Hello Roy and Jon, This may be of interest to you. My g.g.grandfather of Carno Montgomeryshire was an agricultural labourer pauper in census of 1841 living with his family. He was aged 35 and had a wife and children. I read an article that agricultural labourers were termed paupers also if their income was so low that they could not exist on it and would be subsidised by the Parish. I wonder why the Parish were prepared to subsidise farmers in their payments to their labourers? Yvonne Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: <jonmein@aol.com> To: <roydavies@gmail.com>; <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Support for paupers and their children before and after1834 > Roy > > I checked back to my email to you about this yesterday and see that I > should have anticipated your later question posed below. > > Post-1836 Narberth Union Poor Law parish records, where extant, will be at > the Pembrokeshire Record Office (PRO). I have looked at the records for > Begelly (an adjoining parish to the south of Narberth). These do contain > interesting material. However, the survival rate for parish poor law > files in > Pembrokeshire is low. Whether anything has survived for Narberth the PRO > will > advise. > > Apologies for the confusion. > > Jon > > > In a message dated 21/01/2010 23:54:55 GMT Standard Time, > roydavies@gmail.com writes: > > > > Therefore if outdoor relief continued to be provided in Pembrokeshire > in certain cases after 1834 (and I don't suppose there would have > been much point in describing someone in the census as a pauper unless > they were in receipt of assistance) where would such information be > recorded? Presumably (and I could be wrong here) the workhouse records > would only have dealt with people in workhouses and not those > receiving outdoor relief. > > Roy > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my original enquiry. The responses have brought various useful resources to my attention and although it seems that the survival of records from Narberth Parish concerning paupers is not very good I will check with the Record Office later. Thanks again, Roy On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM, yvonne evans <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Roy and Jon, > > This may be of interest to you. My g.g.grandfather of Carno Montgomeryshire > was an agricultural labourer pauper in census of 1841 living with his > family. He was aged 35 and had a wife and children. I read an article that > agricultural labourers were termed paupers also if their income was so low > that they could not exist on it and would be subsidised by the Parish. I > wonder why the Parish were prepared to subsidise farmers in their payments > to their labourers? > Yvonne Evans