NZ does not have census records like you find in the UK. They were not kept. We use electoral rolls. The early ones only had men who owned property and men over the age of 21 and then in 1893 women also got the vote. Also useful are Directories like Wises, but not everyone is listed. Until I can pin down who his are I don't think I will have much chance of finding anymore about his life in Wales. :-( I have looked at ship lists but had not thought about ships manifests. I wonder how many ships arrived in NZ in the early 1860's? Must ask mister Google. Will just have to keep looking Annette