Dear David You are very welcome. I am pleased to be able to help. Best Wishes Sylvia >----Original Message---- >From: dgbowen@live.co.uk >Date: 10/01/2010 19:41 >To: "Sylvia Birch"<cenquest@tiscali.co.uk> >Subj: Re: [Dyfed] [GLA] question (help) > >Dear Sylvia > > What a reply, i have read the e/mail 5 times my head is >going around and around. > >Terrific amount of information, words fail me. > >How how can i thank you, only by saying it again and again > > thank you > > DGB > >P S I shall certainly come back to you once i have got my head around all >this fantastic information. >-------------------------------------------------- > >From: "Sylvia Birch" <cenquest@tiscali.co.uk> >Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:05 PM >To: <dgbowen@live.co.uk> >Subject: Re: [Dyfed] [GLA] question (help) > >> Dear David >> >> This is the only reference I can find to a Thomas Bowen collier in >> 1861. I do not expect you have seen it otherwise you would have known >> the mothers name. >> >> 1861 Living at Landshipping Quay, Martletwy >> Thomas Bowen, age 52, Coal Miner born Fishguard >> Jane Bowen, wife, age 47 born Martlewy >> All the remaining children are born in Martletwy >> George age 20 Coal Miner, Thomas age 18 Coal Miner, Henry age 16 Coal >> Miner, Martha age 14, Esther age 12, Margaret age 10 scholar, >> Elizabeth age 4 scholar. Also in house was a Lodger named John Bowen >> age 55. >> >> But Jane does not appear to be your Thomas's mother. Thomas senior >> must have married twice, because here they are in 1851. Same family >> different mother >> 1851 Living Oxhouse, Martletwy >> Thomas Bowen age 42 born Ambleston, Margaret wife age 38 born >> Martletwy. >> All the children are shown as born Martletwy and when you look at the >> children above you will see these are the same family. >> John age 16 employed in coal mine, Sarah age 12, George age 10, Thomas >> age 8, Henry age 6, Martha age 4, Hester age 3, Margaret age 1 month. >> >> So your Thomas's mother was Margaret >> Marriage Thomas Bowen married Margaret Cole on the 8th March 1834 at >> Martletwy >> >> 1841 still living Oxhouse Martletwy >> Thomas Bowen age 30, Margaret Bowen age 25, John age 7 and George age >> 6 months. >> Adult ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0 in 1841. >> >> A Margaret Cole was baptised in Martletwy in 1818. >> >> Looking at Thomas and Maria in Pontypridd in 1871 I see they called >> their first daughter Margaret, so I presume that will have been after >> Thomas's mother. But who was William called after their first son, >> maybe a granddad. >> >> There were several families living in Martletwy with the surname Cole >> in 1841. >> Looking at 1851 Living at The Pond Marteltwy >> James Cole, age 43 Coal Miner, Margaret wife age 40, children Thomas >> age 15, James age 14 Coal Miner, William age 12, John age 9, Ann age 7 >> and Margaret age 4. >> >> So if this Margaret Cole was 4 in 1851 by 1864 she would have been >> around 18. >> >> Marriage 7th March 1835 >> James Cole (Clerk)!! married Margaret Phillips at Marteltwy. >> >> Well I think the above should keep you going and give you something to >> work with now. Also you have the names Cole and Phillips to add to >> your tree. >> >> If there is anything else you think I might be able to help you with >> please come back to me. >> >> Good Luck >> Sylvia >> >> >> ................................................................. >> Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, >> Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at >> www.cenquest.co.uk 2009: A year in review - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/2009