine, TX. Myrtle is a descendant of William Cade CALCOTE, b 23 May 1797, d 24 Oct 1873, m 4 May1815 to Mary ELLISON. William was a son of John CALCOTE, Sr., and Catherine was his sister, married to Moses King 16 Oct 1823. I do not have information on Moses & Catherine, however, Bill may know something. He has Calcote Family Group records prepared in the 1970's that he might be willing to share with you - suggest that you be willing to pay the copy and postage costs involved. Good luck.... J Pat Smith Denham Springs LA E TX Roots are SMITH/REILLY/SIZEMORE/MUCKLEROY; SAN AUGUSTINE/NACOGDOCHES

Hello, Would someone who will be going to their LDS center soon mind looking something up for me? I have a very old family group sheet (from 1983) that a cousin sent to me that she got from the LDS records. This information was submitted to the LDS center. I am hoping that there has been an update, and I might be able to gain information, or be put into contact with another family member researching this line. These are Texas records. To spare everyone on the list, please email me so I can give you the details. Thanks so much shirley larson laurco@mail.ez-sys.net

Would someone from the Tyler Genealogical Society please contact me? Bill Stockman Bernalillo, NM

If we are talking East Tx, we must have some Dial researchers. Maybe someone can help me sort them all out. These are our Dials: Thomas WAlker b. 1792 AL, m. Charlotte Dial (dau of Abner Dial) b. 1804 LA. Their son Andrew Jackson Walker married Azalene Dial and his brother Amos married Matilda "Puss" Dial. Azzie and Puss were daughters of Louis Dial and Harriet Sweat, and born in LA. Louis Dial was the son of Aaron Dial. Abner and Aaron would both have been born circa 1775, could they be brothers? Louis and Harriet had another daughter, Mary "Polly" who married Carl August Johnson, and we believe he is related to our Johnson line, but don't have any further info to tie him into the Johnsons that lived around and married the Johnson clan from LA to Trinity Co. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I'd certainly be glad to share what I have. Sandy

MOSES KING b. abt 1820 MS, married CATHERINE CALCOATE, and they had at least one son, JAMES C. KING. James married SARAH GOFF abt 1856 in Polk Co., TX. One of their younger children JAMES ANDREW KING was b. 1861 Walker Co. James C. and Sarah both died young, and James Andrew was raised by older brothers and sisters. James Andrew married Nora Jane WAlker (previously married to Charlie Hellums) in Caldwell Co. in 1893. Nora was the daughter of Thomas WAlker Jr, b. 1831 LA (prob. Rapides Parish) and Nancy Martha Biggs b. 1841 LA. Thomas and Nancy were in Tyler Co. at the 1850 census. do any of these names ring a bell with anyone? These folks sure got around alot, and are hard to pin down. Sandy

I am looking for a marriage date for James C. King and Sarah Goff, Polk Co. TX circa 1856. Are there records available for that time? Sandy

X-No-Archive: Yes Then Pam Let's see you put your money where your good sensitivities are Let's see you post this message and SUPPORT it! chas On 2 May 1997 08:37:09 -0700, in soc.genealogy.computing john@meertech.demon.co.uk wrote: Archive-name: genealogy/netiquette Posting-Frequency: 1st of the month Last-Modified: 1997/01/02 Version: 1.7 URL: http://www.meertech.demon.co.uk/genuki/netiquet.htm Basic newsgroup and mailing list "Netiquette" --------------------------------------------- Summary ~~~~~~~ This is a regular posting which outlines the basic newsgroup and mailing list "Netiquette" which should be followed by anyone who wishes to post to the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy of newsgroups and mailing lists. This document is part of a regular series of postings which are sent to all appropriate groups and mailing lists. This particular document is posted on the first of every month. The latest version of this document is available from the following locations * Via the WWW at the URL http://www.meertech.demon.co.uk/genuki/netiquet.htm * Via email by sending the following text in the body of a message to listserv@meertech.demon.co.uk get netiquet If you have any comments or additions, or would like to suggest further topics to be included, then please contact John Woodgate, (john@meertech.demon.co.uk) Contributions by: Tim Pierce, Pat Boren, Alf Christophersen, William Mills, Richard Pence, Hugh Ainsley, Alexandre Meissonnier, Randy Klear, Dave Sadler, Carl Cason, Margaret J. Olson. Changes For This Version (1.7 - 1997/01/02) Added Dealing with Junk mail Copyright And Disclaimer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Copyright (c) 1996,1997 by John Woodgate. All rights reserved. This document may be freely redistributed in its entirety without modification provided that this copyright notice is not removed. It may not be sold for profit or incorporated in commercial documents without the prior written permission of the copyright holder. Permission is expressly granted for this document to be made available for file transfer from installations offering unrestricted anonymous file transfer on the Internet. This document is provided AS IS without any express or implied warranty. The author may be contacted at 50 Great Meadow Road, Bradley Stoke, Bristol, BS12 8DA, England. Contents ~~~~~~~~ * Common Courtesies * Patience and Tolerance * Subject Lines * Personal Privacy * Requests For Information * Replying To A Message * Signature Files * Mailing Lists * Attaching Files * Dealing with Junk Mail * Further Information Common Courtesies ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Read carefully what you receive to make sure that you understand the message. Read carefully what you send, to make sure that your message will not be misunderstood. Know your audience. Make sure that the person or list of people you are sending your message to are right ones to be communicating with. Many readers have very limited, and in some cases expensive electronic mail facilities. Be particularly careful not to cause unnecessary traffic, or to send unnecessary long messages. Please DO NOT send "test messages." The system works. If you must test it, at least send a valid message, with useful information or questions. In fact there is a newsgroup called misc.test, set up specifically for test messages. If you post to this group, you will get email responses from a number of servers around the world which will allow you to judge how quickly and thoroughly your posts propagate. Patience And Tolerance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Remember that not all readers have English as their native language, so make allowance for possible misunderstandings and unintended discourtesies. Remember that the absence of visual clues normally associated with face to face communication provides an ideal environment for being misunderstood. Be tolerant of newcomers. None of us were born knowing all. If you are using humour or sarcasm, make sure to clearly label it as such. Humour is usually indicated by a smiley e.g. :) or (grin). Subject Lines ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Always include a descriptive subject line in your message. Use the Subject: line to get attention and make sure it describes the main point of your message. Avoid very long subjects as some newsreaders only display the first 30 characters or so. If you are seeking information about a family, include the surname in UPPERCASE in the Subject: line. Remember that with many messages each week, many people use the subject line to decide if they should read your message or not. "Need help" or "Genealogy" are not good subject lines. Likewise, not everybody who reads this newsgroup lives in the same country as you. Please give an indication of the country or countries you are interested in together with a date range. Keep messages to only one subject. Second subjects within a single message are often missed. The information contained in the subject line should also be included in the message itself as some news readers display the subject line on a different screen to the message body. Personal privacy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please be careful about the information you post to the newsgroup or the mailing list. For example, if somebody asks you to look up some names and addresses in the local telephone directory, send the results directly to the requester. Please be very careful about the amount of detail you post to the world. Consider if you would like to have the details of your birth, particularly if your parents weren't married at the time, broadcast to the world. And that is quite mild compared to some of the skeletons you might dig up. As use of the Internet grows, we are beginning to see it being abused. Please think carefully before you post private details about yourself, or any present day individual to the world. Request For Information ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be specific, especially when asking questions. If you ask about a person, identify when and where the person might have lived. You are much more likely to get a helpful reply if your message summarizes what efforts you have already made yourself to find the answer to your question. Please do not post to this newsgroup or mailing list messages which should be more appropriately addressed to one of the other groups in the soc.genealogy hierarchy. And please avoid posting the same message to several newsgroups or mailing lists in the hierarchy, except when its content is equally relevant to each such newsgroup. Avoid cluttering your message with excessive emphasis (such as stars, exclamation marks "!", etc). It can make the message hard to follow. For straightforward queries which are simply seeking further information about a particular surname, or a named individual, it is recommended that the newsgroup soc.genealogy.surnames be used rather than any other newsgroup or mailing list. This is because soc.genealogy.surnames is a moderated as well as archived newsgroup. The moderators ensure that subject lines are given in an informative and stylized format, providing details of dates and locations as well as the surname in question. This is aimed at facilitating searches of the entire large archive of messages that have ever been sent to the newsgroup, searching for all messages which relate to a given family. For those people who are restricted to using email only, the soc.genealogy.surnames newsgroup is also available as the GENNAM-L mailing list. You can send messages to it by using the address GENNAM-L@mail.eworld.com Please keep line lengths to about 72 characters to avoid problems with word wrap on replies. Most mail programs prepend the included lines with a '> '. It doesn't take many replies to extend the line over the normal 80 characters display size. Replying to a message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Feel free to answer questions or provide clarification or comments in response to any posting you see on the newsgroup or mailing list. However, please "FOLLOW-UP" to the posting ONLY if you think your comments will be of interest to other readers and you wish your answer sent to all the newsgroup and mailing list readers. Otherwise please use the 'Reply' function on your newsreader to respond directly to the poster. If your newsreader doesn't allow 'Reply', note the e-mail address of the original poster and send an e-mail directly to that person. If you want to start a personal correspondence with the poster of a message, look in the header of the note and find the "FROM:" or "REPLY TO:" field where you will find that person's email address. You can then send your note directly to that person. Many newsreaders and mail programs provide easy means of replying to the poster of a particular message, and/or of posting a follow-up message, handling all the complications of message addressing automatically. Please make sure that you do not post a follow-up message accidentally, when your intention was merely to reply directly to the poster. If you are responding to a message, either include the relevant part of the original message, or make sure you unambiguously refer to the original contents. It is very common for people to read your reply before they read the original message. However, please avoid unnecessarily lengthy quotations from the messages to which you are responding. One point to bear in mind is that most Internet Service Providers delete messages after 2 or 3 days. You cannot rely on any one message being received by another subscriber. It is this very lack of permenance which makes it vital to register any surnames you are interested in in the soc.genealogy.surnames newsgroup so that it can be added to the archive. Signature Files ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Always 'sign' your message with your name and your preferred e-mail address. This is especially important because some e-mail and newsreader software do not always convey the originator's full e-mail address. While you may certainly include your regular mail address in your postings, you may wish to give this out only in personal replies, when necessary. Please DO NOT include a list of the surnames you are researching in your signature file. If the messages are archived (and most newsgroups are archived) and somebody is searching for your surname, they need to find it only once; hopefully it will have your address with it as well. If they are searching, and get too many hits, then they may not request all the messages and therefore may miss seeing your message. Mailing Lists ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some newsgroups are also linked, or gatewayed, to a mailing list. This means the all messages sent to the newsgroup are also sent to the mailing list. Thus people who can only use email can still take part in the discussions. There is always a separate email address to send messages to the mailing list to that you use to subscribe, or talk to the computer. The computer often uses the name LISTSERV or LISTPROC. The mailing list address will be something list GENUKI-L, or GENMSC-L. If you use the wrong address, you will end up sending messages to the computer, which will ignore them, and commands to the mailing list, which EVERYBODY will see. Attaching Files ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of the newer mail and news programs provide a mechanisim which will allow you to 'attach' a file to your message. This can be a photo, a sound recording or even a complete family history book in your favourite word processor format. Even if you are sure everybody will be able to read it, the odds are that once it has passed through the internet it will be impossible to for anybody to understand without a lot of work. Please don't do it. Sending GEDCOM files, Tiny Tafels, Decendent lists and any large lists should also be avoided. Not everybody has access to the Internet via their workplace or college. Some people have to pay for their access time. Downloading large files which they are not going to be interested in is a waste of their time and money. Much better to post a short message saying that you have the information if they are interested and then send it to just those people who request it. Including files in any format other than straight ASCII is to be avoided. The use of uuencoded files, zipped files or even HTML files are likely to mean that nobody will read your message. In some groups it will result in the message being rejected. Dealing with Junk mail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is an unfortunate fact of life that with the expansion of the Internet we are all likely to receive junk mail at some point. Because the majority of the newsgroups and mailing lists are not moderated, then there is little that can be done to automatically stop these messages. So what can you do when you recieve junk mail? Firstly, do not post a message to the newsgroup or mailing list that it arrived in. This will just increase the 'noise' in the group or list. If the message came directly to you, then you are in a better position to do something. Here are a list of suggested steps you might take: * Never buy anything from someone who sends you unsolicited advertising by email. Many of these offers are fraudulent and the advertising method is by definition, underhand. If nobody bought from them, they would quickly stop. * Learn how to reveal the 'full headers' in a mail message. This will show you the route the message took to you. Most mail systems show just the basic information ("To", "From", "Subject", "Date", etc). Even if the "From" address shows as spammer@aol, the message may not have come from AOL, the advertiser may not ever have had an account on AOL. By examining the full headers, in the vast majority of cases you can see where the message really came from. * Forward the message, including the full headers, to the services that handled the message complaining that you don't want such mail. Send it to the following addresses: abuse@[domain] and postmaster@[domain]. For example, if the message came through Interramp, then send the messages to abuse@interramp.com, and postmaster@interramp.com. Why two addresses? Many ISPs don't have an 'abuse' address; If they don't then you should encourage them to implement one. They are all required to have a postmaster account. * If the postmaster gets thousands of complaints about this kind of activity, then they will soon realize that it is not worth it to allow these kinds of people to access their systems. If you want your message to to be taken seriously, then be polite. Verbal abuse could lose you your account! Other types of junk mail include chain mail, virus warnings and the like. If you get a message that requests, often urgently, that you spread the message far and wide, that's a good sign to delete it. These often claim that they are 'helping a good cause', like the cancer struck kid that wanted to get into the Guinness Book of Records by getting as many cards in the mail as possible. The child exists and got 16 MILLION cards in the first year - 1990! The virus warnings mails are fake too and keep going despite being years old. The 'Good Times', 'Deeyenda', 'Irina' and 'Ghost.exe' warnings are all hoaxes and spreading them around causes nothing but resource drains, bother ans sometimes panic in the people you send them to. Further Information ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you want more information, there is a very good web page on Netiquette at the URL <http://www.fau.edu/rinaldi/netiquette.html> On the topic of junk mail, take a look at the following URLs * http://www.crew.umich.edu/~chymes/newusers/Think.html * http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html * http://www.vix.com/spam/ --------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Netiquette / V1.7 - 1997/01/02 / john@meertech.demon.co.uk _______________________________________ Charles L Hamilton (chasm@insync.net) Houston, TX X-No-Archive: Yes

X-No-Archive: Yes On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 15:46:12 -0400 (EDT), JPATCATS@aol.com wrote: )IS IT REALLY NECESSARY FOR YOUR SERVICE TO EMAIL EVERY MEMBER WITH EACH AND )EVERY PIECE OF EMAIL THAT PASSES THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM. ) )WHY AM I GETTING EMAIL FROM ONE MEMBER THAT IS AN ANSWER TO ANOTHER'S )POSTING?? THAT KIND OF MAIL DOES NOT CONCERN ME AND JUST JUNKS UP MY Lord, this is too funny You have never been on an elist before also, judging by your rude use of all caps, you are a total newbie to the internet. I should send you the netiquette file but I doubt that you would read it. good bye and please don't come back until you do learn to use the inet and that means finding and reading the netiquette file. MAIL )BOX. ) )IF THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT IS TO UNSCRIBE, THEN UNSCRIBE ME. ) )J PAT SMITH )DENHAM SPRINGS LA ) _______________________________________ Charles L Hamilton (chasm@insync.net) Houston, TX X-No-Archive: Yes

IS IT REALLY NECESSARY FOR YOUR SERVICE TO EMAIL EVERY MEMBER WITH EACH AND EVERY PIECE OF EMAIL THAT PASSES THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM. WHY AM I GETTING EMAIL FROM ONE MEMBER THAT IS AN ANSWER TO ANOTHER'S POSTING?? THAT KIND OF MAIL DOES NOT CONCERN ME AND JUST JUNKS UP MY MAIL BOX. IF THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT IS TO UNSCRIBE, THEN UNSCRIBE ME. J PAT SMITH DENHAM SPRINGS LA

Howdy, I am searching for my brothers father WILLIAM GARRISON. We think he may have died in Fort Worth Texas. We found a date JULY 1983 from social security index. I was wondering if anyone has access to the FORT WORTH newspapers to look up his obituary for the date given.We need to see if this WILLIAM GARRISON was in the COAST GUARD. I will be happy to TRADE information. I have access to WASHINGTON STATE DEATH INDEX and certificates up to the 1970's. Also lots of information in CLARK COUNTY WASHINGTON. If anyone who is willing to swap.I will pay postage, etc.. It is very IMPORTANT to find my brothers dad. I would appreciate this for ever!!! Thank you so much! Sally Jackson rvalong@pacifier.com

>From the Listowner: Hi, folks, Just a couple of reminders. I know that everyone is swamped with too much email and can get very sensitive about it. But I have been so proud of EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS members for being so friendly and helpful and for basically staying on topic, but even responding helpfully when someone asked a somewhat off-topic question. Lately, a couple of times I've noticed someone has left a message that I am sure was intended to go privately, and there have been a few questions and other things that haven't been directly on topic, but nothing that has gotten at all out of hand. Recently, though, someone expressed, in large caps, distress with off-topic conversations on the list, and someone else responded, again, publicly, and with some impatience and unfriendliness. I want to nip this kind of thing in the bud. I've written privately to each individual. Let's not continue the controversy on the list, okay? And, if someone writes something that doesn't seem appropriate, write to me privately, and I will see what I can do. Please don't respond to the list itself, or write an unfriendly private note to the person. Remember that what you are trying to accomplish is to have this list be on topic and full of helpful information. Neither a public nor a private *unfriendly* note is likely to accomplish that. Please do remember that in almost *all* cases people's intentions are good. People who don't realize all caps is shouting are glad to stop when they realize it. People who post off topic messages to the list have usually done so inadvertently. And so on. Most of all, folks let's continue our tradition of friendly, helpful East Texas hospitality, okay? *********** Other topics: The *Computer Interest Group* of the Nacogdoches Genealogical Society will meet this coming Tuesday 17 June at 7 p.m. in the Parlor (the normal meeting room) of the First United Methodist Church. We'll have a question-and-answer session especially on genealogy software. Everyone is welcome. There are way over 250 of us on EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS now. In addition, some of the counties we have been covering are getting their own mailing lists. Those who are researching in Shelby and Sabine counties now have that as an added resource -- you are certainly welcome to stay here, too, of course. Check the Shelby and Sabine Co Genweb pages for those counties for further information. There is a Surname registry on the Nacogdoches Genweb site now. I am not going to assume you want your email address associated with any particular surname, though, unless you specifically submit it for the Surname registry. If you put your email address next to a particular surname, then you will undoubtedly hear from quite a few other people who are researching that name. Be sure that the name you want to add is one where you have Nacogdoches County connections. If you are researching a particular surname, but the only connection you have to it is in New England or California, it doesn't belong on the Nacogdoches page. But if you have a Nacogdoches connection to that surname, and want to have it in the registry, let me know and I will put it up. Submit to webpsalms@iname.com. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Listowner EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS webpsalms@iname.com

Over a year ago "The Family Tree" had an article on 'Save Texas Cemeteries', reported to be "a state wide nonprofit educational corporation to promote the preservation of historic cemeteries and burialgrounds throughout Texas." As anyone tried to contact them? Has anyone had any success doing so. I have tried by writing STC, PO 202975, Austin, TX 78720-2975. I even talked to a person connected with STC, but I can not get them to send me anything. If you have been able to get anything from them I would like to know how you did it. Thanks. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX

Scott, Leave the file with the extension GED and open it in Family treemaker. FTW will convert the file to ftw format and give you the option of tags to import. Good luck, Debra

In a message dated 97-06-10 14:05:10 EDT, you write: << Will share my files. Genevieve Williams Buckaloo ginger 36@msn.com Interested in Nacogdoches families as follows: Bell, Rector, Scroggins and Buckaloo >> Dear Genevieve, I'm responding to the surname BELL that you are researching. I have a Catherine Elizabeth KOLB b. c1863 Germany who had a son out of wedlock, William C. KOLB b 1885 Nacogdoches. She subsequently married a ____(possibly John) BELL in Nacogdoches between 1885 and 1900. She had three children by BELL, one a Tom BELL of Traywick. I don't know the other two children's names. In 1900, Catherine Elizabeth KOLB BELL was committed to the Terrell State Hospital in Terrell, Kaufman County, Texas. She had three minor children at the time. Catherine died at the hospital in 1947, apparently never leaving. The only family contact listed on her hospital records was a J.H. SEELBACH of Garrison, Texas (her brother-in-law who married her sister, Clarrissa Ann KOLB). I have much information on the KOLBs and SEELBACHs, but none on BELL and was wondering if these BELL names were familiar to you. Regards, Debra

At 01:30 AM 6/12/97 -0400, CASHEL3776@aol.com wrote: >I recieved this info from mu Mom. It amy help quite a few of us out. > >A branch of the Census Bureau will assist researchers in obtaining census >records from the 1930-1990 Federal returns for any person from whom you can >supply proff of death. "Age Search will, for $25, search any two (2) census >records. The search is limited to the person for whom you are requesting >information, but you may ask for other family members to be included for a $2 >per person fee. The full line of information from the census return will be >provided with payment of a $6 fee. The basic fee includes ans official >document stating the person's name, age, place of birth, citizenship and >relationship to the head of the household. <SNIP>....<SNIP> The prices quoted may be out of date -- their web page has higher prices: http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/agesearch.html When I had the Census Bureau search for me back in the 1970's it only cost $10. Joy Fisher jfisher@ucla.edu