Colin, It is I that has done the index of all and every name, place and relationship drawn from the wills proven at the ECC of St David's for 1600 to 1858. As others have said the border with Carmarthen lies right on the Leat of Garnass Crunwear, the Oriel's home from at least 1725. Because so much is interrelated between the west parishes of Carmarthen and Crunwear I have all indexed all names places and relationships in every will for the parishes of Kyffig and Marros. In addition to these I have also done the parishes of Amroth, Lamphey, Ludchurch, Manorbier, Rhos crowther & St Issells plus Pembroke for 1600 to 1700. This index has proven extremely usefull showing relationships prior to 1800 and even more so prior to P.R.'s As Bettye says The Rec Off., will do a search for you at £15 per hour. I am away untill 11th January researching Oriel's in Paris and Pembrokeshire Military History in Northern France, please email me direct at the email above shown if you think I can assist you further. Rgds Owen V. ORIEL a welsh window on a surname 2009: A year in review - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/2009