Dear List,   My grateful thanks to everyone who replied to my query about  Tan yr allt Meeting House.   This was not a Quaker Meeting House but Calvinistic  Methodist.  The reason that it sounded like a Quaker gathering was because James Jones in his will of 1789 did not use the chapel name when he left a regular income to it, but called it "Meeting House". This was unusual as the chapel probably had a name by 1789 i.e. it was Capel Bwlchgwynt Tregaron and Tan yr Allt Meeting House was no longer in use. Would anyone possibly know who in fact James Jones was?  There is no house name on his will - just parish of Tregaron. His  executor was his son John Jones. They could possibly be my ancestors.    It is also possible that he witnessed the will  of William Williams1773 who was a wealthy bachelor farmer  of Tregaron/Strata Florida area.   many thanks once again Yvonne

Dear Anne, I came across this, this am - which might add a little more info for you... although not specifically mentioning any James Jones. [From the WI booklet on Tregaron, printed 1984] "Below the road, on the right, overlooking the Croes stream, stands Tanrallt-issa, which in 1840 was part of the Sunny Hill Estate, whose wooded hillside lent its name to the farmstead. It was then farmed by Thomas Jones who also farmed and owned the adjacent, much larger farm of Tanrallt-uchaf. Further along on the left, Nantylles, an even larger farm, overlooks Tanrallt-uchaf on the valley bottom. In 1840 it was part of the Derry Ormond Estate and farmed by John Jones with the very large Camerfawr holding. As early as 1783, Rev. Daniel Rowland of Llangeitho preached at Nantylles, making converts to the new Methodism and they met regularly in the farm. On the marriage of the daughter of Nantylles to Thomas Jones of Tanrallt-uchaf in 1742 the meetings moved with her to the larger house. There in 1744 the informal meetings became officially Y Cymdeithas Eglwysig. Tradition has it that beneath the majestic oak tree at the rear of the house William Williams, Pantycelyn, preached to larger congregations than the house could hold, and there composed the hmn which is number 435 in the present hymn book. Meetings were transferred in 1758 to Penlan in the town. Some hundred years later a daughter of the James family then occupying Tanrallt-uchaf married Rev. Henry Oliver Edwards, a minister in Ysbyty Ystwyth. The latter came into the property and in 1870 he established a water-powered woollen factory which was worked by Watcyn Rees. Many of the blankets and carthenni produced here still exist in the district. The son David Edwardes married, and his wife was the last headteacher of Blaencaron School. Factory and farm have long since fallen silent and only the birds sing neath the old oak."  /end quote Here are some images of the now derelict capel in Blaencaron.. http://www.derelictmisc.org.uk/blaencaron.html# - images of Blaencaron. I have no idea if the old oak is still around in Tanrallt in 2013.  Jen PS the William Williams you mentioned in your first message to List  - this WW was a wealthy (and reputed to be short tempered) sheep farmer and landowner of Pantyseiri, Tregaron. Brother of Nathaniel Williams and who inherited his estate when WW died unmarried.  WW Pantysieri funeral service is said to have been conducted by Daniel Rowlands, and he (WW) is buried in Llanddewi Brefi. (His brother Nathaniel is buried in Ystrad Fflur/Strata Florida) -  So your James Jones, being (presumably) of the Methodist persuasion, could well have witnessed WW's will.William Williams, Pantysieri/Pantysheriff was sometimes known as King of the Mountains. Both he and his brother were High Sheriffs of Cardiganshire at various times. ________________________________ From: ANNE EVANS <anneyvonne.evans@btinternet.com> To: "DYFED@rootsweb.com" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013, 15:15 Subject: [Dyfed] Tan yr Allt Meeting House Tregaron Dear List,   My grateful thanks to everyone who replied to my query about  Tan yr allt Meeting House.   This was not a Quaker Meeting House but Calvinistic  Methodist.  The reason that it sounded like a Quaker gathering was because James Jones in his will of 1789 did not use the chapel name when he left a regular income to it, but called it "Meeting House". This was unusual as the chapel probably had a name by 1789 i.e. it was Capel Bwlchgwynt Tregaron and Tan yr Allt Meeting House was no longer in use. Would anyone possibly know who in fact James Jones was?  There is no house name on his will - just parish of Tregaron. His  executor was his son John Jones. They could possibly be my ancestors.    It is also possible that he witnessed the will  of William Williams1773 who was a wealthy bachelor farmer  of Tregaron/Strata Florida area.   many thanks once again Yvonne ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message