What/ where is B & G forum pls? Thanks Dick Fowler ----- Original Message ----- From: <dyfed-request@rootsweb.com> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: DYFED Digest, Vol 4, Issue 328 > > > Please delete any irrelevant notes when replying to this digest. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PEM Dwrgwdwg Houses, Porthyddy, Llanryan (Gerry Lewis) > 2. THE baptism of George Shears 1889 (surname_oriel@tiscali.co.uk) > 3. Charles Shears and Rebecca Shears (robertgascoigne) > 4. Researching in the Pembroke Area (robertgascoigne) > 5. Frederick Shears (Joy) > 6. Re: PEM Dwrgwdwg Houses, Porthyddy, Llanryan (Karen Larson) > 7. Re: Charles Shears and Rebecca Shears (pat) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:22:45 +0100 > From: Gerry Lewis <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] PEM Dwrgwdwg Houses, Porthyddy, Llanryan > To: Dyfed List <DYFED@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C6FB48E5.8B0D%gerry@asterisk.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > On 14/10/09 02:28, "Karen Larson" <greenfaerie@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am trying to locate information about my great-grandmother's >> birthplace. >> She wrote in the family bible that she was born on 27 September, 1878 at >> Dwrgwdwg Houses, Pembrokeshire. Her birth certificate says Porthyddy, >> Llanryan, St. David's, Haverfordwest. I am not familiar enough with >> Pembrokeshire geography and would appreciate any assistance. >> >> Thanks so much, >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Karen Larson >> >> Seattle, Washington, USA >> >> greenfaerie@comcast.net > > Hello Karen > > "The Place Names of Pembrokeshire" [p290] has the following in the > section > on St David's, Plwyf Dewi [a part of St David's]: > > The stream now called Dwr Cwmwdig or Cwmwdig Water rises near Cwmwdig, > flows > through that cwm [valley] passing just south of Porth Eiddy to enter the > sea > in the bay of Abereiddy (? originally Porth Eiddy), > > It would appear, then, that the houses were near to the stream [which is > actually the parish boundary between St David's and Llanrhian]. > > I had a look at " Old Maps" [ http://www.old-maps.co.uk] putting > Portheiddy, PEMBROKESHIRE in the search box but could not find the name > you > seek. > > Gerry Lewis > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:32:45 +0100 (GMT+01:00) > From: "surname_oriel@tiscali.co.uk" <surname_oriel@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: [Dyfed] THE baptism of George Shears 1889 > To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4748470.1255509165996.JavaMail.root@ps38> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" > > Robert >>From my index of Baptism for Pembroke St Michael Register for the period >>1839 > to 1901 I note the following > 08 Oct 1889 Frederick to George & Elizabeth Shears of the East End a > labourer > by D.R. Parry Davies((Please note in the register this entry is completely > deleted)) > > 3 entries on we find the following in the register > )8 Oct 1889 Frederick Shears to George & Elizabeth Shears of the East End > > Besides the above I note from the same baptism register > 07 Jan 1892 Alice to George & Eliza Shears of the East End a labourer bapt > by > D.R. Payy Davies > 01 Aug 1879 Annie to George & Elizabeth Shears of the East End a labourer > by D. > R. Parry Davies > 09 Dec 1877 Clara Jane to George & Elizabeth Shears of the East End a > Labourer > by D.R. Parry Davies > 07 Dec 1894 John to George & Elizabeth Shears of the Eastend a labourer > by J. > J. Andrews > 16 Sept 1881 Rebecca to George & Elizabeth Shears of the East End a > labourer > by D.E. Williams > 07 Sept 1883 William to George & Elizabeth Shears of the East End a > labourer > by D.R. Parry Davies > > I note from the same baptism register > 06 Dec 1840 George to Philip and Mary Shears of the East End a labourer by > James Dalton. > 22 May 1859 George William to Charles & Jane Shears of the East End a > Baker by > C. Douglas. > >>From my index of Pembroke St Michael Parish Register for Mrges 1837 to >>1908 I > note > 13 Dec 1851 Charles Shears of full age a bach and Baker of the Eastend the > son > of James Evans(sic) a Seaman mrd Jane Williams of full age a spinster and > servant of the Eastend the dau of Arnold Williams a ploughman by banns in > front > of W.M.D. Berrington Charles signed his name and Jame made her mark in the > presence of John Barrett and George Froyne. > (Please note George Froyne was Parish Clerk at this time and quite lightly > paid ?1.5.0 a quarter as hallkeeper of the town hall) > 30 June 1904 William Shears aged 20 a bach and labourer of the Eastend the > son > of George Shears mrd Margaret Shanklin aged 20 yrs a spinster of the > Eastend > the dau of William Shanklin a labourer by banns in front of J. Davies. > Both > signed their names in the presence of William (x) Shanklin and Jane > Shanklin > 08 Apr 1889 Charles Shears aged 23 a bach and labourer of the Eastend the > son > of George Shears a labourer married Martha Ellen John aged 22 a spinster > of the > Eastend the dau of George John a labourer by banns in the presence of > T.J.L. > Davies. Both signed their names in the presence of Richard Francis Rosina > Ann > John William George James plus a further witness not shown in my index. > It is quite lightly you are vaguely related to my wife via the John family > of > the Eastend of Pembroke. If I have the right family Martha Ellen was one > of 22 > children to George John. > > Please note that is no mrge of a Phillip Shears at Pembroke St Michael or > Pembroke St Mary to equate the above single entry of the parent Phillip > Shears > at Pembroke St Michael. >>From my index of the Burial Register of Pembroke St Michael 1871 to 1929 I > note > Alice Shears of the Eastend buried 23 Dec 1893 aged 2 years and 12 days by > F. > T. Andrews > Charles Shears of the Pembroke Union buried 25 Nov 1899 aged 70 yrs by C. > Haywood Phillips. Mr Phillips at this time was in fact the Vicar of > Pembroke St > Mary, so clearly he was standing in for the current incumbent. >>From my index of the Burial Register of Pembroke St Michael 1846 to 1870 I > note > 18 Sept 1870 Jane Shears of the Eastend aged 46 by R.J.H. Thomas > 24 Jan 1858 William Maurice Shears of the Eastend aged 6 months by T. > Crickley > > If the above is yours, it is quite lightly that I have more information of > assistance to your research. > Rgds > Owen Vaughan > ORIEL a welsh window on a surname > > > > > Forget the rest, get the best - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/music > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:26:21 -0400 > From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> > Subject: [Dyfed] Charles Shears and Rebecca Shears > To: "Dyfed Family History" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1BEE62F29A564C13BAB4E7BC6E366E3B@RobertPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello List > > Does SKS have access to the 1851 Census for Pembrokeshire. I am seeking > Charles Shears (born about 1829 according to the IGI )born to Rebecca > Shears. I also would like to know where Rebecca was born > > Thanking you in Advance > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:16:41 -0400 > From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> > Subject: [Dyfed] Researching in the Pembroke Area > To: "Dyfed Family History" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <380FE1713D8A411C977744252A7C6A3E@RobertPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello List > > I find a GREAT research site is B&G Forums, you can get lookups in the > South Pembroke area . The people on the site are very knowledgeable about > the are and will help to find people for you . I have used them a lot in > my research into several families that do not want to be found > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:13:56 +0100 > From: Joy <joy.cozens@btinternet.com> > Subject: [Dyfed] Frederick Shears > To: dyfed@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4AD614E4.5070306@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Bob > > If Frederick is a sibling of the Charles 5, Clara 3 and Annie 1 in the > 1891 Census then I can take his ancestry back to John Shears of Hall > House, St. Florence (buried in St. Florence churchyard 19 March 1807) > and his wife Elizabeth Llewellyn buried 30 March 1827. This John > Shears left a Will in 1807 - see on > http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en > > Kind regards > Joy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:05:37 -0700 > From: "Karen Larson" <greenfaerie@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] PEM Dwrgwdwg Houses, Porthyddy, Llanryan > To: "'Gerry Lewis'" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk>, "'Dyfed List'" > <DYFED@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <842E249D6CCD4177B8DD6DC6D5B57DB1@Karen> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Gerry, > > Thanks so much for the info from the Place Names of Pembrokeshire. I > haven't > been able to locate an old map showing the location either. I did, > however, > have success with a current Ordnance Survey Map. Portheiddy is shown on > map > #157 St. David's and Haverfordwest. It's just west of Llanrhian. > > Cheers, > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Gerry Lewis > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:23 AM > To: Dyfed List > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] PEM Dwrgwdwg Houses, Porthyddy, Llanryan > > > > > On 14/10/09 02:28, "Karen Larson" <greenfaerie@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am trying to locate information about my great-grandmother's >> birthplace. >> She wrote in the family bible that she was born on 27 September, 1878 at >> Dwrgwdwg Houses, Pembrokeshire. Her birth certificate says Porthyddy, >> Llanryan, St. David's, Haverfordwest. I am not familiar enough with >> Pembrokeshire geography and would appreciate any assistance. >> >> Thanks so much, >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Karen Larson >> >> Seattle, Washington, USA >> >> greenfaerie@comcast.net > > Hello Karen > > "The Place Names of Pembrokeshire" [p290] has the following in the > section > on St David's, Plwyf Dewi [a part of St David's]: > > The stream now called Dwr Cwmwdig or Cwmwdig Water rises near Cwmwdig, > flows > through that cwm [valley] passing just south of Porth Eiddy to enter the > sea > in the bay of Abereiddy (? originally Porth Eiddy), > > It would appear, then, that the houses were near to the stream [which is > actually the parish boundary between St David's and Llanrhian]. > > I had a look at " Old Maps" [ http://www.old-maps.co.uk] putting > Portheiddy, PEMBROKESHIRE in the search box but could not find the name > you > seek. > > Gerry Lewis > > > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:32:06 +0100 > From: pat <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Charles Shears and Rebecca Shears > To: robertgascoigne <robertgascoigne@cox.net> > Cc: Dyfed Family History <DYFED@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <GJBemCA29l1KJwSf@pcubed.demon.co.uk> > > Hello Bob > > There is a marriage of a Rebecca Shears to William Richards (widower) on > 5 April 1836 in Pembroke St Michael. > > Could this be your Rebecca? > > In the 1851 census there is this possible for William and Rebecca - but > no Charles at home. > > Lamphey Lane Pembroke St Michael > > William Richards H M 55 Labourer Jeffreston > Rebecca " wife M 50 Steynton > Mary " dau 12 Pem > Benjamin " son 8 PEM > > > In 1841 Pem St Michael > > William Richards 45 Ag Lab > Rebecca " 35 > Mary " 2 > John Hughes (written as Huse) 35 Ag Lab > Lettice " 75 > Alice " 35 Charwoman > > > In the marriage of William and Rebecca Alice Hughes was a witness so > this supports the thinking that this is a Rebecca Shears. > > According to Richard Rose's "Pembroke People" William's first wife was > Sarah Mackan and she was buried at St Michaels on 2 Feb 1831 aged 45. > I can give you more details if you like. > > I think this must be the Rebecca that is the mother o Charles because in > the 1861 census Charles is married and living with his wife and 2 > children next door to Rebecca Richards in Pembroke St Michael. > > All for now > > Pat > > > > > > In message <1BEE62F29A564C13BAB4E7BC6E366E3B@RobertPC>, robertgascoigne > <robertgascoigne@cox.net> writes >>Hello List >> >> Does SKS have access to the 1851 Census for Pembrokeshire. I am seeking >>Charles Shears (born about 1829 according to the IGI )born to Rebecca >>Shears. I >>also would like to know where Rebecca was born >> >> Thanking you in Advance >> >>Bob >> >>================================ >>Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>DYFED-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of >>the message > > -- > pat > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DYFED list administrator, send an email to > DYFED-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DYFED mailing list, send an email to > DYFED@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DYFED Digest, Vol 4, Issue 328 > *************************************
On 16/10/09 23:34, "Richard Fowler" <dfowler1@onetel.com> wrote: > What/ where is B & G forum pls? Thanks Dick Fowler Put B & G forum into Google and you get: www.british-genealogy.com/forums/ Easy Gerry Lewis