Hi List, Many thanks everyone who answered me. I am convinced there is a relatiosip with the Peregrines of Meline, but as yet have not found out. However I omitted to inform the List that Anne Peregrine wife of John was born Llanycefn Pembrokeshire. I am rather puzzled as to why the answer "No" for Pembrokeshire appeared on 1841 census" Abergarenydd" Llandissilio West. She has put Llanycefen as place of birth on all subsequent censuses. I wonder of course if 1841 Anne is a different Anne to Anne of of all other censuses(born Llanycefn). However that would mean Anne of Llanycefn would be a stepmother to all of the Peregrine children. Unfortunately there are no records of John Peregrine getting married anywhere at all at an appropriate time either at time of first marriage or possible second marriage. That is why I am wondering if he was kown as John John , or slight possibility John Perkins.. John Peregrine was born Llandissilio East in approx 1796. That was Carmarthenshire. I have found in E.T. Lewis Book "Efailwen to Whitland" published in 1970's, that a Thomas Peregrine was a member of Hebron Independent Chapel, Hebron, around 1820s. This was quite near to Llandissilio. I believe him to be John Peregrines's brother. Therefore I need to find those chapel records, as I believe they do exist. Many thanks once again for all your interest Yvonne