I suspect you’re right, Archwr. I tried transcribing parish records from East Lothian (Scotland) for FreeReg. It is not an easy task to read those records. Hopefully, Findmypast has scanned the originals and will make them available to people in case of mistakes. I found several on transcribed documents from TNA. They, however, were able to go back in and fix them. I’ve tried that with transcriptions mistakes I find on Ancestry, but they are not quite as responsive. In time, we’ll sort it all out. L. From: yr achwr Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 5:20 PM To: Lynne Ingalls ; Megan Roberts ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett Lynne, I suspect that the answer is in Megan's original post. Parish Records are the property of the Parish, and the Incumbent or Parochial Church Council have refused permission for the records to be included. I have not looked at Findmypast, and am not sure exactly what is available. Indexes, Transcripts, or Scans of the Original Records? WWHR contained various records of Baptisms, Marriages at Carmarthen, but from neccessity certainly as far as marriages are concerned, all the available information, which may or may not be relevant on an entry by entry basis. I have personally borrowed copy registers from the incumbents of several parishes and have had them photographed. It is normally easier to deal with the incumbent. The problem, is that there are many parishes with no incumbent, and therefore no single person to make a decision to lend you their copy registers. I suspect, that whatever is on line will have errors. I may be wrong but understand Findmypast subcontracted the work to India. How an Indian with no local knowledge can correctly interpret names etc., is beyond me. Local Family History Societies, if they got their act together, could if they wanted provide the definitive source for Parish Record Entries. Achwr ======================================== Message Received: Mar 05 2012, 11:18 PM From: "Lynne Ingalls" To: "Megan Roberts" , [email protected] Cc: Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett Thank you, Megan. It looks like quite a few have been left out for the Diocese of St. Davids. I don't understand why St. Peter's of Carmarthen is listed as left out. Aren't those parish records available on-line already? I haven't subscribed to Findmypast yet as I have Ancesty, but it looks as if I might need both. Money, money, money. No one says this is an inexpensive habit. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Megan Roberts Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett If you look on Findmypast under news then in the story about the Welsh records click on the hyperlink on the National Library this then takes you to a page with more detail about the records and on the left hand side if you select the tab "parish registers" that tells you which ones will not included through the choice of the Parish in question. In the Diocese of St Davids the list reads: Llanboidy w Meidrim and Merthyr, Llanedi w Tycroes and Saron, Llandeilo and Maesteilo w Taliaris and Llandyfeisant, Llanstadwel and Neyland, St Peter's and St John's, Carmarthen, Laugharne w Llansadwrnen and Llandawke, Betws w All Saints and St Michael's, Ammanford. The same article also gives you some reasons as to why records might not be available, my favourite one being the cow in Anglesey that is said to have eaten their records! Megan ________________________________ From: Brian P. Swann To: 'Lynne Ingalls' ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012, 0:41 Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett You need to wait just a few weeks and they will be online at FindMyPast, assuming they survive. Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Ingalls Sent: 04 March 2012 23:17 To: [email protected] Subject: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett List - I am looking for children of John Barnett and Mary Bennett who were married at St. Mary’s parish, Haverfordwest in 1746. I cannot find any baptismal records on-line for this time period. Does anyone have access to these parish records? 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Lynne   From what I have seen FMP have the originals which can also be looked at.  You can point out to them transcription errors and they do respond in a set timeframe, but they only up load the changes periodically.  So it can appear when you back that they haven't made the changes.  Unlike Ancestry they don't show alternatives that people have suggested.   No transcription service is perfect, but I would rather have the imperfect than no at all, and only be able to access records by going to archive centres.   Megan ________________________________ From: Lynne Ingalls <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; Megan Roberts <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012, 1:18 Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett I suspect you’re right, Archwr.  I tried transcribing parish records from East Lothian (Scotland) for FreeReg.  It is not an easy task to read those records.  Hopefully, Findmypast has scanned the originals and will make them available to people in case of mistakes.  I found several on transcribed documents from TNA.  They, however, were able to go back in and fix them.  I’ve tried that with transcriptions mistakes I find on Ancestry, but they are not quite as responsive.  In time, we’ll sort it all out.  L.  From: yr achwr Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 5:20 PM To: Lynne Ingalls ; Megan Roberts ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett Lynne, I suspect that the answer is in Megan's original post. Parish Records are the property of the Parish, and the Incumbent or Parochial Church Council have refused permission for the records to be included. I have not looked at Findmypast, and am not sure exactly what is available. Indexes, Transcripts, or Scans of the Original Records? WWHR contained various records of Baptisms, Marriages at Carmarthen, but from neccessity certainly as far as marriages are concerned, all the available information, which may or may not be relevant on an entry by entry basis. I have personally borrowed copy registers from the incumbents of several parishes and have had them photographed. It is normally easier to deal with the incumbent. The problem, is that there are many parishes with no incumbent, and therefore no single person to make a decision to lend you their copy registers. I suspect, that whatever is on line will have errors.  I may be wrong but understand Findmypast subcontracted the work to India. How an Indian with no local knowledge can correctly interpret names etc., is beyond me. Local Family History Societies, if they got their act together, could if they wanted provide the definitive source for Parish Record Entries. Achwr ======================================== >Message Received: Mar 05 2012, 11:18 PM >From: "Lynne Ingalls" >To: "Megan Roberts" , [email protected] >Cc: >Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett > >Thank you, Megan. It looks like quite a few have been left out for the Diocese of St. Davids. I don't understand why St. Peter's of Carmarthen is listed as left out. Aren't those parish records available on-line already? I haven't subscribed to Findmypast yet as I have Ancesty, but it looks as if I might need both. Money, money, money. No one says this is an inexpensive habit. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Megan Roberts Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett If you look on Findmypast under news then in the story about the Welsh records click on the hyperlink on the National Library this then takes you to a page with more detail about the records and on the left hand side if you select the tab "parish registers" that tells you which ones will not included through the choice of the Parish in question. In the Diocese of St Davids the list reads: Llanboidy w Meidrim and Merthyr, Llanedi w Tycroes and Saron, Llandeilo and Maesteilo w Taliaris and Llandyfeisant, Llanstadwel and Neyland, St Peter's and St John's, Carmarthen, Laugharne w Llansadwrnen and Llandawke, Betws w All Saints and St Michael's, Ammanford. The same article also gives you some reasons as to why records might not be available, my favourite one being the cow in Anglesey that is said to have eaten their records! Megan ________________________________ From: Brian P. Swann To: 'Lynne Ingalls' ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012, 0:41 Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett You need to wait just a few weeks and they will be online at FindMyPast, assuming they survive. Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Ingalls Sent: 04 March 2012 23:17 To: [email protected] Subject: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett List - I am looking for children of John Barnett and Mary Bennett who were married at St. Mary’s parish, Haverfordwest in 1746. I cannot find any baptismal records on-line for this time period. Does anyone have access to these parish records? Lynne in Tucson ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ACHWR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Megan Roberts" <[email protected]> To: "Lynne Ingalls" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Children of John Barnett > No transcription service is perfect, but I would rather have the imperfect > than no at all, and only be able to access records by going to archive > centres. Provided that you always keep in mind the limitations of such an approach. AJ