Bob, The surname Davies is certainly not good news. However, FreeBMD only shows two Benjamin Davies with births registered in Llanelly in the right period: March 1864 & June 1864. Neither work out at exactly aged 8 for the census in 1871, but may be "close enough". There are too many Mary Ann Davies and David Davies to work on. It may be that you will have to invest £14 to get the certificates. Hopefully one will be with the correct parents, and it will show the mother's maiden name, which might give a lead on obtaining a marriage certificate. This is perhaps more in hope than anything else. A reference in the 1861 census might provide a better lead. Simon Carter s.n.carter@btinternet.com   --- On Mon, 23/11/09, robertgascoigne <robertgascoigne@cox.net> wrote: From: robertgascoigne <robertgascoigne@cox.net> Subject: [Dyfed] John DAVIES To: "Dyfed Family History" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 13:02 Hello List   I am looking for a needle in a haystack? I am seeking a John Davies who is married to a Margaret. The information I have is,  on the 1871 Census John and Margaret have a son David aged 10 born Llanelly, Benjamin age 8 born Llanelly, and Mary Ann aged 2 born Llanelly. I could not find them in 1861 before my subscription to ancestry ran out. On the 1871 census no place of birth was given for John or Margaret  but the children all give Llanelly as their place of birth. John is not on the 1881 census and Margaret is shown as a widow, living at 48 High Street Llanelly. Any information will be Welcome on this family Thank you in Advance Bob ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message