I should add then - as a personal plug - I will be speaking on DNA and Welsh Family History at the London Branch of the Wales Family History Societies on 8th September. And at Merthyr Tydfil as part of the 1-day Event being organised there by the Glamorgan FHS on the 13th October. The talk will be based on my own experiences with Picton as a relatively uncommon Welsh surname and the Phillips DNA Project as a relatively common Welsh surname. But the conclusions are of general utility to anyone researching surname origins in Wales. With its long bardic traditions and many oral and written pedigrees running back a long time - Wales has a lot of potential to make an important contribution in the origin and standardisation of surnames debate. This will grow and grow as more DNA correlations get published and the procedures get taken up by mainstream family historians. The members of the Guild of One-Name Studies are showing what can be done - but Phillips, Williams and Griffith/Griffiths/Griffen have substantial efforts underway - and there is a Wales DNA page at FTDNA where all Welsh surnames under evaluation are listed. So hope to see you at one or the other of the venues above! Brian -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 March 2012 21:34 To: Brian P. Swann Cc: Dyfed List Subject: Re: [Dyfed] DNA Testing for Unknown Ancestry I think it would be great if this is kept on list, no matter how sporadic. I think you are being helpful to lots of us <G> I am loving the explanations of how it has helped people and I have male cousins who could help me find my 2 X ggf in Wales. Eliz On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Brian P. Swann <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Paul > > I can help you to some extent - but there are far more experienced > people in the USA who have done DNA testing to answer this very question. > > I can suggest two things.  If you want to discuss it with the real > experts face-to-face - then come to Who Do You Think You Are, 2013, next February. > > I would suggest otherwise you need both a standard 37-marker Y-DNA > test and also a Family Finder test from FTDNA.  I am almost certain > there will be a discount if you order both together.

If you live within easy reach of London and would like to hear Brian's talk on 8 September, or attend any other London Branch meeting, you can find details on our website:http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlslbfhs/meetings.htm Anyone with an interest in Welsh family history is very welcome to attend. Anna At 22:13 18/03/2012, Brian P. Swann wrote: >I should add then - as a personal plug - I will be speaking on DNA and Welsh >Family History at the London Branch of the Wales Family History Societies on >8th September. > >And at Merthyr Tydfil as part of the 1-day Event being organised there by >the Glamorgan FHS on the 13th October. > >The talk will be based on my own experiences with Picton as a relatively >uncommon Welsh surname and the Phillips DNA Project as a relatively common >Welsh surname. But the conclusions are of general utility to anyone >researching surname origins in Wales. > >With its long bardic traditions and many oral and written pedigrees running >back a long time - Wales has a lot of potential to make an important >contribution in the origin and standardisation of surnames debate. This >will grow and grow as more DNA correlations get published and the procedures >get taken up by mainstream family historians. > >The members of the Guild of One-Name Studies are showing what can be done - >but Phillips, Williams and Griffith/Griffiths/Griffen have substantial >efforts underway - and there is a Wales DNA page at FTDNA where all Welsh >surnames under evaluation are listed. > >So hope to see you at one or the other of the venues above! > >Brian > >-----Original Message----- >From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 18 March 2012 21:34 >To: Brian P. Swann >Cc: Dyfed List >Subject: Re: [Dyfed] DNA Testing for Unknown Ancestry > >I think it would be great if this is kept on list, no matter how sporadic. I >think you are being helpful to lots of us <G> > >I am loving the explanations of how it has helped people and I have male >cousins who could help me find my 2 X ggf in Wales. > > > >Eliz > >On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Brian P. Swann <[email protected]> >wrote: > > Dear Paul > > > > I can help you to some extent - but there are far more experienced > > people in the USA who have done DNA testing to answer this very question. > > > > I can suggest two things. If you want to discuss it with the real > > experts face-to-face - then come to Who Do You Think You Are, 2013, next >February. > > > > I would suggest otherwise you need both a standard 37-marker Y-DNA > > test and also a Family Finder test from FTDNA. I am almost certain > > there will be a discount if you order both together. > > > >================================ >Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message