David:   Not sure how far forward you are with this family, but   thought I might add the name appears in my history (through marriage) but spelled Seyse and Sayse.    This was in the Welsh settled area of New York state (Cattaraugus County - Arcade & Freedom).  My connections are the early 1900's.   Janice Mills   Hi David, I have an early reference to an Ann Sais of Abercastle in a will of 1786 -  she was then a widow and a sub-tenant of William Morgan, Merchant, the  testator.   Unfortunately there are no more details about her in this  will. Regards Bill G-J In a message dated 23/07/2009 18:54:30 GMT Standard Time,  david@daijones.com writes: Hi  list, I have a " Help Needed " letter in the DydefFHS August journal,  so thought I would ask on this list too. My 3x Great grandfather Thomas  Saies married 1) Phebe William Mathry Parish 1789. son William 2)  Esther Jenkins Mathry Parish 1810. son John. There may be other  children. My 2x Great Grandfather William Sais married 1) Phebe  Roach 31 Oct 1829 St.David's Parish Children Mary Sais christened 5 Dec  1830 Tabernacle Calvinistic Methodist Church. Martha Sais christened 25 Nov  1832 Tabernacle Calvinistic Methodist Church. Ebenezer Sais christened 15  Jan 1837 Tabernacle Calvinistic Methodist Church. Phebe died early  1837. 2) Anne Evan 26 dec 1837 Parish Church  St.David's Children Thomas Saies born 16 Aug 1838 Pencarnan  St.David's Henry Saies born 6 April 1840 Pencarnan St.David's Elizabeth  Sais born 25 July 1841 Pencarnan St.David's Phebe Sais born 27 Feb 1844  Pencarnan St.David's Anne Sais born 3 May 1848 Pencarnan  St.David's 1841 Census Pencarnan St.David's William Sais 31  Lab Ann 30 Mary 10 Martha 9 Ebenezer 4 Thomas 2 Henry  1 1851 Census Pencarnan St.David's William Sayes 44 Ag Lab Anne  41 Ebenezer 14 Thomas 12 Henry 11 Elizabeth 9 Pheby 7 Anne  3 Ebenezer Sais died 11 May 1853 Pencarnan St.David's aged  16 William Sayse died 31 March 1859 Aberdare, Glamorgan aged  56 1861 census Cal Cwm, Aberdare. Ann Sayce 61 born  Mathry Henry 20 Ann 14 and next door at Cal Cwm Pheby  Price ( Sais) 16. Phoebe was my great grandmother she married David  Morris and I have all her census records a death certificate. But, what  happened to the other Sais / Saies children ? Mary, Martha, Thomas,  Henry, Elizabeth & Anne. Thanks for your  interest David Ann Sais died 8 October 1863 Aberdare,  Glamorgan aged 62 ================================ Dyfed  list  http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of  the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message