Say Lynne, you're my kind of gal! Guess the sun hasn't got to you yet, and you're OK with my using age 13/14 combined with "or before", just in case he had a white beard. You're a good bunch. Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760-941-4716 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Ingalls" <lynne.ingalls@comcast.net> To: "Hal McCawley" <HalMac@cox.net>; "Lance Kirkwood" <lki59595@bigpond.net.au>; "ANNE EVANS" <anneyvonne.evans@btinternet.com>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > >From my personal experience with the Baptists, they baptize when a child > >is > old enough to make a personal choice. In my case, it was the age of ten. > There were no other churches in the town, so my sister and I were baptized > when we asked to be. The pastor told my parents we were a little young, > but > he felt we were sincere in our request. Adults were being baptized at the > same time we were. Either they had belonged to another denomination that > didn't "dunk" and had to be re-baptized, or they had never been baptized > in > the first place. When we moved to a town that had a Mormon Church, the > whole family had to be baptized again because the LDS Church didn't think > the Baptist minister had the authority from God to baptize. I abstained > that time. One dunking was enough for me. > > So, I can imagine a person could be christened in the Church of England or > a > Catholic church in the 17th century, then re-baptized (dunked) at a later > age. > > Lynne in Tucson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hal McCawley > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:21 PM > To: Lance Kirkwood ; ANNE EVANS ; dyfed@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > > Thanks Bettye. I appreciate your time and kind response. That's good stuff > that I didn't know! > Some questions within your message- > Best, > Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 USA > 760-941-4716 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lance Kirkwood" <lki59595@bigpond.net.au> > To: "Hal McCawley" <HalMac@cox.net>; "ANNE EVANS" > <anneyvonne.evans@btinternet.com>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. > > >> Dear Hal, >> >> My understanding is even the Baptists usually married in the recognised >> established church to make everything legal.......and they sometimes >> moved >> out of their own neighbourhood to do so.....others will correct me if I >> am >> wrong. >> 15 seems to be the earliest age for Baptist baptisms, or as an >> Adult...but >> whether that was the practice at this particular time I don't know. [I >> reached a concensus of a min age of 13-15 as maturity/understanding and >> thereby est a bd of my gf Wm GEORGE as bef 1696] >> >> The marriage records show that a Thomas George married Margaret Hugh at >> Llandissilio in 1772 but this information came from the Bishop's >> Transcripts >> so probably nothing else was shown on the register. >> >> A Thomas George also married Matilda David at Llandewy Velfrey in 1685 >> ...also from the BT's. >> >> The earliest William George shown on the Pre 1813 Marriages for Narberth >> Hundred [I presume that Narberth is a larger civil district which >> includes >> several parish?] which covers all these areas, was in 1722 at Carew when >> he married >> Catherine Leach [I don't have a hint as to the name of my gf William's >> wife, but the dates fit in perfectly! He is known to be in Pensylvania, >> USA in the late1720s] >>and a John George married Sarah Beynon in 1727 at the same >> place...they may have been brothers. [We could sure use some wills!!] >> >> I suggest you now have a few surnames which you can look up in The >> National >> Library of Wales pre 1858 Wills site [I don't readily find their site, >> anyone have a URL?] on line in a suitable time frame...I >> haven't looked myself...but it is worth a try. You might get some >> understanding of the family.....I recently have seen a few Wills which >> mentioned children who had gone to America..... to receive a bequest only >> if >> they returned home! >> Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hal McCawley >> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:08 PM >> To: ANNE EVANS ; dyfed@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. >> >> Thanks for responding. I just learned that Rhydwilym Chapel has record of >> bapt for- >> 22 Aug 1709: Rhydwilym [Baptist] Chapel, Pembrokeshire, Wales has bapt >> for >> a >> William GEORGE of Landissillip Parish. [nlwenquiries@llgc.org.uk] >> >> 17 Aug 1712: Rhydwilym [Baptist] Chapel, Pembrokeshire, Wales has bapt >> for >> a >> Thomas GEORGE of Narberth Parish.Narberth Parish. [ibid] >> >> What would have been the minimum age for a Baptist boy to have been bapt >> in >> that era? >> >> Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 >> 760-941-4716 >> Researching GEORGE in Pembrokeshire, Wales >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: ANNE EVANS >> To: Hal McCawley ; dyfed@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. >> >> >> Hello Hal and List, >> If you contact the National Library of Wales Aberystwyth they hold a >> copy >> of the Rhydwilym chapel Registers dating back to approx 1670's. However I >> have studied these myself and was unable to find anyone with surname >> George >> as early as the dates you are looking for i.e. 1720's approx. I may of >> course have missed them. I do not think that this register is complete. >> The email addresss you need is:- >> enquiry@llgc.org.uk >> Yvonne Evans >> >> >> From: Hal McCawley <HalMac@cox.net> >> To: dyfed@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Monday, 18 November 2013, 22:45 >> Subject: [Dyfed] GEORGEs of Early 1700s Pembrokeshire.. >> >> >> Greetings from America. >> I am researching for my grandfather William GEORGE reportedly b >> 1690-1710 in Pembrokeshire and perhaps bapt at Rhydwilym Chapel. He >> reportedly migrated to America in 1720s. I know nothing of his spouse, >> parents or siblings. >> Could you tell me if these church records are still extant and how I >> might view them? In parish records, Books, Internet.. >> Also, what would have been the minimum age for a Baptist boy to have >> been bapt in that era? >> I appreciate your assistance. >> Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 >> 760-941-4716 USA >> Researching GEORGE in Wales and Pennsylvania, USA >> >> > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message