Dear Rhodri Many thanks for your thoughts. Made my morning !  I now understand the person who is related on both sides of my tree's reluctance to discuss the matter. Pity. Also, it is noticeable that Canon Law and UK current law, whilst not exactly at odds, define the degrees of permitted marital relationships in different fashions. Regards Jen ________________________________ From: RHODRI DAFIS <rdafis@fsmail.net> Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2014, 12:23 Subject: RE: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations Jen, Tongue in cheek - yes - INCEST! It occurs regularly, and there are some relatives I am related too in a least three different ways. The most confusing example I found (not in my family as it happens). Was a Brother X & Sister Y marring a Siblings. Sister A & Brother B. Both had children, who would have been cousins twice over and Genetically identical. Brother X died, and Sister A died. Sister Y then married her Brother in Law B and had children, who were cousins & stepbrothers and sisters too the previous issue of their parents. They all had common Grandparents. Little regard was paid to Cannon Law, and the prohibited degrees of marriage it would appear. Rhodri  ======================================== Message Received: Jan 30 2014, 11:05 AM >From: "Jennifer Cairns" >To: "DYFED-L@rootsweb.com" >Subject: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations > >Dear List > >Been meaning to ask this for ages. I have a distant distant cousin, who appears to have a link with my tree on both sides of the family (VIAboth my grandmothers, then earlier via the male lines). Must be quite common, but my question is this: -  Is there a term for this type of double relationship ? > >Thanks >Jen >

Hi Jen, That has happened in my family as well. My grandmother and two of her siblings married three siblings of another family. The children of those marriages are called “double cousins” and they are all quite normal, thank you. 8-) Venita On Jan 30, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Jennifer Cairns <jenmathias@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Rhodri > > Many thanks for your thoughts. Made my morning ! > > I now understand the person who is related on both sides of my tree's reluctance to discuss the matter. Pity. > > Also, it is noticeable that Canon Law and UK current law, whilst not exactly at odds, define the degrees of permitted marital relationships in different fashions. > > Regards > Jen > > > > > ________________________________ > From: RHODRI DAFIS <rdafis@fsmail.net> > Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2014, 12:23 > Subject: RE: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations > > > > Jen, > Tongue in cheek - yes - INCEST! > It occurs regularly, and there are some relatives I am related too in a least three different ways. > The most confusing example I found (not in my family as it happens). > Was a Brother X & Sister Y marring a Siblings. Sister A & Brother B. > Both had children, who would have been cousins twice over and Genetically identical. > Brother X died, and Sister A died. > Sister Y then married her Brother in Law B and had children, who were cousins & stepbrothers and sisters too the previous issue of their parents. > They all had common Grandparents. > Little regard was paid to Cannon Law, and the prohibited degrees of marriage it would appear. > Rhodri > ======================================== > > Message Received: Jan 30 2014, 11:05 AM >> From: "Jennifer Cairns" >> To: "DYFED-L@rootsweb.com" >> Subject: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations >> >> Dear List >> >> Been meaning to ask this for ages. I have a distant distant cousin, who appears to have a link with my tree on both sides of the family (VIAboth my grandmothers, then earlier via the male lines). Must be quite common, but my question is this: - Is there a term for this type of double relationship ? >> >> Thanks >> Jen >> > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jen I don't know the official term for what you're describing, but I would imagine it was very common. In my family one of my sets of gg grandparents and the their siblings married (i.e. 2 brothers married 2 sisters), both had VERY large families (13 each) with many of their descendants still living in the area. The chances of some of the descendants of those double cousins getting together in a small place like Pembrokeshire I would imagine is very high. Regards Sandra -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Venita Sent: 30 January 2014 17:57 To: Jennifer Cairns Cc: Dyfed Dyfed Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations Hi Jen, That has happened in my family as well. My grandmother and two of her siblings married three siblings of another family. The children of those marriages are called "double cousins" and they are all quite normal, thank you. 8-) Venita On Jan 30, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Jennifer Cairns <jenmathias@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Rhodri > > Many thanks for your thoughts. Made my morning ! > > I now understand the person who is related on both sides of my tree's reluctance to discuss the matter. Pity. > > Also, it is noticeable that Canon Law and UK current law, whilst not exactly at odds, define the degrees of permitted marital relationships in different fashions. > > Regards > Jen > > > > > ________________________________ > From: RHODRI DAFIS <rdafis@fsmail.net> > Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2014, 12:23 > Subject: RE: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations > > > > Jen, > Tongue in cheek - yes - INCEST! > It occurs regularly, and there are some relatives I am related too in a least three different ways. > The most confusing example I found (not in my family as it happens). > Was a Brother X & Sister Y marring a Siblings. Sister A & Brother B. > Both had children, who would have been cousins twice over and Genetically identical. > Brother X died, and Sister A died. > Sister Y then married her Brother in Law B and had children, who were cousins & stepbrothers and sisters too the previous issue of their parents. > They all had common Grandparents. > Little regard was paid to Cannon Law, and the prohibited degrees of marriage it would appear. > Rhodri > ======================================== > > Message Received: Jan 30 2014, 11:05 AM >> From: "Jennifer Cairns" >> To: "DYFED-L@rootsweb.com" >> Subject: [Dyfed] Doublesided relations >> >> Dear List >> >> Been meaning to ask this for ages. I have a distant distant cousin, who appears to have a link with my tree on both sides of the family (VIAboth my grandmothers, then earlier via the male lines). Must be quite common, but my question is this: - Is there a term for this type of double relationship ? >> >> Thanks >> Jen >> >

An unusual twist - my great-grandmother (Jane Edwards of Lledrod) and her daughter from her first marriage moved to Liverpool and married two brothers Brian On 30/01/2014 18:49, Sandra Davies wrote: > Hi Jen > > I don't know the official term for what you're describing, but I would > imagine it was very common. > > In my family one of my sets of gg grandparents and the their siblings > married (i.e. 2 brothers married 2 sisters), both had VERY large families > (13 each) with many of their descendants still living in the area. The > chances of some of the descendants of those double cousins getting together > in a small place like Pembrokeshire I would imagine is very high. > > > Regards > Sandra > >