This is by far the funniest mail-list on-line. Mention a word, i.e., flood, and great waves of knowledge spew out of the members at such a rate of speed as to put the word tsunami to shame! I will now have to look up each of the references in order to keep up with your knowledge, which is not the way I had intended to spend my Sunday morning. But, first to Starbucks. Lynne in Tucson (where water is nearly unheard of) -----Original Message----- From: Dale Davies Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:33 AM To: 'Robert Williams' ; dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Biblical matters. Oddly enough, that program was available here thanks to the wonders of the internet. Robinson was referring to a reconstructed scenario of a very large tsunami triggered by a large undersea landslide on the edge of the continental shelf off Norway, some large-distance in time BC. They worked "Doggerland" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland ) and so on into it as well. A more modest effort only a few years ago off the northern coast of New Guinea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Papua_New_Guinea_tsunami ) demonstrated that you don't need a Tohoku-scale earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami ) to get a devastating tsunami. Beyond the other end of Europe in Mesopotamia it would be unlikely to have excited anyone. Cameron (as in find-the-Titanic) et al have tried to float (ahem, sorry) the idea that the final in-filling of the Black Sea - about half as far back in time and a great deal closer to Babylon - inspired the legend. Still another and far more boring idea has been that the Tigris/Euphrates valleys, rather flat and close together around the middle and bottom of Mesopotamia, had a meteorologically ordinary but epic, large and devastating flood, that happened to occur during a period when people were inclined to write about it. Yet to surface in this context - but it will, it will - is the post-glacial flooding of most of the upper Persian Gulf. Although slow, such a process would have been noticeable on the scale of a human lifetime; northern Australia etc ("Sahul") must have gone under at a rate in the order of a kilometre a year. That's noticeable. Anyway, the Gulf is an area some evolutionary anthropologists suspect out-loud may have been a human refuge, during glacial conditions, from the hyper-arid conditions that overtook Arabia. This is part of an "out-of-Africa by an earlier southern route" hypothesis. "Eden" has been placed by some in the southern parts of Mesopotamia: adjacent to the hypothesised flooded refuge. Then there're the flooded "city" remains off Mumbai. Personally, I'm with the cloudburst theory. Or the mushrooms. Ockham's razor. cheers Dale > -----Original Message----- > From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Robert Williams > Sent: Sunday, 15 September 2013 8:06 PM > To: dyfed@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Biblical matters. > > Mention of "The Great Flood"had me thinking of the Programme that was on the > Telly a while ago. > I don't know what this programme was called,but it was introduced by Tony > ROBINSON, The Ex-Baldrick Wallah,mate of Rowan ATKINSON. > > Anyway,I only caught the last few seconds of this programme,and he mentioned a > similar "Great Flood"of 14,500 years ago. > > Did anyone see it? > > It mentioned that a vast area of Canada had a sudden global warming job, which > melted a vast area of ice. > > This Ice was of the Fresh Water Variety, > > And with this melting,a Tsunami happened which caused all this water to rush > across the Atlantic and swept across Europe, seperating The United Kingdom > from the land mass of France,Thereby causing the Water between Dover and > Calais. > > This same Tsunami carried on further inland and finally ended up to form a > freshwater lake in the Caspian sea, or some other Freshwater Lake over there? > > [My Geography is sadly lacking since leaving School over 50 years ago!] > > The bottom line to all of this being, > > Was THIS the Great Flood of Biblical times perhaps? > > Comments? > > Cheers Graham. > > Graham Williams, > Glam;FHS# 551. > of Canton,Cardiff. > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message