I have a Margaret Rawlinson, born abt.1842 Autauga Co. Ala. to Nathaniel & Elizabeth Rawlinson, she married an Alfred Foster on 6 Sept. 1857. They had one child, Samuel [my grandfather] and then Alfred seems to disappear. I can not find them on a 1860 Census, by the1870 Census, Margaret is living in household with sister, Nancy and her husband Bennett Mayes [Maze} in Nacogdoches Co. In the 1880 Census, she can't be found again, she shows up in the 1900 census in Nacogdoches Co. with Benjamin Ham [age 23], she's listed as the mother [age58]. In the 1910 Census, she is in household with Bill Ham [age 39], she's listed as the mother [age 68], in both of these Censuses she is listed with the Foster name. Does anyone have any information or suggestions about the Hams, Fosters or Rawlinsons that would help me get pass this brick wall? Connie

This e-mail is for the lady looking for relitives in Mt Pleasant, TX. I've lost your e-mail & I have some info for you. Please e-mail me at Lchannel1@aol.com Thank you! Lisa

Would like to correspond with anyone decended from James HALL b. 5 Jan 1855 Titus Co. Tx. m. Catherine HARRELL 30 Mar 1879 Tx. d. 21 June 1911 Hunt Co. Tx. They were in Kaufman Co. prior to his death. Any help with the HALL & HARRELL families appreciated. Pam in Hopkins Co. Tx.

I would like to thank whomever nominated my site for this award....this is really a great honor and a pleasure to know that someone out there appreciates the work that we do. I have great volunteers and I am humbled again...keep watching for the new information that is posted. My congratulations also goes out to the other award winners. Gloria http://pweb.netcom.com/~gsdownr/jmaward.html -- Southwest/South Central CC Representative, USGenWeb Advisory Board Personal page http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/gmayfield/index.html Texas Tombstone Project Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/Texas/ Texas Surnames http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrusk/txsurnames.html Panola County TX USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txpanola/ Rusk County TX USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrusk/index.htm

At 10:19 PM 11/06/1999 -0800, you wrote: Brenda, I have Mississippi to La to TX Waldrops. (Claiborne Parrish Waldrop to Hiram Reynolds Waldrop to Mahala Waldrop Webb etc.) What are you looking for? Terri >From: Brenda Hay <tracers@imagin.net> >Always digging up SMELSER / WALDROP / WALDROUP / ROBERTS/ / LOOPER / LUPER / STARKEY / WALKER / Terri Leinneweber mterril@pipeline.com Please take a minute to visit the PDD Wall: http://www.birdsnways.com/articles/pddwall.htm These thefts must be stopped: http://www.skyeweb.com/birdthefts/

You will understand this I know-I have an Angus McLeod and well-where did your name come from? My folks were in Milam co mid 1800s from La,Ms and parts east> Never miss an opportunity to find a cousin! Retha

Do any of you wonderful people out there know the exact location of Camp Ground cemetery in Tyler County? I know it is supposed to be on Farm road 256 west of Woodville, but that is a long road. Does anyone know exactly where it is?? Thanks a bunch... Dee

Following is a list of the obits from the Houston Chronicle for 11/2/1999. If you are interested in further information about any name on the list, please contact me in private at hinton@flex.net. Please reference the date the obit appeared. BITTNER, MARILYN A. BRICE, BENNIE BURROWS, MICHAEL BUTLER, WILLIAM CROCHERON, CYNTHIA DITTO, DORA DUGGER, EDNA FERGUSON, JOHN A., JR. FLORES, BLANCA GARCIA, CONSUELO. L. GRAY WILLIAM HAYES, ELIZABETH JOHNSON, ELLOUISE JOHNSON, EMMA KEARNS, DWANNA KEMPER, THOMAS LAUGHERY, LEA LESLIE, MARION L. LINDSAY, NORMA R. LITTLE, EUGENE E. LOMONTE, LEORA MARTIN, ELIZABETH MATTHEWS, KATIE MC MILLAN, WILLIAM MORRIS, EDDIE H. PARK, JACQUELINE PRIMOS, JAMES, SR. PRZYBYIA, THEODORE RUIZ, FELICIA SCHNITZER, KENNETH, SR. SCIBA, MARY SELIGMAN, HAROLD SHINNOCK, JENNIE SHORT, JAMES, SR. SMITH, ANNIE STROKER, CHERYL TURNER, K. G. VILLALOBOS, JAVIER VINAS, LIONEL, SR. WALKER, EDELGARD WALSH, JANE WICHMANN, JOHN WILKINSON, CONNIE WILMOT, MARGARET Respectively Submitted Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y

It has come to my attention that these obits do not have a date of death, so I have amended them. Thank you. Following are the obits for my late in-laws. Hopefully someone on these lists will have more information about them. My mother-in-law, Allie Hinton, was a Rawlinson before she married. T. S. Hinton, 64, 213 Pineda St., died at 12:15 P.M. Sunday, April 28, 9174 in a Jacksonville hospital following an extended illness. Funeral services will be at 10 am Tuesday in the Thompson funeral Chapel with the Rev. Kenneth Flynt officiating. Burial will be in the McKnight Cemetery at Cushing. Mr. Hinton was born Sept. 27, 1909 at Cement OK. He was a cement contractor. Survivors are his wife, Mrs. Allie Hinton, Jacksonville; two sons, Teddi Max Hinton, Fort Worth, Jimmie Dale Hinton, Houston; a daughter, Mrs. Jackoline Killough, Ennis; a brother, Clyde Hinton, Mesquite; and four grandchildren. Pall bearers will be Joe Ed Voss, Edgar Voss, John Phillips, Ray Holt, Raymond Lowry, Doc Birdwell, Doug Sherwin and Webb Lowry. Funeral arrangements for Mrs. Allie Hinton, 82, of Jacksonville, are pending at Thompson Funeral Home. Mrs. Hinton died Sunday, February 7, 1993 after a short illness. Born at Cushing, she was a lifetime resident of the area and a member of the Baptist church. She is survived by one son, Teddie Hinton of Jacksonville; one daughter, Jackoline Killough of Ennis; one daughter-in-law, Janie Hinton of Houston; a sister, Mrs. Ruby Voss of Jacksonville; four grandchildren, Jarrell Killough, Lisa Schulze, Laura Clubb and Lana Hinton; seven great-grandchildren; and nieces and nephews. Family visitation will be 7 to 8:30 pm Wednesday at the funeral home. Respectively submitted Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y

Thank you, Janie, for publishing the death notices for T. S. Hinton and wife, Allie Rawlinson Hinton. Could you please put a date of death for each of them? Jean

Hi, I have a links page at my web site. If you are interested in some great links or have a genealogy web site you would like to add to our site, url is: http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/genealog.htm -- GENEALOGY = always meant to be shared! Always digging up SMELSER / WALDROP / WALDROUP / ROBERTS/ / LOOPER / LUPER / STARKEY / WALKER / HALEY / TATMAN and HOUSE Visit my web sites! Lots of databases online! CENSUS ONLINE & OTHER DIGGINS: http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm Visit our Smelser/Smeltzer homepage http://members.tripod.com/tracers Brenda's Branches & The Genealogy Funny Papers http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tracers

Following are the obits for my late in-laws. Hopefully someone on these lists will have more information about them. My mother-in-law, Allie Hinton, was a Rawlinson before she married. T. S. Hinton, 64, 213 Pineda St., died at 12:15 P.M. Sunday in a Jacksonville hospital following an extended illness. Funeral services will be at 10 am Tuesday in the Thompson funeral Chapel with the Rev. Kenneth Flynt officiating. Burial will be in the McKnight Cemetery at Cushing. Mr. Hinton was born Sept. 27, 1909 at Cement OK. He was a cement contractor. Survivors are his wife, Mrs. Allie Hinton, Jacksonville; two sons, Teddi Max Hinton, Fort Worth, Jimmie Dale Hinton, Houston; a daughter, Mrs. Jackoline Killough, Ennis; a brother, Clyde Hinton, Mesquite; and four grandchildren. Pall bearers will be Joe Ed Voss, Edgar Voss, John Phillips, Ray Holt, Raymond Lowry, Doc Birdwell, Doug Sherwin and Webb Lowry. Funeral arrangements for Mrs. Allie Hinton, 82, of Jacksonville, are pending at Thompson Funeral Home. Mrs. Hinton died Sunday after a short illness. Born at Cushing, she was a lifetime resident of the area and a member of the Baptist church. She is survived by one son, Teddie Hinton of Jacksonville; one daughter, Jackoline Killough of Ennis; one daughter-in-law, Janie Hinton of Houston; a sister, Mrs. Ruby Voss of Jacksonville; four grandchildren, Jarrell Killough, Lisa Schulze, Laura Clubb and Lana Hinton; seven great-grandchildren; and nieces and nephews. Family visitation will be 7 to 8:30 pm Wednesday at the funeral home. Respectively submitted Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y

Dear Listers, Thank you all so much for your help with locating the means to obtain a b/cert. of my grandfather. I called the court house in Woodville, for Tyler county, and the lady was especially nice. (How I miss Texas!!) She said that she even emailed Austin and there was not a record that she/they could find. One lady on the list even looked up the info in a book. So I will post what I have and just perhaps maybe some of you can give me a suggestion or two from here. I need info on my grandfather, AD MOSES JACKSON, b. Jan 7, 1888, in Colmesneil. His father is William Jackson, and I do not know where he was from, if he was from Texas, and I do not know when he was born. His mother, I do have a picture of, her name is Harriet Amelia, and I do not even have a maiden name, birthdate, or where she is from. AD MOSES changed his name later on to ED MOSES. This is one of those things you run into, when you begin doing genealogy, I guess. The thing I was told in the beginning, "There will be skeletons in closets, don't be discouraged..." Here goes: My father's mother was not AD MOSES' wife. My father's mother's name is JESSIE MAE (MAY? MAYE?) COLLINS. She is rumored to have been my Grandfather's neice, in some way. But all we know is that she passed away, when my father was 2 years old. I know nothing of Jessie, not even her parent's name. BOTTOM LINE: Does anyone out there know any of the Jackson's in Colmesneil, or Evadale? I live in Wyoming and coming to Texas is just not possible right now. Thanks to all of you for your help with trying to obtain the birth certificate. Any information would surely be more than, & I do mean MORE THAN, appreciated. Sincerest thanks, Linda

This is a resend of an old message in hopes someone might now have some information on these two people. Thank you. Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y -----Original Message----- From: Janie Hinton <hinton@flex.net> To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 9:32 PM I am very interested in contacting anyone who might have been living in the Diboll or Lufkin area in the 1920's and early 1930's who might have known Bryant Hays who was married to Virgie Scott. Bryant at one time had a garage and filling station in Diboll and later had a "beer joint" on the Neches River. If any of this is familiar to you or you might know some "oldsters" that might have known these people, please contact me. Thank you. Janie Brown Hinton

There Is A Susan Jane ARMSTRONG who married into The STOVALL Family in Nacogdoches in 1857. Gladys

> > I am researching the following names and have hit a brick wall in the > area. Maybe someone out there can help.I am serching for info on James > H. Armstrong who married Jane E.? in Alabama and moved to the East Texas > Area where they died. His son Samuel Wesley Armstrong who married Mary > Elizabeth Alvis in 1860 in Nacogdoches Co., Texas. Samuel's son John > Munroe Armstrong who married Elizabeth Farrah Mills in 1894 in Hopkin's > County Texas. Wilford Alansom Oliphint who married Ellen Ladonia Blanton > in 1894 in Bonham, Texas. > Thanks for any help in advance. Juanetta

Last week I signed up to this list because my family goes back over 150 years in the East Texas Area and I was interested. However, the next message that I send will be to unsubscribe because of the negativity of this list and a personal attack on a generous person! I thought that this was a genealogy list? May God Bless You All, Beverly

Hello, East Texas Rooters, As those of you know who are also on the Nacogdoches list, there's been an unfortunate controversy over the obituaries from Houston and I have been busy fighting that fire, and hoping you all would take care of yourselves. However, some of the flames have headed this way. As far as the obituaries are concerned, my decision is that they *are* appropriate for this list which is broadly based and includes all of "East Texas" -- rather vaguely defined (on purpose) but certainly including Harris County. I told Janie from the beginning that I welcomed the obituaries on this list. The only question *I* ever had was that they really were not directly relevant to Nacogdoches County, per se. I recognized that many people in Nacogdoches would be interested in them, but that others would not be. However, they are relevant to this list, and they are welcome here. I think that since there has been so much controversy, Janie has decided not to do them any more. I think that is a shame, but that is her decision to make. I know there are some on East-Texas-Roots who aren't interested in those obits, and some who are. In either case, the question is now moot. Janie has indicated she has given up on them and given the URL where they may be found: http://www.houstonchronicle.com. Please do not -- and that means YOU -- write to the list to give your OPINION about this! If you want the obits to continue on the list, write to Janie privately. Her address is hinton@flex.net. If she wants to change her mind, the obits are welcome on this list. If not, you'll have to get them at the Houston Chronicle. For me, as listowner, the real issue is that we are all adults, and we really need to find some way to learn and accept the principle that long threads full of ditto's and non-dittos are *exactly* what creates the problems on these email lists. Long drawn out controversies that refuse to die are death to a mailing list. I have had 3 dozen cancellations from TXNACOGD in the last few days. How can I make it plain to you that if someone does something you don't like, you just create MORE of a PROBLEM by complaining on the list? As I said on the TXNACOGD list, I know that many times the problem comes because someone is already tired and stressed from work, comes home, gets a bunch of "I agree with John" "I disagree with Kathy" type email and it triggers all that pent-up frustration. I got tired and frustrated with the obits controversy and accidentally sent 3 messages to the list that were intended to go privately. However, I do think it is everyone's responsibility to restrain themselves from hitting the Reply key without putting some *thought* into it. The common sense answer to messages like "Ditto from Nebraska" and "I think you are incredibly rude" is that messages like this *are* The Problem. Your Yea dittos and Nay dittos are not getting counted as votes. They are clogging up the Rootsweb servers, causing people to get frustrated and write *more* messages that go to 600 people and clog up the Rootsweb servers *again*, and they also cause people to get frustrated and unsubscribe. The people who unsubscribe are often *highly experienced* and *excellent* researchers with a limited amount of time who are subscribed to many mailing lists, who very likely *have* the information you are looking for, but don't have time for a lot of nonsense and flaming. I don't like running my lists like a police state and I won't do it. I watch and read every message. If something comes through that is a problem, I have found that sometimes if I let it be, you all will let it be, too. Other times I have to jump in *quickly* and squash it. Sometimes, deciding on that is a close call. I am not ever going to be able to please all of the people all of the time. There are over SIX HUNDRED of us on East-Texas-Roots, and we all have roots in East-Texas, which tends to make us the kind of people with big opinions and sometimes short tempers. But this is also the most helpful and caring list I know of! The obit question served a purpose in helping to make distinctions among the lists and the types of lists. EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS was started because at the time there wasn't any other list that met our needs. It is broadly based, and essentially I welcome anyone who defines their ancestors as having been in "East Texas" from the Gulf (Houston-Galveston-Beaumont) to the Red River. Now, each county in the state has its own mailing list, one of which is TXNACOGD. These lists are tightly focused on the history and genealogy of that *one* county. Only discussions that relate directly to that county are relevant and appropriate. That's why the obits from Houston were appropriate here, but not on TXNACOGD. Rootsweb now hosts thousands and thousands of mailing lists of every conceivable kind. There are county lists, regional lists, surname lists, special-interest lists, ethnic-based lists. There are lists for stories and poems, there are lists where you can describe genealogy related things you have for sale. There are lists for genealogy software and there are lists for beginners and for experienced and professional genealogists. For that reason, I feel strongly that we as a community need to be committed to staying on-topic. A few have lots of time and energy, but most of us have far too little and many, many demands on it. I believe that if a person subscribes to a particular list, they have the right to expect that almost all the mail on that list is going to be on-topic. I don't care how interesting or useful or helpful or humorous a piece of information might be *in general* -- that isn't the point. If it has absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with East-Texas history, genealogy, families, geography, etc, it usually does not belong on this list. I *loved* the 'Bad Times' posting, for instance, and got a big laugh out of it. But it was not appropriate and it didn't belong on this list. There isn't anything wrong with jokes and poems per se, but it just isn't what we signed onto *this* list for. I don't want to get totally, absolutely unbendingly rigid about it, but I also feel it is really up to the community members to understand and respect the purposes of the list. We won't ever solve all the problems. Another problem comes because there are lags in who gets what message when. Just when I think a controversy is over, someone comes along who hasn't yet read the thread and starts it all up again. I also recognize that there are new people constantly joining our lists. They may be brand new to computers, the internet, genealogy, etc. and be finding that it is all very overwhelming. When someone does or says something in appropriate, it is not always easy to tell what is behind it, but usually, the general motivation is good. Consequently, we really need to work *together* to keep our list working smoothly. Once again, thanks in advance for your cooperation. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: webpsalms@iname.com Listowner: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS-L

Listers, There is a very simple way to stop the massive number of emails, SIGN UP FOR THE LIST IN DIGEST FORM, it is so much easier and then you get one or two per day not a gadzillion. I live in the Houston area, and USED to post obit of folks born in other states to that state's list, but like Janie, got blasted for either too much detail, not enough detail, taking up mailbox space with unwanted email, etc. Houston is a melting pot and the area is very diverse in its makeup, so we have folks from all over the world, like most major cities, and also like most places in the world we have folks die. While we are talking about pet peeves, how about using the old cut and paste routine, rather than resending the entire message. It is not necessary to repost the entire message, just the part you are referencing, that way the people that are interested in that subject can enjoy your query/post without having to reread the entire thing. The ones of us that get the DIGEST form of messages, have to wade through miles of screen space just to see the next post. So see, ye that get the mail mode of the messages and complain about things like Janie's obits, in turn make it hard on the ones of us that get DIGEST mode. BY THE WAY, don't bother flaming me, because I WILL send them straight to your provider with a complaint about the abuse, as should anyone that gets blasted by someone. Lois Kennedy in Alvin, Texas

Hello, I've run into a little bit of a dead end on one of my lines. My great-grandfather was Henry Clint MAY. My late-grandfather, Alvin Clint MAY of Hopkins Co said Henry Clint was born in Morris Co, near Daingerfield around 1870. Census records show Henry in nearby Cass Co living with Evin and Martha Williams in 1880. This leads me to believe his parents died between 1870 and 1880. Different census records indicate his parents may have been born in Georgia, Mississippi,or Alabama (Mother) and Tennessee or Louisiana (father). Martha Williams was born in Mississippi. I got his death certificate the other day and his parents were listed as unknown. Henry had a bunch of brothers and sisters. Catherine MAY was born about 1866 and lived with him and their stepparents (the Williams) in 1880. Other possible brothers included Ab MAY and Bill MAY. They must have been much older because they didn't live with the Williams in 1880. Henry Clint MAY married Etta Georgia McGowan and lived out his life in Hopkins County. I haven't had a chance to visit the Morris County courthouse yet and see if there might be any kind of birth record for him or a death record for any other Mays in the area in the 1870's. I'm not ready to give up, yet, but I'm running out of ideas. If any one knows of any leads I haven't thought of yet, please help me out. Thank you, Doug May Garland, TX dougmay@home.com