They are listed on census records for the county. Betty [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 06/29/1999 10:44:52 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I too, would like some prison info, as I have a relative that was supposed > to > > > > have died in one in Texas on the Trinity river. > > If you are able to give this information, please post it to the list. How > does one get information about relatives who had prison records?

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Hello list, Do any of you know anything about a set of 2 books by the name of Brooks Of Honey and Butter about prominent families & plantations of Meriwether, CO. GA. ? Thanks Ronda

If they went to prison---they had a paper trail. One of my notorious relatives was gunned down before he got to prison,but he had quite a paper trail that I located at the Anderson CO.court house. Actually,while reading the transcripts from the trial of the men who ambushed my g uncle I found that a relative that I had been trying to find from my mother's side of the family had been one of the jurors. The two sides of the family were unaquainted at the time. The courthouses have records catalouged by dates. It's a great way to hunt.The District Attorney's office,or criminal court,will probably be too busy to help you do any research.They do however hand you one book at a time that you can scour for names. If you find your relatives name mentioned you can then ask for that particular transcript. In my case there were also newspaper headlines and a lot of info was contained in the accounts.If you get the dates of the trial from courthouse records, the next step should be the newspaper.I found this on microfilm at the library a few blocks from the courthouse. This is why I once said that ancestors that misbehaved were easier to trace than the good guys. They just did not make permanent county records and headlines when they got awards for perfect attendance in Sunday School.Those are the ones that I am having trouble locating. Karen Kerr

I am not sure what the e mail addrss is but the prison system is operated by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. You should be able to find something under "State of Texas Criminal Justice. If no luck that way you can write to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice (Texas Department of Corrections) Huntsville Texas 77340. Huntsville is the Headquarters for the Penal system Hops this will be os some service Billy

I'M LOOKING FOR ANY INFO ON JOE HOPKINS FROM ZAVALLA, TX AND JOESPH BURCH FROM SAN AUGUSTINE, TX. I HAVE SOME INFO OFF OF THE CENSUS. ARE THERE ANY FAMILY MEMBERS WITH STORIES TO TELL. CAN'T FIND THEM BEFORE TEXAS 1900. BEVERLY

My main 2 concerns are that I have no dates on this person, only an approximation as to how old he was, and that I was told he drowned in the Trinity River while incarcerated. How helpful do you think they would be to someone wanting to dredge something like that up? Where would you start? Thanks everyone for all the great advice so far. Dee

Pam, Liberty,Jefferson , Bexar and Jasper counties were formed from "Old Mexican Municipalities in 1836. Tyler Co was from a Part of Liberty in 1846, Hardin from a part of Liberty and Jefferso in 1858, Newton from a part of Jasper in 1846, Atasocosa Co from a part of Bexar in 1856 Now that I have confused the issue- Have Nice day and happy hunting- Curtis F. Yancy -----Original Message----- From: pam serda <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 6:41 PM Subject: County Boundries >Hello All, > >Can someone enlighten me, as to when and how the >county boundries changed? I'm really confused on this >matter. One more question: After the boundries >changed, in which county should I be searching for >records? > >Here are the counties I'm needing help with: Hardin, >Tyler, Newton, Jasper, Liberty, Atatasco, etc. >Basically, the counties that would affect Hardin or >Tyler Counties. > >Any input is greatly appreciated. Feel free to e-mail >me privately, if needed. > >Pam > > >=== >Jas Hampton O 1822 AL>Daniel O 1855 AL>Mary Eboline O 1875 AL> and > >William F. Holmes 1836 TN>Robert W. Holmes 1867 TX>Clayton Holmes 1903 TX>Glenn Holmes 1931 TX >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >

In a message dated 06/29/1999 10:44:52 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I too, would like some prison info, as I have a relative that was supposed to > > have died in one in Texas on the Trinity river. If you are able to give this information, please post it to the list. How does one get information about relatives who had prison records?

Write or call CAROLYN ERICSON 1614 Redbud Nacogdoches,Tex 75961 to order the reprint. She is also the arthor of GATEWAY TO TEXAS vol 1 & 2 which is really good references. BILLIE

Pam Serda asked "Does anyone know about the 1850 Texas-Newton County Census?" Pam, try the following web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/census.htm Newton County, TX is annotated, but it is there, and there are several listings for HOLMES. Good luck! Hope one of them is yours! Amy McCroskie Denver, CO

In a message dated 6/28/99 9:17:56 PM EST, [email protected] writes: << [email protected] >> I too, would like some prison info, as I have a relative that was supposed to have died in one in Texas on the Trinity river.

Does anyone know about the 1850 Texas-Newton County Census? I have found a listing for a Caleb HOLMES, age 30, born in MS, was a Schoolmaster. Does anyone know anything about this fellow? It shows that he was not married, and living alone? Pam === Jas Hampton O 1822 AL>Daniel O 1855 AL>Mary Eboline O 1875 AL> and William F. Holmes 1836 TN>Robert W. Holmes 1867 TX>Clayton Holmes 1903 TX>Glenn Holmes 1931 TX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

This appeared on today's edition of Ancestry Daily News. Perhaps the map information will be helpful to those seeking maps. Jane I will need to obtain geographic information in order to more effectively understand the data, get a better idea of overall migration patterns, and a general feel for the vicinity where the individuals lived. Online maps such as those at MapQuest (http://www.mapquest.com) and Ancestry.com's free map collection (http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/maps.asp) are excellent, but I also prefer to have paper atlases--if for no other reason than the index. I usually buy print maps for specific areas where I need a high level of detail. The Ancestry Online Store has a selection of maps, atlases, and gazetteers for purchase at http://shop.ancestry.com/ancestry/mapsatlases.html. Online maps are excellent for modern areas and for determining some historical background and former borders.

If connected to this line or have info that might help, please let me know. Jim FAIRES Descendants of John Milton Hall 1 John Milton Hall b.? d.Houston buried in a "potter's field" in Houston (was married 4 times) + ? (Hall) 2 Dora Vada Hall b: May 20, 1892 in Nacogdoches Co, Texas d: December 19, 1996 in Nacogdoches, Texas buried at Caledonia, TX +J. B. Martin b. ? d. Houston *2nd Husband of Dora Vada Hall: +Ezekiel Turner b: June 2, 1892 d: January 31, 1968 in Timpson, TX buried at Caledonia, TX 2 John William Hall b: July 31, 1898 d: June 7, 1958 buried at Caledonia, TX 2 Fannie Hall (4th wife of John Milton Hall) +Lou (Crawford) ?

If connected to this line or have info that might help, please let me know. Jim FAIRES 1. G. William Burnett b: August 14, 1856 d: April 15, 1925 + Alma O. Jackson m: March 8, 1874 b: December 26, 1854 d: April 1, 1943 2. James Monroe Burnett 2. Tom (Thomas?) Burnett 2. Hebert (Herbert?) Burnett 2. Annie Ethel Burnett b: June 29, 1890 d: ? + John Comumbus Jones b: January 10, 1888 d: July 17, 1948 Subject: Burnett and Jackson Families Posted by Alma L Howard ([email protected]'t work) on May 31, 1998 at 22:27:17: I am looking for information about my great grandfather and great grandmother. His name was G.Wilson Burnett and her name was Alma O. Jackson. They were from virginia and let there and came to Texas in 1901. My grandmother was Annie Ethel Burnett born June 29, 1890 in Danville, Virginia. We do not know if that was the city of Danville or a county. If anyone has any information about these two familes please contact me or leave a message. ----------- jnburnett6 Posted by WILLIE BURNETT ([email protected] working) on December 02, 1998 at 11:59:23: MY FAMILY WAS FROM VA. AND CAME TO TEXAS IN 1900 AND SETTLED IN AORUND SHELLBYVILLE, TEXAS. GRANDFATHER WAS SOMETIMES CALLED WILLIE AND GRANDMOTHER WAS ALMA JACKSON.THEY HAD THREE SONS AND ONE DAUGTHER ...ANNIE. SONS NAMES JAMES MONROE ,TOM AND HEBERT.

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Joshua B Cochran family and cousins - let's get together and get to know each other and share our family histories! I've never set up anything like this before - so it'll be very casual and low budget. Let's get together on Saturday, July 24th starting at 2 p.m. at the Civic Center in Huntington (on hwy 69). Bring a snack, old pictures, etc. and be prepared to visit! I'll have coffee, a cooler of sodas and thought we could pass the hat to pay for the Center ($40) or if we need to - to get more sodas/drinks. I missed the deadline for the monthly Huntington paper - so I'm counting on the cousins to pass the word along! Paula White 21118 Park Brush Lane Katy, TX 77450 (281) 579-7404 - evenings [email protected]

Hello, Does everyone know about the following site? It's called "Map Maker Utility" - Create your own special-purpose map to shade Texas Counties you select. It's thru A & M. http://monarch.tamu.edu/~maps/diy_map.htm Pam === Jas Hampton O 1822 AL>Daniel O 1855 AL>Mary Eboline O 1875 AL> and William F. Holmes 1836 TN>Robert W. Holmes 1867 TX>Clayton Holmes 1903 TX>Glenn Holmes 1931 TX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I would like to find some sites on the web that list prisoners. Can anyone help me? Linda Bowden