>From my personal experience with the Baptists, they baptize when a child is old enough to make a personal choice. In my case, it was the age of ten. There were no other churches in the town, so my sister and I were baptized when we asked to be. The pastor told my parents we were a little young, but he felt we were sincere in our request. Adults were being baptized at the same time we were. Either they had belonged to another denomination that didn't "dunk" and had to be re-baptized, or they had never been baptized in the first place. When we moved to a town that had a Mormon Church, the whole family had to be baptized again because the LDS Church didn't think the Baptist minister had the authority from God to baptize. I abstained that time. One dunking was enough for me. So, I can imagine a person could be christened in the Church of England or a Catholic church in the 17th century, then re-baptized (dunked) at a later age. Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Hal McCawley Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:21 PM To: Lance Kirkwood ; ANNE EVANS ; dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. Thanks Bettye. I appreciate your time and kind response. That's good stuff that I didn't know! Some questions within your message- Best, Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 USA 760-941-4716 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Kirkwood" <lki59595@bigpond.net.au> To: "Hal McCawley" <HalMac@cox.net>; "ANNE EVANS" <anneyvonne.evans@btinternet.com>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > Dear Hal, > > My understanding is even the Baptists usually married in the recognised > established church to make everything legal.......and they sometimes moved > out of their own neighbourhood to do so.....others will correct me if I am > wrong. > 15 seems to be the earliest age for Baptist baptisms, or as an Adult...but > whether that was the practice at this particular time I don't know. [I > reached a concensus of a min age of 13-15 as maturity/understanding and > thereby est a bd of my gf Wm GEORGE as bef 1696] > > The marriage records show that a Thomas George married Margaret Hugh at > Llandissilio in 1772 but this information came from the Bishop's > Transcripts > so probably nothing else was shown on the register. > > A Thomas George also married Matilda David at Llandewy Velfrey in 1685 > ...also from the BT's. > > The earliest William George shown on the Pre 1813 Marriages for Narberth > Hundred [I presume that Narberth is a larger civil district which includes > several parish?] which covers all these areas, was in 1722 at Carew when > he married > Catherine Leach [I don't have a hint as to the name of my gf William's > wife, but the dates fit in perfectly! He is known to be in Pensylvania, > USA in the late1720s] >and a John George married Sarah Beynon in 1727 at the same > place...they may have been brothers. [We could sure use some wills!!] > > I suggest you now have a few surnames which you can look up in The > National > Library of Wales pre 1858 Wills site [I don't readily find their site, > anyone have a URL?] on line in a suitable time frame...I > haven't looked myself...but it is worth a try. You might get some > understanding of the family.....I recently have seen a few Wills which > mentioned children who had gone to America..... to receive a bequest only > if > they returned home! > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hal McCawley > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:08 PM > To: ANNE EVANS ; dyfed@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > > Thanks for responding. I just learned that Rhydwilym Chapel has record of > bapt for- > 22 Aug 1709: Rhydwilym [Baptist] Chapel, Pembrokeshire, Wales has bapt for > a > William GEORGE of Landissillip Parish. [nlwenquiries@llgc.org.uk] > > 17 Aug 1712: Rhydwilym [Baptist] Chapel, Pembrokeshire, Wales has bapt for > a > Thomas GEORGE of Narberth Parish.Narberth Parish. [ibid] > > What would have been the minimum age for a Baptist boy to have been bapt > in > that era? > > Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 > 760-941-4716 > Researching GEORGE in Pembrokeshire, Wales > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANNE EVANS > To: Hal McCawley ; dyfed@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > > > Hello Hal and List, > If you contact the National Library of Wales Aberystwyth they hold a copy > of the Rhydwilym chapel Registers dating back to approx 1670's. However I > have studied these myself and was unable to find anyone with surname > George > as early as the dates you are looking for i.e. 1720's approx. I may of > course have missed them. I do not think that this register is complete. > The email addresss you need is:- > enquiry@llgc.org.uk > Yvonne Evans > > > From: Hal McCawley <HalMac@cox.net> > To: dyfed@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 18 November 2013, 22:45 > Subject: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > > > Greetings from America. > I am researching for my grandfather William GEORGE reportedly b > 1690-1710 in Pembrokeshire and perhaps bapt at Rhydwilym Chapel. He > reportedly migrated to America in 1720s. I know nothing of his spouse, > parents or siblings. > Could you tell me if these church records are still extant and how I > might view them? In parish records, Books, Internet.. > Also, what would have been the minimum age for a Baptist boy to have > been bapt in that era? > I appreciate your assistance. > Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 > 760-941-4716 USA > Researching GEORGE in Wales and Pennsylvania, USA > > ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message