Hello List, My name is Carol LLOYD and I am researching my husband's family in Pembrokeshire. I thought that this list would be able to help me. I hope that I have not included too much irrelevant information to this list, but felt it was important to this families travels etc. My Husband's GGrandparents were John Baten/Batin James LLOYD 1871 - 1960 Occ: Railway Platelayer, who married Laura Eleanor JOHN 1872 - 1941 born Coombes, Milford, Pembroke, Wales. They married at the Tabernach Chapel, Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales in 1903. John B.J. LLOYD died 1960 at the Priory Hospital, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, aged 89yrs his wife Laura died at Coombes, Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire in 1941. Below is information found for the obituary of Laura Eleanor LLOYD nee JOHN on a newspaper cutting amongst my in-laws photo's and personal papers: When Laura married John, they lived at: Address: Rose Cottage Coombes.Milford Haven, Pembroke. Laura was the fifth and last surviving child of thirteen children born to Mr Thomas JOHNS who was one of the oldest & most respected families living in Milford. Laura's father, Thomas JOHNS was " In Charge of the old Blackberry Ferry ". Laura was 29 yrs when she married John Batin/Baten LLOYD who was aged 33 yrs, both were single but lived at Prendergast, Haverfordwest, Coombs, Milford. County of Pembroke. At time of marriage Laura's father's occ: was Joiner. Laura was buried at Milford Haven Cemetery. As this is pretty much all I have about them, I would be grateful for any leads, census etc, that anyone on this list can give me re: above names. As you can see the family below moved about quite a lot and lived in Cornwall, Portsmouth etc, but it is the Wales link that I am researching now. Below is a brief tree from my husband's family, starting with his parents: Parents: John Brooking LLOYD b. 1921 - 2006 ( aka Jack ) occ: Petty Officer RN/Mechanical Engineer He was born at Rosyth, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. He married Norma Patricia KNAPMAN ( b. 1921 in Torpoint, Cornwall ) Occ: Wages Clerk, HMS Dockyard,Plymouth, Devon. In 1948 they married at Porchester Church, Southampton. And JB LLOYD died in Farnham,Surrey, 2006. Norma died 6 months earlier in 1996 in Frimley Park Hospital, Surrey. They had lived in Farnborough, Hants for years. Grandparent's: Arthur John LLOYD b. 1896 at Pembroke, Dyfed, Pembrokeshire, and Vida Florence COLE b. 1896 at Portsea, Hants, PORTSMOUTH, England Arthur Occ: Shipwright, worked for the Francis Ship Builders, Pembroke Dock, Milford Haven, Wales, He was apprenticed for 5 years and qualified as a Shipwright in 1903. At this time, Arthur lived at " Rose Cottage", Coombs, Milford Haven. In 1917 at Portsea Parish Church, Hants, Arthur married Vida Florence COLE b. 1896 . Arthur died in Porchester in 1963 and his wife died in 1979 in Porchester. Possible sibling to Arthur John LLOYD was William A LLOYD b. 1867 Holloway, London, England, via 1881 census. GGrandparent's: James LLOYD b. c 1850 possibly London/Middlesex. Occ: Butter Merchant, Portman Market, Marylebone, M'Sex on 1881 Census. James = Mary A JAMES b c.1835 - ? 15 years older than husband? 1881 British Census Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Mary A. LLOYD Head W Female 46 Westerham, Kent, England No Occupation William A. LLOYD Son Male 13 Holloway Scholar James LLOYD Son Male 10 London Finsbury Park, London, Middlesex, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 21 Albion Place Census Place Ramsgate, Kent, England Family History Library Film 1341234 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0987 / 113 Page Number 8 Thankyou in advance, Regards, Carol _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/

Hello Carol Following on from Glen here are the family in 1891 Living at Coombs Road, Steynton Thomas John, Head, age 52, occ Carpenter and Joiner (Employee), Born Steynton, Speaking English only. Sarah John, Wife, age 50, Born Solva, Speaking both English & Welsh. Rhoda John, Daughter, age 28, Born Steynton, no occupation given, Speaks English only. Arthur Lile John, Son, Single, age 23, Born Steynton, occ Shipwright (employee), Speaks English only. 1871 Living at Cwm, Steynton Thomas Johns, age 34, occ Carpenter Journeyman, born Steynton. Sarah Johns, age 32, born Solva. Annie E Johns, daughter, age 13, born Milford, Scholar. Mary E Johns, daughter, age 11, born Milford, Scholar. Alice J Johns, daughter, age 10, born Milford, Scholar. Rhoda Johns, daughter, age 8, born Milford, Scholar. William H Johns, son, age 7, born Milford, Scholar. Arthur L J Johns, son, age 3, born Milford, Scholar. Sarah I Johns, daughter, age 11 months, born Steynton. 1861 This may be a connection, Living Robert Street, Milford Elizabeth Johns, Head, Widowed, age 68, Labourers Widow, born Menheniot Cornwall Mary E Johns, granddaughter, age 2 born Steynton. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lloyd" <manxie55@hotmail.co.uk> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: [Dyfed] LLOYD/JOHN Family, Pembrokeshire. > > Hello List, > My name is Carol LLOYD and I am researching my husband's family in > Pembrokeshire. > I thought that this list would be able to help me. > > > > > I hope that I have not included too much irrelevant information to this > list, but felt it was important to this families travels etc. > > My Husband's GGrandparents were John Baten/Batin James LLOYD 1871 - 1960 > Occ: Railway Platelayer, who married Laura Eleanor JOHN 1872 - 1941 born > Coombes, Milford, Pembroke, Wales. > They married at the Tabernach Chapel, Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales in > 1903. > John B.J. LLOYD died 1960 at the Priory Hospital, Haverfordwest, > Pembrokeshire, Wales, aged 89yrs his wife Laura died at Coombes, Milford > Haven, Pembrokeshire in 1941. > > Below is information found for the obituary of Laura Eleanor LLOYD nee > JOHN on a newspaper cutting amongst my in-laws photo's and personal > papers: > > When Laura married John, they lived at: > > Address: Rose Cottage Coombes.Milford Haven, Pembroke. > Laura > was the fifth and last surviving child of thirteen children born to Mr > Thomas JOHNS who was one of the oldest & most respected families > living in Milford. Laura's father, Thomas JOHNS was " In Charge of the > old Blackberry Ferry ". > Laura was 29 yrs when she married John > Batin/Baten LLOYD who was aged 33 yrs, both were single but lived at > Prendergast, Haverfordwest, Coombs, Milford. County of Pembroke. > At time of marriage Laura's father's occ: was Joiner. > Laura was buried at Milford Haven Cemetery. > > As this is pretty much all I have about them, I would be grateful for > any leads, census etc, that anyone on this list can give me re: above > names. > As you can see the family below moved about quite a lot and lived in > Cornwall, Portsmouth etc, but it is the Wales link that I am researching > now. > > Below is a brief tree from my husband's family, starting with his parents: > > Parents: > John Brooking LLOYD b. 1921 - 2006 ( aka Jack ) occ: Petty Officer > RN/Mechanical Engineer > He was born at Rosyth, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. > He married Norma Patricia KNAPMAN ( b. 1921 in Torpoint, Cornwall ) Occ: > Wages Clerk, HMS Dockyard,Plymouth, Devon. > In 1948 they married at Porchester Church, Southampton. > And JB LLOYD died in Farnham,Surrey, 2006. Norma died 6 months earlier in > 1996 in Frimley Park Hospital, Surrey. They had lived in Farnborough, > Hants for years. > > Grandparent's: > Arthur John LLOYD b. 1896 at Pembroke, Dyfed, Pembrokeshire, and Vida > Florence COLE b. 1896 at Portsea, Hants, PORTSMOUTH, England > > Arthur Occ: Shipwright, worked for the Francis Ship Builders, Pembroke > Dock, Milford Haven, Wales, He was apprenticed for 5 years and qualified > as a Shipwright in 1903. At this time, Arthur lived at " Rose Cottage", > Coombs, Milford Haven. > In 1917 at Portsea Parish Church, Hants, Arthur married Vida Florence COLE > b. 1896 . > Arthur died in Porchester in 1963 and his wife died in 1979 in Porchester. > > Possible sibling to Arthur John LLOYD was William A LLOYD b. 1867 > Holloway, London, England, via 1881 census. > > GGrandparent's: > James LLOYD b. c 1850 possibly London/Middlesex. Occ: Butter Merchant, > Portman Market, Marylebone, M'Sex on 1881 Census. > James = Mary A JAMES b c.1835 - ? 15 years older than husband? > > 1881 British Census > > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age > Birthplace Occupation Disability > Mary A. LLOYD Head W Female 46 > Westerham, Kent, England No Occupation > William A. LLOYD Son Male 13 > Holloway Scholar > James LLOYD Son Male 10 > London Finsbury Park, London, Middlesex, England Scholar > > Source Information: > Dwelling 21 Albion Place > Census Place Ramsgate, Kent, England > Family History Library Film 1341234 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0987 / 113 > Page Number 8 > > Thankyou in advance, > Regards, > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get the best of MSN on your mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Carol Thomas shows in 1871 he called his first born son William and 1861 shows Mary E John as the granddaughter of Elizabeth John, a labourers widow, not born in Pembrokeshire. I wonder if this could be the family in 1841. 1841 Parish Steynton Living at Third Street, Milford The 1841 only shows if born in County or not. Ages of adults were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0. William John, age 50, Labourer, born in County. Elizabeth John, age 45, not born in County. Richard John, age 20, Masons Apprentice. Richard and all of the following were born in Pembrokeshire. Joseph John, age 18, Shipwright Apprentice. Benjamin John, age 16, Tailor Apprentice. Ann John, age 14, House Servant. William John, age 12 Elizabeth John, age 10 Morris John, age 8 Thomas John, age 6 Harry John, age 4 I think this may well be the correct family because you say Thomas was a Joiner........ 1851 Living Back Street, Steynton Elizabeth Johns, Widow, age 50, occ Washerwoman, born Steynton All the remaining family are shown as born in Steynton Elizabeth Johns, daughter, age 20, occ dressmaker. Moryes Johns, son, age 18, occ Shipwright. Thomas John son, age 16, occ Joiner Ann Johns, Granddaughter age 6. Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lloyd" <manxie55@hotmail.co.uk> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: [Dyfed] LLOYD/JOHN Family, Pembrokeshire. > > Hello List, > My name is Carol LLOYD and I am researching my husband's family in > Pembrokeshire. > I thought that this list would be able to help me. > > > > > I hope that I have not included too much irrelevant information to this > list, but felt it was important to this families travels etc. > > My Husband's GGrandparents were John Baten/Batin James LLOYD 1871 - 1960 > Occ: Railway Platelayer, who married Laura Eleanor JOHN 1872 - 1941 born > Coombes, Milford, Pembroke, Wales. > They married at the Tabernach Chapel, Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales in > 1903. > John B.J. LLOYD died 1960 at the Priory Hospital, Haverfordwest, > Pembrokeshire, Wales, aged 89yrs his wife Laura died at Coombes, Milford > Haven, Pembrokeshire in 1941. > > Below is information found for the obituary of Laura Eleanor LLOYD nee > JOHN on a newspaper cutting amongst my in-laws photo's and personal > papers: > > When Laura married John, they lived at: > > Address: Rose Cottage Coombes.Milford Haven, Pembroke. > Laura > was the fifth and last surviving child of thirteen children born to Mr > Thomas JOHNS who was one of the oldest & most respected families > living in Milford. Laura's father, Thomas JOHNS was " In Charge of the > old Blackberry Ferry ". > Laura was 29 yrs when she married John > Batin/Baten LLOYD who was aged 33 yrs, both were single but lived at > Prendergast, Haverfordwest, Coombs, Milford. County of Pembroke. > At time of marriage Laura's father's occ: was Joiner. > Laura was buried at Milford Haven Cemetery. > > As this is pretty much all I have about them, I would be grateful for > any leads, census etc, that anyone on this list can give me re: above > names. > As you can see the family below moved about quite a lot and lived in > Cornwall, Portsmouth etc, but it is the Wales link that I am researching > now. > > Below is a brief tree from my husband's family, starting with his parents: > > Parents: > John Brooking LLOYD b. 1921 - 2006 ( aka Jack ) occ: Petty Officer > RN/Mechanical Engineer > He was born at Rosyth, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. > He married Norma Patricia KNAPMAN ( b. 1921 in Torpoint, Cornwall ) Occ: > Wages Clerk, HMS Dockyard,Plymouth, Devon. > In 1948 they married at Porchester Church, Southampton. > And JB LLOYD died in Farnham,Surrey, 2006. Norma died 6 months earlier in > 1996 in Frimley Park Hospital, Surrey. They had lived in Farnborough, > Hants for years. > > Grandparent's: > Arthur John LLOYD b. 1896 at Pembroke, Dyfed, Pembrokeshire, and Vida > Florence COLE b. 1896 at Portsea, Hants, PORTSMOUTH, England > > Arthur Occ: Shipwright, worked for the Francis Ship Builders, Pembroke > Dock, Milford Haven, Wales, He was apprenticed for 5 years and qualified > as a Shipwright in 1903. At this time, Arthur lived at " Rose Cottage", > Coombs, Milford Haven. > In 1917 at Portsea Parish Church, Hants, Arthur married Vida Florence COLE > b. 1896 . > Arthur died in Porchester in 1963 and his wife died in 1979 in Porchester. > > Possible sibling to Arthur John LLOYD was William A LLOYD b. 1867 > Holloway, London, England, via 1881 census. > > GGrandparent's: > James LLOYD b. c 1850 possibly London/Middlesex. Occ: Butter Merchant, > Portman Market, Marylebone, M'Sex on 1881 Census. > James = Mary A JAMES b c.1835 - ? 15 years older than husband? > > 1881 British Census > > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age > Birthplace Occupation Disability > Mary A. LLOYD Head W Female 46 > Westerham, Kent, England No Occupation > William A. LLOYD Son Male 13 > Holloway Scholar > James LLOYD Son Male 10 > London Finsbury Park, London, Middlesex, England Scholar > > Source Information: > Dwelling 21 Albion Place > Census Place Ramsgate, Kent, England > Family History Library Film 1341234 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0987 / 113 > Page Number 8 > > Thankyou in advance, > Regards, > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get the best of MSN on your mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carol This is just a thought but may be worth remembering when you are researching this family. Arthur Lile John, I wonder why the Lile. Looking at the 1813-1837 Pembs marriage index I see there were three men marrying with the surname Lile and 2 of them were from Whitchurch parish. Solva is in the parish of Whitchurch. So could Lile be a carried over family name. We have a John Lile marrying a Amy Evans in Whitchurch (Solva) on the 21 st Oct 1828 and William Lile of Whitchurch marrying Mary Rees at St Davids on the 15th August 1822. There is a Mary Lile a widow, marrying a Joseph Nash of St Davids, Farmer at Whitchurch on the 11th March 1830 and Eleanor Lile marrying Henry Young of Brawdy at Whitchurch on the 19th Feb 1835. As Sarah came from Solva or at least was born there, I would think that name may have some reference. Looking at the pre 1813 marriages, I see a James Lile marrying a Elinor Griffith in St Davids in 1797. 1841 shows the Amy Evans who married John Lile in Solva in 1828 now living in Third Street, Milford, Steynton. She is shown as a Sailors Wife. They named their first son William and second son James. I do not know where you are in the world, so forgive me if I am telling you something you do know. St Davids is the next village to Solva. Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lloyd" <manxie55@hotmail.co.uk> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: [Dyfed] LLOYD/JOHN Family, Pembrokeshire. > > Hello List, > My name is Carol LLOYD and I am researching my husband's family in > Pembrokeshire. > I thought that this list would be able to help me. > > > > > I hope that I have not included too much irrelevant information to this > list, but felt it was important to this families travels etc. > > My Husband's GGrandparents were John Baten/Batin James LLOYD 1871 - 1960 > Occ: Railway Platelayer, who married Laura Eleanor JOHN 1872 - 1941 born > Coombes, Milford, Pembroke, Wales. > They married at the Tabernach Chapel, Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales in > 1903. > John B.J. LLOYD died 1960 at the Priory Hospital, Haverfordwest, > Pembrokeshire, Wales, aged 89yrs his wife Laura died at Coombes, Milford > Haven, Pembrokeshire in 1941. > > Below is information found for the obituary of Laura Eleanor LLOYD nee > JOHN on a newspaper cutting amongst my in-laws photo's and personal > papers: > > When Laura married John, they lived at: > > Address: Rose Cottage Coombes.Milford Haven, Pembroke. > Laura > was the fifth and last surviving child of thirteen children born to Mr > Thomas JOHNS who was one of the oldest & most respected families > living in Milford. Laura's father, Thomas JOHNS was " In Charge of the > old Blackberry Ferry ". > Laura was 29 yrs when she married John > Batin/Baten LLOYD who was aged 33 yrs, both were single but lived at > Prendergast, Haverfordwest, Coombs, Milford. County of Pembroke. > At time of marriage Laura's father's occ: was Joiner. > Laura was buried at Milford Haven Cemetery. > > As this is pretty much all I have about them, I would be grateful for > any leads, census etc, that anyone on this list can give me re: above > names. > As you can see the family below moved about quite a lot and lived in > Cornwall, Portsmouth etc, but it is the Wales link that I am researching > now. > > Below is a brief tree from my husband's family, starting with his parents: > > Parents: > John Brooking LLOYD b. 1921 - 2006 ( aka Jack ) occ: Petty Officer > RN/Mechanical Engineer > He was born at Rosyth, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. > He married Norma Patricia KNAPMAN ( b. 1921 in Torpoint, Cornwall ) Occ: > Wages Clerk, HMS Dockyard,Plymouth, Devon. > In 1948 they married at Porchester Church, Southampton. > And JB LLOYD died in Farnham,Surrey, 2006. Norma died 6 months earlier in > 1996 in Frimley Park Hospital, Surrey. They had lived in Farnborough, > Hants for years. > > Grandparent's: > Arthur John LLOYD b. 1896 at Pembroke, Dyfed, Pembrokeshire, and Vida > Florence COLE b. 1896 at Portsea, Hants, PORTSMOUTH, England > > Arthur Occ: Shipwright, worked for the Francis Ship Builders, Pembroke > Dock, Milford Haven, Wales, He was apprenticed for 5 years and qualified > as a Shipwright in 1903. At this time, Arthur lived at " Rose Cottage", > Coombs, Milford Haven. > In 1917 at Portsea Parish Church, Hants, Arthur married Vida Florence COLE > b. 1896 . > Arthur died in Porchester in 1963 and his wife died in 1979 in Porchester. > > Possible sibling to Arthur John LLOYD was William A LLOYD b. 1867 > Holloway, London, England, via 1881 census. > > GGrandparent's: > James LLOYD b. c 1850 possibly London/Middlesex. Occ: Butter Merchant, > Portman Market, Marylebone, M'Sex on 1881 Census. > James = Mary A JAMES b c.1835 - ? 15 years older than husband? > > 1881 British Census > > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age > Birthplace Occupation Disability > Mary A. LLOYD Head W Female 46 > Westerham, Kent, England No Occupation > William A. LLOYD Son Male 13 > Holloway Scholar > James LLOYD Son Male 10 > London Finsbury Park, London, Middlesex, England Scholar > > Source Information: > Dwelling 21 Albion Place > Census Place Ramsgate, Kent, England > Family History Library Film 1341234 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 0987 / 113 > Page Number 8 > > Thankyou in advance, > Regards, > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get the best of MSN on your mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >