I was ready to quit the east Texas list, until I read your e-mail...I agree, there is too much chit, chat. We have the right to zap any e-mail that does not seem important. I am connected with Freestone County (Is that in East Texas?) I think so, I want to hear form those folks...and many others. If there are some who are not happy, they should quit. Brown

Hello All, Can someone enlighten me, as to when and how the county boundries changed? I'm really confused on this matter. One more question: After the boundries changed, in which county should I be searching for records? Here are the counties I'm needing help with: Hardin, Tyler, Newton, Jasper, Liberty, Atatasco, etc. Basically, the counties that would affect Hardin or Tyler Counties. Any input is greatly appreciated. Feel free to e-mail me privately, if needed. Pam === Jas Hampton O 1822 AL>Daniel O 1855 AL>Mary Eboline O 1875 AL> and William F. Holmes 1836 TN>Robert W. Holmes 1867 TX>Clayton Holmes 1903 TX>Glenn Holmes 1931 TX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Lets get on with genealogy research and stop trying to analyze peoples speech percularity. You know you can't hear them by email. JIMMY ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 7:34 PM Subject: Ya'll > Well I bet the one that wrote that book that yawl was in...must have been > from NYC. ya'll knows what i'm talking about if your from the south. Later > ya'll. > > ______________________________

I missed the first message about Barnette's books but just to tell you what I know. Mic Barnette is a great genealogist. He has a book store in an Antique Mall, and since he doesn't man it personally he has an answering machine, and he will answer all phone messages. He writes a genealogy article for the Houston Chronicle and he teaches classes. Also try this site to reach him. Thanks Bev Gill Barnes http://barnettesbooks.com

Hi, Mic is a friend of mine who travels and lectures on the family tree. Mic writes an article for the Houston Chronicle about tracing your family tree. Try going to his site for more information: http://www.barnettesbooks.com Thanks, Gerrie Jones Dickens [email protected] wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Made a call today and found out this about BARNETTE'S FAMILY TREE BOOKS > (genealogy) > > 1. It moved to: Antique Market, 1001 W. Loop N. > Houston, Tx 77055 > > 2. Phone #: 713-684-4633 (his answering machine) > 713-688-4211 (Antique Market > and they will > take messages and said he > checks quite > often for his messages) > > 3. E-MAIL: [email protected] > > Sorry, I could not retrieve any better information, but perhaps email him. > > I was trying to obtain a price list, but alias, he did not answer. > > I have had several emails from folks and the maps I purchased were only for a > particular state and the counties back then. I do not know if they have > any maps with just cemeteries listed......perhaps someone might know of a > site online that might have such an item, if not, maybe it planted a thought > for some one to accomplish such a feat. > > Good luck ! If I find any updated news, will let you know. > > Gwen

Let me 2nd this one. For anyone close enough to take advantage of its facilities, there is a Mormon Church in Longview, Texas which has a really nice little center. They have a good selection of printed matter, Microfiche & readers, & PC's with a decent collection of information on CD. Jerry Murdock ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 6:05 PM Subject: Re: places to look? > Ronda, > You might see if there is an LDS Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day > Saints) meeting house in your home town or another close town. They may have > a Family History Center. If a census exists on microfilm, they can get it for > you for a small fee. They also have access to other records that have been > microfilmed, such as land deed records, court records, marriage records, etc. > Occasionally, you can find biographries and genealogies of individuals who > may be connected to you. > Hope this helps you and everyone else on the list. > Allen :-) >

Pam Phillips mentioned in her letter today (28th) that the Nacogdoches County Genealogy Soc. was wanting to reprint the book "People of Nacogdoches County" if enough people were interested. I sent Pam a note but it came back because of a bad address and I no longer have her letter. Could someone tell me who to contact to place an order or give me Pam's correct E-Mail address. R D Carnley

Here is my info, (more than just a signature): William F. HOLMES, b. 1836 TN, d. 1917 in Tyler county Texas, married Lettie R. RICHARDSON in 1859 in Tyler county. Both are buried in the Fellowship Cemetery in Tyler County. Robert Washington HOLMES, b. 1867 in Hardin County, TX, (son of above), d. 1952 in Hardin County, married Mary Eboline OVERSTREET in 1888 in Hardin County (she was the dau. of Daniel "Dan" OVERSTREET). Both are buried in Fellowship Cemetery, Tyler County. Clayton HOLMES, b. 1903 in Hardin County, (son of above), d. 1949 in Hardin County, married Inez WALTERS in 1927 in Hardin County. (she was the dau. of John Daniel WALTERS & Dovie Gore). He is buried in Fellowship Cemetery in Tyler Co., and she is buried in the Holland Cemetery in Hardin County. Glenn HOLMES, b. 1931 in Hardin County, (son of above), married Bonnie Lorraine Savoy in 1958 in Hardin County, d. 1983 in Harris County, and is buried in the Holland Cemetery in Hardin County. Anyone have any connections? Pam ps. The O. in my signature line is for OVERSTREET. === Jas Hampton O 1822 AL>Daniel O 1855 AL>Mary Eboline O 1875 AL> and William F. Holmes 1836 TN>Robert W. Holmes 1867 TX>Clayton Holmes 1903 TX>Glenn Holmes 1931 TX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello all, I am pretty new at all of this. And I am about out of places to look. I need census for Troup & Meriweather CO.GA. they are not in line in the US census nor the GA. web pages that I found. Can any of you give me some ideas on where to look?? I see ya'll talking about church record, wills, & the such. Do you find any of this online. I am pretty stuck at this time, and am pretty much addicted or so I am told. But I can quit any time I want. It's not a problem I do it be cause I like it. I can stop. LOL Anyway I would appreciate any Ideas ya'll might have. I live in a small town and don't have a lot as for as a library goes. Thanks again, Ronda

Please pardon me, folks, as I did not intend to post again. In case you do not have a place near home to purchase maps: This packet of maps I purchased, LA 1810 - 1920 = 11 maps. The "original" boundary lines are in black, but under the "original" name of the Parish in lite gray, are the names of what that original became. In one instance, ATTAKAPAS became, Vermilion, St. Mary, Iberia, St. Martin, and Lafayette Parishes. On the front of these maps is the following: Map Guide to the U.S. Federal Censuses by William Thorndale & William Dollarhide. These maps are part of a series for each state. For a list of all states now complete, send a SASE to: American Genealogical Lending Library P O Box 244 Bountiful, UT 84010 Gwen

I'm a native West Texas. Some folks think we talk funny, too...Keep up the good work, Alice. I've had no trouble understanding you - and I never met a Cajun I didn't like!

I received a package from my Campbell cousin,Linda Sykes of Houston, this week with an old newspaper ad for the Limmerick Tavern that my gg grandfather owned in Leon Co. The newspaper was called the experiment in those days. I have thought that the saloon/cafe/grocery was probably in the town of Jewett and it was appearantly around for quite a few years. The article says that my gg grandfather William H.Campbell,who also went by Sport Houston,was resigning from his post at watching the corners since he was opening the Limmerick. I have four questions that I am hoping someone can help me with. #1) What type of job would watching the corners be? #2) Does anyone who lives in this area know of any futher info that I could get about the Limmerick and owners? #3) Are there tax records available for the 1850-1880's on businesses that are available to research? #4) Does anyone else have a connection to William H.Campbell,Duncan H.Campbell b.1872, Minnie (Virginia)Patrick,or Samuel Campbell(a tailor or baker in the same county).Sam had a retarded daughter and lived in Jewett at the time.His wife's name may have been Ima or Hulda and she may still be alive in an area nursing home. Another relative thinks that they recall a motel that the family owned in Buffalo called the Campbell Motel. Even a tidbit of info would be greatly appreciated. Karen Kerr

Hello,everyone, Thanks for all the messages of support sent to me privately. Much appreciated. Some people are having trouble unsubscribing. You should be able to unsubscribe yourself by sending a message to [email protected] with the word unsubscribe in the BODY of the message. Subject heading in this case doesn't matter. Please make sure you have added the -request at the end, which sends the unsubscribe request to the automated server. If you get back some kind of a message that says you could not be unsubbed because you are not on the list and you KNOW you are, the problem is that when you tried to unsub, you used an email address that was different from the one you are subscribed under. Even one letter will cause this problem. I have found some on msn who have had problems because they were subscribed with the word "classic" in their address. That's a good example of what I mean. If you get that letter, it doesn't come from me, it comes from the automated server. Send me a message to [email protected], and tell me your current email address in the body of your message. My current email program makes it difficult to find the headers and try to ferret out the address. If you have any ideas about how you might have been subscribed, please let me know, and I will work with you to try to get you unsubbed. I'm sorry that some have felt I have been unresponsive, and I am trying to make up for that now. Several people have asked about the Nacogdoches County Families book. I have to finish up an end of quarter financial report but look for all the information about the book here very shortly, including all the surnames included in it, and all of the details about ordering. Thanks again to ALL for your support and for all the wonderful contributions you make. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Listowner: East-Texas-Roots-L Email: [email protected]

Ronda, You might see if there is an LDS Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) meeting house in your home town or another close town. They may have a Family History Center. If a census exists on microfilm, they can get it for you for a small fee. They also have access to other records that have been microfilmed, such as land deed records, court records, marriage records, etc. Occasionally, you can find biographries and genealogies of individuals who may be connected to you. Hope this helps you and everyone else on the list. Allen :-)

I have information on John Henry McLeroy, his other wives, and his children. Also his ancestors back to John and Frances of Baltimore Co., MD in the early 1700s. All I have for Loula Gray is that she was born 30 June 1857 Mississippi (1900 census says May instead of June). Died 24 Jan 1914 (age 56). buried Timpson Woodlawn Cemetery, Center, Texas. They married (2nd marriage for him) November 21, 1883, Panola Co., Texas. That's all I have for her. The Children I have are: Lula Corine Carrie "Maud" Annie May Charles E. John B. Robert L. I may have slight differences in dates. I have some of their children. Corrections or explanations appreciated. Betty [email protected] wrote: > Seeking info on parents of Loula Gray, b. 6/1857 in MS, d. 1/24/1914 in > Timpson, Shelby Co., TX. She married John Henry McLeroy 11/1883 in Panola > Co. He was b. 1/1855 in GA and d. 3/15/1931 in Timpson. Both are buried in > the Timpson-Woodlawn Cem. They were parents of Maud (b. 1885), Annie (b. > 1886), Charles (b. 1889), John B. (b. 1893), Carrie (b. 1894), Loula H. (b. > 1896) and Robert L. (b. 1898). John Henry McLeroy was a Baptist circuit > preacher. Before his marriage to Loula Gray, he had been married to Larissa > Baker in 1877. I do not know if there were children from this union. He > married for a third time to Esther Cummins just a few months before his > death. According to one source, Loula's mother's given name may have been > Elvira. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. > > Sincerely, John Hull

Hello everyone, Made a call today and found out this about BARNETTE'S FAMILY TREE BOOKS (genealogy) 1. It moved to: Antique Market, 1001 W. Loop N. Houston, Tx 77055 2. Phone #: 713-684-4633 (his answering machine) 713-688-4211 (Antique Market and they will take messages and said he checks quite often for his messages) 3. E-MAIL: [email protected] Sorry, I could not retrieve any better information, but perhaps email him. I was trying to obtain a price list, but alias, he did not answer. I have had several emails from folks and the maps I purchased were only for a particular state and the counties back then. I do not know if they have any maps with just cemeteries listed......perhaps someone might know of a site online that might have such an item, if not, maybe it planted a thought for some one to accomplish such a feat. Good luck ! If I find any updated news, will let you know. Gwen

Okay yall, (just because I want to spell it that way), I am born and raised in Houston, Texas. My ancestors are from Lovelady, Texas / Houston County. If anybody has any info on Lovelady or where to get historical info I would love to hear it. Another thing I would like to mention is ebay. Ebay has hundreds of old pictures that are up for auction. Many of these pictures have no name on the back of them and the owner sells them sometimes for under a dollar. I have never sold anything on ebay, I have however made a few purchases, which I have been very satisfied. Just check to make sure the seller has lots of references next to there name. Also check and see if they list the shipping charge. If it does not state it in the description, and you think you might bid on this item, then please make sure you ask the seller first before you place your bid. Shipping charges are where they get you (that's just my opinion). To search for photo's just enter into the search menu one of the following: - cabinet photo - old photograph - family photo Its also fun the enter the surname you are researching. People have estate sales all the time on ebay and there maybe a family bible or other family info you are researching up for auction. Have fun. I am researching the surnames Calvert, Sullins, Bates, and Janda from Texas. Also researching the surname Balderson for Maryland. See Ya, Laura

Bill Covey (Creator of Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer and Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz) >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/3265/Welcome.html wrote: "....No Masonic Lodge exists in the world that will limit its membership to musicians or anything else for that matter. Your relative may have been a musician that belonged to a particular lodge but membership therein had nothing to do with the ability to play music. ======== My son gave me this response: >This may not necessarily be true. Since lodges choose their membership, they >can use whatever factors they choose in allowing people to join. There is a >lodge in Texas which prides itself on being a 'Hispanic' lodge. I think a lodge >which was made up of primarily musicians though, was probably one they >affiliated with after being raised in a normal lodge. > >Jack B. Pace >Sr. Technical Advisor >Davidson Communications >(713) 473-8888 <[email protected]> =============== BTW, I am trying to get a full membership list on the two early east Texas lodges so I can submit to you all the entire membership from Republic of Texas days. TTYL, Jackie Ashley Pace of Pasadena, TX http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/a/c/Jackie-A-PACE/index.html

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Well, I think that Steve, book or no book, is off base. You all is more like y'all, as in, "You all come see us." I still think that it is, "Y'all come to see us." Anyway, whenever I have seen it written in a book or an article, that is the way it is spelled. More like a contraction. Pat pam serda wrote: > FYI: According to my book, "How To Speak Southern", > written by Steve Mitchell, (whick I keep right next to > my Websters Dictionary), everyone has mispelled the > word that means "you all". The correct spelling is > 'YAWL'. > > Yawl have a good one!!! > > Pam >