Yes Ma'am, Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760-941-4716 ----- Original Message ----- From: RHODRI DAFIS To: Hal McCawley ; dyfed@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGE of early 1700s Pembrokeshire Hal, I am not a preacher, although I may sound like one. There is little benefit in compiling a list of names your ancestors. You need to understand their beliefs, their social conditions, and what drove them to emigrate. I do not intend giving you the answers on a plate as that defeats the object of researching your ancestry, unless you want to get back to Adam before Christmas. Here are a few links for you to explore. http://www.bcgv.org/about/rootsinwales/ http://www.rhydwilym.com/ https://archive.org/details/historyofwelshba00davi Read, and absorb, then come back with any questions. Best wishes, Rhodri ======================================== Message Received: Dec 04 2013, 12:31 AM From: "Hal McCawley" To: rdafis@fsmail.net, dyfed@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [Dyfed] GEORGE of early 1700s Pembrokeshire  Thanks Rhodri for your prompt and succinct response. Just what I needed. I greatly appreciate your taking the time to inform me. Will respond within- Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760-941-4716 ----- Original Message ----- From: RHODRI DAFIS To: Hal McCawley ; dyfed@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: RE: [Dyfed] GEORGE of early 1700s Pembrokeshire Hal, Where does your information come from? The belief that my GEORGE were Baptist comes from tracing my gf William GEORGE through 4 states in USA of Baptist membership. One of these churches was founded by the Rhydwilym [Baptist] Chapel where my gf William GEORGE of Landissillip Parish was bapt 22 Aug 1709 and Thomas GEORGE of Narberth Parish bapt 17 Aug 1712 . I believe I understand what you are saying. Can I now assume that that my GEORGEs were residents of Landissillip & Narberth Parish that had no Baptist churches in the 1709-12 era and they attended Rydwilym Chapel as their only church?? Are the records of Rydwilym available? Where/how? Baptists were Nonconformists and on principle did not frequent their local Parish Church. They believed in adult Baptism when the individual Baptised was old enough to decide for himself whether he subscribed to the beliefs of the Baptist Church. Rhydwilym and Rushacre before it in the 1600's was the mother Chapel of most Baptist Chapels in West Wales, and in its early days drew members from Cardiganshire, Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire. Some of the members came from 40 or more miles away. If there were Baptist Chapels in West Wales in the 1709-12 era? If so, then I must ask why my guys were not bapt there instead of Rhydwilym? Don't assume that because the surname is the same, that they are related. I suggest you start by learning about the Baptist faith, and Rydwilym in particular. There is plenty of information On-line. Just Google. Thanks for reminding me. I often overlook them! God helps those who help themselves! Amen! Rhodri ======================================== Message Received: Dec 03 2013, 07:59 PM From: "Hal McCawley" To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [Dyfed] GEORGE of early 1700s Pembrokeshire Hi Y'all, I need some local education. I have my gf William GEORGE of Landissillip Parish bapt 22 Aug 1709, AND, Thomas GEORGE of Narberth Parish bapt 17 Aug 1712, both bapt @Rhydwilym Chapel, Pembrokeshire. All appear to be of the Baptist religion? Questions: 1) Why were they not bapt in their local Parish?? 2) Were these Parish adjoining, close..? Map available? 3) Where/how are these Parish records available? Thanks for your assistance. Hal McCawley, 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 USA 760-941-4716 ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rhodri Rhodri