Brian That piece is certainly shown on this ancestry page as 'missing. The storage of the 1861 census returns in particular could be described as haphazard in the extreme and they didn't get into the safe hands of the PRO until the 1960s, unfortunately sections are permanently missing. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/Default.aspx?htx=List&dbid=8768&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0 Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Forder" <brian.forder@ukonline.co.uk> To: <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:22 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Aberystwyth >I have ancestors listed at Vulcan Place, Aberystwyth in the 1851 and 1871 >Census. > > I am informed that the Piece RG9/4196 for 1861 Census that would cover > this address is missing. > > Is it missing forever ? > > Brian Forder