Hello Sylvia You seem sure of your dates, in the 1841 Census the eldest daughter is down as 8 years old. This would tie in with Elizabeth marrying John in about 1832 when she would have been 21, are you sure about the dates?  Giving exact dates implies that you have access to their records or an index of their records. What you need is someone to check the originals to give you the name of the parents. William John 1806 35 William Elizabeth 1811 30 William Margaret 1833 8 William William 1838 3 William David 1840 1 Living at the Wern Gareth --- On Mon, 6/7/09, sylvia gardner <s.gardner73@yahoo.com> wrote: John Williams  chr 9 oct 1803 Llanelly Carm; who were his parents? he married. Elizabeth Jenkins abt   7 May 1829 Llaugharne Parish Church, she was born abt 1812, according to the 1851 cencus all born Llanelly.   I would be very appreciative if I could find Elizabeth's birth and parents. Also John's parents.   Thank you.   Sylvia in Kentucky