Dear Lynne, I'm still very grateful for the caring and sharing (researchwise) with your late mother and you too.... and who knows, this may tie us together again. Pat has given you good answers, and as James R. was born in 1836 at Llanhowell, he may be a child of John Rhydderch of Whitchurch who married Hannah Morgan at St. David's 23/10/1832..the names seem to fit. There was also a David Rhyddarch who married Mary James at Dinas 14/10/1817 and they may be connected. You will also find the records contain various spellings Pretheroe in Mathry in the 1780's and 90's and Prithro at Hayscastle in 1799. In my own research fields Joseph Devonald of Nevern had a daughter Diana in 1740 and this daughter married Thomas Rhytharch at Nevern in 1766. Now some of the Land Tax records of the time appear to show that at some stages a John Protheroe was the lessee or proprietor of Joseph Devonald's lands, and surprisingly Diana is shown in some records with a bridegroom named JOHN Rhytharch......when I purchased the actual record I believe I found that they signed with crosses so would not have had a clue which name was on their parish register. I'm pretty sure from my memory his name was actually Thomas R. I am afraid we are at the whim of each individual scribe! John Protheroe married Margaret Gibby in 1789 at Fishguard Joseph RODERICK married Martha Phillip at Newport in 1790 William RODERICK married Margaret Harry at Dinas in 1777 Margaret RODERICK married David James at Newport 1801 Sarah RODERICK married John Walter at Newport 1811 William Rees Ruddyrch married Catherine James at Nevern in 1687 David Rydderch married Margaret Morgan at Whitchurch in 1708. Because of the name Joseph I have always considered that the Rodericks were connected to Diana.....and somewhere I am sure I have work I have done on this family which rather confirmed this, but as I haven't looked at in years I don't know where I've put it....maybe there are Wills, or Land Tax records. As to Dorothy Harries......I remember I corresponded with someone re a mysterious Dorothy Harries, but who, when and why? There was also a Rev. David Prothero (I haven't checked the spelling) at Eglwyswrw at one stage, and one of the wealthy Gowers of Cilgerran in her Will said he was her kin. I have an idea that he traced to Cardiganshire. Good luck! By listing all these I am hoping someone will find a family connection to clarify matters. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Simpson Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:22 PM To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Dorothy Protheroe b 1872, Llanrian Hi to the list I have a bit of a puzzle with one of my Bateman people. William Bateman (b 1866) was the son of Thomas Bateman and Margaret Jenkins, and grandson of David Bateman and Mary Williams. William married Dorothy Protheroe on 8 December 1892 supposedly in Haverfordwest Registry Office. I have a note saying that her father was James Protheroe. In the 1901 census Dora Bateman is listed as 29 years old and born in Llanrian. The census for 1891 lists Dorothy Protheroe age 19 living in Trevine as a single woman with two young boarders: Thomas and Dorothy Harries (age 9 and 7 respectively). I can find no census entry prior to 1891 for a Dorothy Protheroe born in 1872 (or anywhere thereabouts). There is, however, an entry in 1881 which shows a Dorothy Harries age 9 born in St Lawrence with siblings James, age 12, and William, age 6. These three children are listed as children of William John and Martha John at Trerhos. The 1871 census shows John Harries age 55 with wife Martha Harried age 28 and son James age 2. The birth places certainly indicate that Martha and James are the same Martha John and James Harries cited in 1881. Martha Harries/John appears to have been born either Martha Richards or Martha James. There is no indication that Dorothy Harries married someone Protheroe prior to 1891 but it appears that Dorothy Harries d/o John Harries and Martha is the same person as Dorothy Protheroe who married William Bateman. Can someone shine a torch on this one please. Thanks Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message