Hi Bettye and Carol, I am sorry Carol if I have drawn attention away from your search for "Batine" I should be very interested to know of your search results. I wonder why someone of that name lived in North Pembs? The |Peregrine study has nearly defeated me! and Bettye I have heard of the strong possibility that the name is interchangeable with Perkins. There were many Perkins on the borders of Pembs and Carms in the 19th Century but have now "dried up" One tale given me was that 12 brothers came into Milford Haven as refugees around 1600 and scattered throughout Dyfed((apparently f rom the Netherlands) I was told this by a much respected chapel minister whose mother was a Peregrine of Carms. I wish I had not heard that tale as it has really confused me!! Carol I hope you have a successful search! Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" <lki59595@bigpond.net.au> To: "yvonne evans" <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk>; "Carol Lloyd" <manxie55@hotmail.co.uk>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] BATINE surname query > Dear Yvonne, > > Here is the first paragraph I have written for my own Peregrine..........I > am not saying I am correct.....but this is what my own research has > revealed. > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > Peregrine Devonald was an original.a "one-off". No other Devonald, before > or since, appears to have borne the given name of Peregrine. "Peregrine" > is a fairly rare, though recognised surname in Wales and is said to have > derived from the latinisation of the name Perkins. The "peregrini" were > travellers, pilgrims..Celtic Saints who travelled between Britain and > Ireland. Peregrine Devonald's ancestry may have foundations, at present > unknown, in a family surnamed Peregrine. Perkin de Hoda appears in > Pembrokeshire history, as does David Gwilym Perkin descended from the > illustrious ruler of Deheubarth, Rhys ap Tewdwr. Peregrine could descend > from undiscovered Devonalds, or his unknown mother may have had some > connection to a Perkin. As Peregrine named his son William, it is > possible, and considered most likely, that he descended from William > Devonald, one of the five sons of James Devonald who died in 1584/5 from > his second marriage to Angharad, daughter of Thomas Lloyd of Vagwr Goch, > Llantood. > > ....................From Yvonne....... > . I have ancestors with French sounding name who have >> been in Pembs and South Cards since around 1700. That surname is >> Peregrine.I >> am still trying to sort it out! >> Best wishes >> Yvonne Evans >