-----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dyfed-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:00 AM To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: DYFED Digest, Vol 4, Issue 378 Please delete any irrelevant notes when replying to this digest. Today's Topics: 1. Re Thomas Evans of Llandyfriog (cardi2@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Annie, I have not requested birth certificates for Thomas because, as you already know, I could probably go through 50 before I got to the right one. I don't know to which religion they belonged, but Thomas was married in Graig Chapel in Newcastle in Emlyn, CMN. I do have ancestry.co.uk and found a Thomas, apprentice, in 1851 in Cenarth, born in Llandyfriog and have assumed it to be him. The 1861 census in which parts of the assumed family are together indicates their birthplace as Llangoedmor, the same as Benjamin, their father. Thomas' birth place is listed as Llandyfroid, but misspelled. I have made a "temporary" assumption that the information was given by someone other than the principles and they didn't know the birth place of the children. I plan to be able to ascertain Thomas' mother and probably stop my search there unless I can find data which will take me back further without the total dependence of the good people in this group. The LDS archives don't contain the data either. Thanks for your assistance. Every bit helps. Howard Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:46:47 -0500 From: cardi2@aol.com Subject: [Dyfed] Re Thomas Evans of Llandyfriog To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CC3AB6BC8BB99B-2EE4-956D@webmail-d046.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi: Have you applied for a birth certificate on Thomas Evans in Llandyfriog, CGN? Also, what religion was the family? If they were Church of England, they might be in the parish register for that parish. If someone could look that up for you (I can't), he might be listed. When Civil Registration went into effect (July 1, 1837), many of the Churches of England continue recording the baptisms and burials of their members. It's worth a gamble to look for that. IF he was a nonconformist, then just try for the birth certificate. Do you have ancestery.com? If not, is there a library nearby that does. I would check for Thoams Evans in that area for 1851 and 1861. He's probably working as a servant, shepherd, etc. for somebody else. He's probably in the same parish, so you need to look for him. children in those days weren't children. They were old before their time. For the 1841 census, he may not have been born until that year. The entry in Monmouthshire - where does it say the chldren were born? If it says Llandyfriog, its a possibility but if it only says Cardiganshire, I would run the other way. Evans is just too common of a name in Wales. I would continue looking around Llandyfriog parish and the surrounding areas for him. Don't give up. Annie Los Angeles