Thank you Ray Morris, Vera Lowe, Dai Jones, Geraint L. Jones, and Janice Edwards for your responses to my Welsh Male Choirs inquiry. I'm glad for the information from Geraint Jones as the choir he mentioned actually has a way for a foreigner like me to pay online. Many of the wonderful choirs are not set up to take my money. I look forward to your new cd coming out. Are the sold out cds going to become available again sometime? I have done google searches, and even listened to many samples on the internet, but the sound is not so full. Not necessarily the sound of the voices, but the sound of the recording often doesn't capture them well. Although the voices have been nice on the cds I've ordered, only one has captured that full sound and that was the Voices of the Valley cd. from 2006 Fron. Interestingly enough, their Encore cd I didn't enjoy as much. Thank you again for all of your input. Lea