Hi Yvonne, It is not a problem, we all need to ask our questions and ask for help :0) Thank you for your input and comments, I too wish you luck with your PEREGRINES, as I have said before on list and will again, Bettye is totally amazing! She is so knowledgable, I wish I had her here with me at this moment to straighten me out :0) Good Luck again, Kind Regards, Carol ---------------------------------------- > From: a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk > To: lki59595@bigpond.net.au; manxie55@hotmail.co.uk; dyfed@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] BATINE surname query > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:20:27 +0000 > > Hi Bettye and Carol, > I am sorry Carol if I have drawn attention away from your search for > "Batine" I should be very interested to know of your search results. I > wonder why someone of that name lived in North Pembs? The |Peregrine study > has nearly defeated me! and Bettye I have heard of the strong possibility > that the name is interchangeable with Perkins. There were many Perkins on > the borders of Pembs and Carms in the 19th Century but have now "dried up" > One tale given me was that 12 brothers came into Milford Haven as refugees > around 1600 and scattered throughout Dyfed((apparently f rom the > Netherlands) I was told this by a much respected chapel minister whose > mother was a Peregrine of Carms. I wish I had not heard that tale as it > has really confused me!! Carol I hope you have a successful search! > Yvonne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" > To: "yvonne evans" ; "Carol Lloyd" > ; > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] BATINE surname query > > >> Dear Yvonne, >> >> Here is the first paragraph I have written for my own Peregrine..........I >> am not saying I am correct.....but this is what my own research has >> revealed. >> Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. >> >> Peregrine Devonald was an original.a "one-off". No other Devonald, before >> or since, appears to have borne the given name of Peregrine. "Peregrine" >> is a fairly rare, though recognised surname in Wales and is said to have >> derived from the latinisation of the name Perkins. The "peregrini" were >> travellers, pilgrims..Celtic Saints who travelled between Britain and >> Ireland. Peregrine Devonald's ancestry may have foundations, at present >> unknown, in a family surnamed Peregrine. Perkin de Hoda appears in >> Pembrokeshire history, as does David Gwilym Perkin descended from the >> illustrious ruler of Deheubarth, Rhys ap Tewdwr. Peregrine could descend >> from undiscovered Devonalds, or his unknown mother may have had some >> connection to a Perkin. As Peregrine named his son William, it is >> possible, and considered most likely, that he descended from William >> Devonald, one of the five sons of James Devonald who died in 1584/5 from >> his second marriage to Angharad, daughter of Thomas Lloyd of Vagwr Goch, >> Llantood. >> >> ....................From Yvonne....... >> . I have ancestors with French sounding name who have >>> been in Pembs and South Cards since around 1700. That surname is >>> Peregrine.I >>> am still trying to sort it out! >>> Best wishes >>> Yvonne Evans >> > _________________________________________________________________ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/