Dear All I have a different set of criteria to most folk on this subject. I need both Ancestry and FindMyPast. I do a lot of work with Americans - for a variety of reasons. Ancestry is just streets ahead there if you pick the International version. If you are doing DNA recruitment and testing - it does not matter where your candidates live providing you can get a trail back to the UK. I do a reasonable amount on London and Middlesex - again Ancestry is streets ahead there. Origins has the parish registers at the Westminster Archives going with them - so there is no one-stop shop for London/Middlesex registers. They had a £20 reduction in annual subscription if you signed up at WDYTYA - so I did. The Genealogist also has Quaker Records and the Registers of the Fleet Prison to 1754 - again a major source of London and Middlesex marriages. Ease and speed of downloading screen search data into a Spreadsheet I count as important, especially if you research moderately common surnames. Just be thankful if you mainly deal with West Wales. Just negotiate too - these days companies will try and get away with what their list price is - but hard bargaining and a no renewal strategy can sometimes work wonders. Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of yr achwr Sent: 06 March 2012 02:57 To: REGINALD DAVIES; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Welsh parish registers on Find my past. Hi all In the past, I have subscribed to Ancestry, Find my Past, and Genes Reunited. My current subscription is due to end shortly, and I am wondering which of these sites, that other list members recommend. >From personal experience and perspective: Ancestry - there is too much information, and it is difficult to distill what is offered to manageable proportions, when dealing with common Welsh Surnames. Findmypast - Generally usefull, easier to navigate and find relevant information than Ancestry. Genes Reunited - Have found contacts, and shared information with others researching the same families. I have also managed to find Census Records for individuals that I failed to find on Ancestry or Findmypast. I was under the impression that Genes Reunited, and Findmypast were part of the same group, and in theory at least, the information provided for example Census Data the same. Why you can find an individual on one site, and knot the other, is therefore beyond my comprehension. Is it down to the search criteria on the individual sites? In the present Economic Climate one has to at least try to get "best value for money". Which would list members recommend? Findmypast, who Reg in his post credits with 4 Million Welsh Parish Registers on line, rather than the actual 4 Million Parish Register Entries sounds attractive. One does however wonder whether the 4 Million Parish Register Entries in fact refer to the total number of names recorded? A baptism would record the names of the child and both parents, and also the name of the officiating clerk. A total of four names four one entry. Marriage entries by the same token, would record the names of Bride and Groom, along with 2 witnesses, and the officiating clerk. Five names for one entry. The bulk of Church Register Records refer to the period from 1780 onwards, where the bulk of the population of Dyfed were nonconformists, who would not other than for marriage before the advent of civil registration appear in Parish Registers. My instinct tells me that the Claims by Findmypast should be divided by at least a factor of 4, which would reduce the total to 1 million names. If we then consider that the entries contain information from the NBI which would to a large extent duplicate entries from burial registers, we probably come to a more realistic total of 800K names. One in five of claimed entries. That is my interpretation. I would still be interested in List Members opinions, which of the listed options is most usefull. Achwr ======================================== Message Received: Mar 04 2012, 11:04 AM From: "REGINALD DAVIES" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Subject: [Dyfed] Welsh parish registers on Find my past. This is the publicity notice from Find my Past. 01 March 2012 We have just published almost 4 million Welsh parish registers on findmypast.co.uk This is the first time that the complete Welsh parish baptism, marriage and death records have been published online and is fantastic news for anyone with Welsh ancestors. The records cover Cardiganshire, Carmarthenshire, Denbighshire, Flintshire and Glamorganshire. Further details are as follows: * Baptisms: 1,418,921 records covering 1538-1911 * Marriages: 950,254 records covering 1539-1926 * Banns: 340,002 records covering 1701-1926 * Burials: 1,169,685 records covering 1539-2007 Coming soon are records for the following counties: Anglesey, Brecknockshire, Caernarvonshire, Merionethshire, Monmouthshire, Montgomeryshire, Pembrokeshire and Radnorshire. hwyl Reg Davies www.welshmariners.org.uk ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2012, 8:00 Subject: DYFED Digest, Vol 7, Issue 66 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Please delete any irrelevant notes when replying to this digest. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Library Access (Brian P. Swann) 2. Re: Library Access (Lynne Ingalls) The marriage licence bonds are online for St. Davids Archdeaconary pre-1838. http://isys.llgc.org.uk/ I assume you have tried this? Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Ingalls Sent: 03 March 2012 20:56 To: Alison Bryan Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Library Access Thanks, Alison. I'd hoped it would be a way to find the papers of Thomas Burgess at the Trinity St David Library rather than sending me back to Ancestry.com. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Alison Bryan Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:34 PM To: Lynne Ingalls Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Library Access Lynne This will just a commercial Ancestry subscription. (Library edition). http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ Alison On 3 March 2012 20:29, Lynne Ingalls wrote: > List Members - > > Does anyone have access to the University of Wales Library at > Lampeter? I found they have some 4 billion ancestry records available > to search on-line, but I don't have access to libraries in Wales. I'm > looking for a marriage license that may have been issued by the Bishop > of St. David's in 1812. I thought it might have been sent to the > University by the Bishop (Thomas Burgess) when he left St. David's. > http://www.trinitysaintdavid.ac.uk/en/lrc/onlineresources/e-resources/ > > Lynne in Tucson > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Yes, Brian. Thank you. I was reading an article in Family History Monthly, May 2010 issue about marriage licenses being issued by the Bishops of the diocese. I'd hoped the allegations might be at Trinity St David's Library as they are not at the NLW or the Lambeth Palace Library. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Brian P. Swann Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:06 PM To: 'Lynne Ingalls' ; 'Alison Bryan' Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Dyfed] Library Access The marriage licence bonds are online for St. Davids Archdeaconary pre-1838. http://isys.llgc.org.uk/ I assume you have tried this? Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynne Ingalls Sent: 03 March 2012 20:56 To: Alison Bryan Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Library Access Thanks, Alison. I'd hoped it would be a way to find the papers of Thomas Burgess at the Trinity St David Library rather than sending me back to Ancestry.com. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Alison Bryan Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:34 PM To: Lynne Ingalls Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Library Access Lynne This will just a commercial Ancestry subscription. (Library edition). http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ Alison On 3 March 2012 20:29, Lynne Ingalls wrote: > List Members - > > Does anyone have access to the University of Wales Library at > Lampeter? I found they have some 4 billion ancestry records available > to search on-line, but I don't have access to libraries in Wales. I'm > looking for a marriage license that may have been issued by the Bishop > of St. David's in 1812. I thought it might have been sent to the > University by the Bishop (Thomas Burgess) when he left St. David's. > http://www.trinitysaintdavid.ac.uk/en/lrc/onlineresources/e-resources/ > > Lynne in Tucson > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact the DYFED list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DYFED mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ACHWR ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message