Dear Achwr Thanks for the comments. Very interesting. I'm sure I have seen a bible with a slice cut out of a family page somewhere. Illegitimacy might indeed account for those hard to trace. Its not only bibles and "records" that are amended. Yesterday a group of us were talking about "amending the past" and one friend mentioned his family of yesteryear who had been very early settlers in the USA (Russian Jewish, and English I think). Two tomb stones are known to have been "edited" in both families. One getting a Star of David removed for fear of desecration, and the other getting a KKK symbol edited out. Then followed a deep discussion on passing moral judgement. Thanks again Jen ________________________________ From: yr achwr <achwr@fsmail.net> To: Jennifer Cairns <jennifercairns@yahoo.com>; "dyfed@rootsweb.com" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 2 December 2013, 16:03 Subject: RE: *** SPAM *** [Dyfed] Family Disgrace... Jennifer, Many families particularly strict nonconformists had skeletons in their cupboards. I have not seen an entry cut or crossed out, but have seen an entry added as a child, when she was a Grandchild. Eldest daughter had an illegitimate son in the late 1830's. He was entered in the bible as a child of his grandmother. The Birth Certificate named his father, but the family would not accept the evidence. It was only when I found his paternal grandfathers will, that named him, his mother and his address, as the illegitimate son of his deceased son, that they accepted the evidence. Achwr ======================================== Message Received: Dec 02 2013, 11:25 AM From: "Jennifer Cairns" <jennifercairns@yahoo.com> To: "dyfed@rootsweb.com" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Cc: Subject: *** SPAM *** [Dyfed] Family Disgrace... On Saturday I was chatting with an acquaintance, who said she had a ancestral relation (from the Lampeter area - don't want to name the exact village!) who had had her name physically cut out of the family bible. Was this a common or "not unheard of" occurrence? Jen   ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ACHWR