Hi MALE VOICE CHOIRS Pembroke and District have a very good male choir and if anyone is interested I suggest they visit the website www.pembrokeanddistrictmalevoicechoir.co.uk This is a choir local to Pembroke, they have made a number of CDs and there are plans for a new one. They also recently sang at The Royal Albert Hall in London together with other choirs-including Tenby- of the Welsh Association, and there is a CD and DVD of that concert. Not a Family History matter but maybe of interest. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <dyfed-request@rootsweb.com> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: DYFED Digest, Vol 4, Issue 225 > > > Please delete any irrelevant notes when replying to this digest. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Welsh Choirs (cardi2@aol.com) > 2. Re: LLOYD/JOHN Family, Pembrokeshire. (LC & BJ Kirkwood) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:15:16 -0400 > From: cardi2@aol.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Welsh Choirs > To: dyfed@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CBD16E83E86B66-14A8-1D0B@WEBMAIL-MA02.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > I noted Ms Robertson's comment about the Tenby Male Voice Choir singing > and she wanted a CD of it.? > > I'm sure they have beautiful voices, but what I'm curious about is, why > weren't they singing Welsh-language songs? > > I have heard many Welsh choirs come here to the USA and sing show tunes, > Danny Boy, etc.? Great - they have wonderful voices - but the people in > the audience get very angry - they want only Welsh-language songs.??? They > want something from home not a show tune. > > I know that the choirs feel it is a mark of distinction that they can sing > show tunes, Danny Boy, etc. - but that's not what the American people > want.? By the way, many of them don't speak the Welsh language but they > still want it sung in the "Language of Heaven."? There is a difference > when a song is sung in Welsh and when its not.? There's no feeling when > the song is sung in English.? I do not speak the language, although I sing > it.? My father spoke and sang the language and I come from a > Welsh-speaking Cardiganshire family. > > Annie > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > Attached Message > > > > > > > > From: > > > LeaMarie Robertson <leamarrob@gmail.com> > > > > > > > To: > > > DYFED@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > Subject: > > > [Dyfed] DYFED - Welsh male choirs - question > > > > > > > Date: > > > Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:09:00 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the songs we heard on the Tenby beach that night were: "When you > Walk Through a Storm", "Danny Boy", "Shanendoah" (sp), "Take me home"? > (from > Les Miserable), "All Through the Night" etc. The sounds were deep and > rich > and beyond description. > > Does anyone know of any other Welsh Male Choir CDs that we might enjoy or > that may be of that quality? Thank you, Lea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Attac > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:55:00 +1000 > From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" <lki59595@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] LLOYD/JOHN Family, Pembrokeshire. > To: "Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk>, <dyfed@rootsweb.com>, > "Carol Lloyd" <manxie55@hotmail.co.uk> > Message-ID: <70F00CC9A9B94FFA9D4BD92AB6A77219@p4desktop> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Dear Carol, > > Glen has referred to the possible marriage in the IGI of John Thomas to > Sarah Summers recorded at Haverfordwest in 1860. > The census info. indicates that she was born c. 1840 and, of course, her > parents may have married after the cut-off point of 1837 for the Pemb. > marriage index and before 1840.. After 1837, of course, certificates are > available, so it may be possible to obtain Sarah's birth certificate. > > On 23/09/1834 a John Summers married Sarah Jenkins at St. Mary's > Haverfordwest........and your Sarah perhaps could be named after Sarah > Jenkins. It should be possible to trace Sarah Summers in the 1841 census > as > a baby and the 1851 for more family information. > > There are several rather important Summers males in Pembrokeshire at this > time....some associated with Thornton House, Steynton, and it is recorded > in > the Historic Pembrokeshire Homes & Their Families book compiled from the > work of the late Welsh Herald, Major Francis Jones, that a David BATEN > Yeoman lived at Thornton House in 1623. However, closer in time a Thomas > Batin, Labourer, married Mary Evan at St. Nicholas > 12/04/1819...there are also several other spellings such as Batine through > the years, which may relate to a different family. > > After David BATEN, the Andrew family lived at Thornton House, followed by > the Crymes...Mary BATIN married William Andrew in 1762 .and in 1832 Louisa > Crymes married James Summers, Solicitor and County Treasurer. A John > Summers 05/01/1830 Gent. of St. Thomas Haverfordwest married Harriet > Elizabeth Howell at Prendergast and on 02/04/1835 a William Summers of St. > Thomas married Elizabeth Pernell at St. Mary's Haverfordwest. > > A John BATTIN married Grace Jenkins at Steynton in 1694/95...the different > surname spellings may depend on the scribe of the times........but if you > care to follow it, you may find the connection and reason for the Batin > name > is through Sarah Jenkins. There are a couple of Pembrokeshire Wills for > Batin/e in various spellings, and about a dozen for the Summers name, but > hopefully the census entries will put you on the right path. > Perhaps Glen or Sylvia might oblige. > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Jenkins" <jinxs104@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com>; "Carol Lloyd" <manxie55@hotmail.co.uk> > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] LLOYD/JOHN Family, Pembrokeshire. > > > > Hello Carol > > Here are the John family in 1881 Census > Coombs Steynton, Pembrokeshire > RG11/5415/66/7 > > Thomas JOHN Head M Male 45 Milford, Pembroke, Wales Joiner > Sarah JOHN Wife M Female 41 Solva, Pembroke, Wales > Rhoda JOHN Daur U Female 18 Milford, Pembroke, Wales Domestic Servant > William Henry JOHN Son U Male 16 Milford, Pembroke, Wales Ship Carpenter > Arthur L. JOHN Son Male 13 Milford, Pembroke, Wales Scholar > Sarah Bella JOHN Daur Female 10 Coombs, Pembroke, Wales Scholar > Laura Elinor JOHN Daur Female 8 Coombs, Pembroke, Wales Scholar > Emily Gertrude JOHN Daur Female 7 Coombs, Pembroke, Wales Scholar > Alice Jane JOHN Daur U Female 21 Steynton, Pembroke, Wales Domestic > Servant > Family is also posted on IGI. > Marriage Dec 1860 > John Thomas Haverfordwest 11a 1139 > Summers Sarah Haverfordwest 11a 1139 > > Glen Jenkins > Swansea > Wales > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DYFED list administrator, send an email to > DYFED-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DYFED mailing list, send an email to > DYFED@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DYFED Digest, Vol 4, Issue 225 > ************************************* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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