Achwr et al I KNOW, as I am sure that others on the list do that there were Welsh speakers in South Pembrokeshire in 1892 (some of them were my ancestors!) - and they had moved there from from villages nearer the Landsker line but (as you suggest), seemingly on the wrong side of it! Which was, in part, the reason for my entering this discussion. I am trying to improve my Welsh at the moment which I began, partly, after I discovered a few years that my last aunt from Pembrokeshire had talked to a cousin of being beaten at school (in Pembroke Dock) for speaking Welsh (after which I gather my grandparents stopped speaking Welsh to their children). I have to admit that there are problems learning Welsh in Staffordshire - I am using an on-line course from Univ of Wales, Trinity St David (Lampeter). Marcus