Hi Joan I only started researching my husband's tree a week ago, so I'm still in the early days. My husband's g.grandmother was Ellen Phillips, daughter of Thomas Owen Phillips. She married James Lambkin in Sittingbourne, Kent in1883. The christian name Owen is carried down the family line and was one of my father-in-law's names. I haven't sent off for any BMD certificates yet, but the only marriage I can find in the indexes for Thomas Owen Phillips is in Q3 1856 (Haverfordwest vol 11a page 956). This is a marriage to Mary Ann Jenkins. There is a marriage for Mary John to Thomas Phillips in Q4 1858 (Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a page 543). Do you have any certificates, etc to confirm that Mary John was married to Thomas Owen Phillips? Certainly the census entries tally with your info - i.e. Mary says she is born in Newport Pem. Best wishes Denise ________________________________ From: Joan Sims 1 [mailto:joan.sims1@btinternet.com] Sent: Sat 05/12/2009 16:38 To: Denise C. Lambkin; pat Cc: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Pub in Prospect Place, Prendergast Hello Pat and all, I should also love to have any information on Thomas Phillips. Thomas was injured at the Battle of Alma. He was married to Mary John sister of my gg grandfather Morris John from Newport Pem. Please contact me offlist if you would like me to send any information that I have collected. Kind regards, Joan ---- Original Message ----- From: "pat" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: "Denise C. Lambkin" <d.c.lambkin@reading.ac.uk> Cc: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Pub in Prospect Place, Prendergast > Hello Denise > > The Inn was called the Ivorites Arms - it was named after a Friendly > Society "Ivorities". > > Thomas Philips took it over in October 1856. It was located at the Old > Bridge which is included in Prendergast district in the census even > though it is down in Haverfordwest town. > > In 1868 the Inn closed and Tom Phillips moved to Cartlett and opened up > another Inn called the Ivorites Arms. It overlooked the Kilns in > Prospect Place. This area is also included in Prendergast district in > the census. > > I got most of the details from > " The Pubs of Haverfordwest Milford Haven and Mid-west Pembrokeshire" > by Keith Johnson > > where it also states that Thomas Phillips was an uncle of the > "wellknown" W.D Phillips (well-known is my comment!!!) > > Thomas Phillips was the son of James and Ann Phillips who ran the Bull > Inn in Prendergast. > This Inn is still there. > > I can send you more information off-list if you would like. > > I don't think they are linked to my Phillips family from PEM (there are > so many Phillips in Pembrokeshire) but as Haverfordwest was my hometown > I have collected lots of info about people and places. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > > > In message <23A743C1AA8D3A49A71AD0DB5164CAD54560CD@VIME-VS2.rdg- > home.ad.rdg.ac.uk>, Denise C. Lambkin <d.c.lambkin@reading.ac.uk> writes >>Hello >> >>I'm new to this list. I've been working on my own tree for a few years, >>but >>having hit the classic brick wall I've decided to research my husband's >>tree. We >>thought all his ancestors came from Kent, but we've tracked down his g. >>grandmother (Ellen Phillips, b. 1862) to Prendergast, Haverfordwest. >> >>Can anyone help with identifying an inn in Prendergast, Haverfordwest? >> >>I have Thomas Owen Phillips, b. Prendergast about 1825. In the 1861 and >>1871 >>censuses he gives is occupation as inkeeper, but I can't work out what the >>name >>of the inn is. >> >>1861: Chelsea pensioner and innkeeper, Old Bridge, Joorite? Arms Public >>House, >>Prendergast >>1871: Innkeeper, Prospect Place, Joorite? Arms, Prendergast >>1881: Cabinet maker, Prospect Place, Prendergast >>1891: Carpenter, Prospect Place, Prendergast >>1901: Army pensioner, Prospect Place >> >>I'm guessing that, since Thomas continues to live in Prospect Place, he >>didn't >>actually move house, but just closed down the pub bit and took up >>carpentry. So >>it is unlikely that the pub still exists, but I'd love for someone to >>prove me >>wrong. >> >>Thanks >> >>Denise >> >>================================ >>Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>DYFED-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of >>the message > > -- > pat > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >