Bettye Good to hear from you. Yes there were Selbys at Huan later on and in fact I believe still own the property. The spelling of the Selby name certainly varies and I believe it's largely due to the Pembrokeshire dialect. My own grandfather was born a Selby,married as a Shelby and died as a Selby. There are also many other variations in the spelling due to very bad transcriptions. The witnesses at the marriage of Anne Peregrine and William Shelby are Thomas Shelby , William's brother and a David Evan. I must admit I haven't checked to see whether David had witnessed any other marriages in the church. In 1825 William and Anne were living at Selvetch when son Thomas was baptised and when William died in 1846 they were living in Cwm. Both places as far as I know were in Eglwyswrw. I've found a Benjamin Peregrine bc 1803 living in the Poor house Eglwyswrw in 1851 who gives place of birth as Whitechurch. Anne too is living in the poor house at this time after William's death. Could it be that they were receiving relief from the parish of Whitechurch. Do you know if there are any records which might confirm this? Benjamin gives place of birth in 1861 as Meline which of course borders the parish of Whitechurch. I will try and check out the marriages you suggest to see the witnesses. Thank you again for all your help Best Wishes Yvonne On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:32 AM, LC & BJ Kirkwood <lki59595@bigpond.net.au>wrote: > Dear Yvonne, > > I think we have discussed this previously. The St. Cristiolus church MI's > show later Selbys at Eglwyswrw at Huan > but no Shelbys. This property was previously occupied by the Hughes > family...David Hughes married Margaret Daniel at Eglwyswrw in 1800. > There might be deed information on The Nat. Library site....David Hughes > was > in residence until at least 1820 according to the Land Tax records. > > I presume you refer to Whitechurch-in-Cemais, which is next to Meline..both > are close to Eglwyswrw. > Daniel Peregrine in 1799 at Meline married Dorothy David and Griffith > Peregrine in 1734 married Susanna Deveraux there. > This does not of course mean that Griffith and Daniel were domiciled in > Meline.....it could be their brides' parish. > Have you by any chance purchased these parish register marriage entries (or > perhaps you are in a position to view them)..... > witness names often give further clues. > > Who witnessed Anne Peregrine and William Shelby's marriage? > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yvonne Watson" <yvonne.watson@gmail.com> > To: "yvonne evans" <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> > Cc: <surname_oriel@tiscali.co.uk>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Yvonne Evans ~ Pergines of Pembroke > > > > Hi Yvonne > > I have an Anne Peregrine who married William Shelby in Eglwyswrw on 18 > Nov > > 1823. This is all I know about Anne and haven't been able to find her > > birth > > yet. She was born about 1796 in Whitechurch. > > Any help gratefully received > > Yvonne > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:20 PM, yvonne evans > > <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk>wrote: > > > >> Hello Owen. > >> I shall send you more individual families' names etc. as soon as I sort > >> the > >> papers out. Anne Peregrine b1854 Aberdare was m y g.grandmother who was > >> raised in Llandysilio/Vicars Mill area (near Llanycefn) She was raised > by > >> her grandparents John and Anne Peregrine of Llangwm Lodge Llanycefn It > is > >> difficult to find John and Anne's parents because they were using > >> patrynomic > >> names as well as the name Peregrine. John and Anne were 40+ in 1841. > Anne > >> was born Llanycefn. she may have been an Anne Thomas. In much earlier > >> years > >> at Llandysilio Church there were mostly Perkins christenings and I > >> believe > >> there is a possibility the names were interchangeable but I cannot prove > >> it. > >> Many Perkins were in Llandysilio Cilymaenllwyd areas in 19th century. > >> John > >> Peregrine was born at Llandysilio. I believe they changed religion to > >> nonconformity around 1840 i.e. Rhydwilym or Llandeilo Maenclochog. > >> They were masons as well as their descendants(many masons amongst them) > >> Earliest Peregrine Llandysilio christened around 1720. Off line I can > >> send > >> you Peregrine details compiled by a man of South of England and shall > >> ask > >> his permission this week. Helen (A Lister) has today informed me on > line > >> of > >> her Peregrine ancestors at LLangyndeirne Carms.(also Masons) . Also > >> Llandysilio Peregrines were somehow related to Eglwyswrw Peregrines. I > >> also > >> know there was a Peregrine who was harbour master at Milford but he > >> seemed > >> to be in a quite different class to the humble Peregrines of Llanycefn! > >> Many thanks > >> Yvonne > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <surname_oriel@tiscali.co.uk> > >> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:23 PM > >> Subject: [Dyfed] Yvonne Evans ~ Pergines of Pembroke > >> > >> > >> > I have ancestors with French sounding name who have > >> >> been in Pembs and South Cards since around 1700. That surname is > >> >> Peregrine.I > >> >> am still trying to sort it out! > >> >> Best wishes > >> >> Yvonne Evans > >> > > >> > Yvonne > >> > I am aware of the Pergrine surname in Pembrokeshire from at least the > >> 18th > >> > through 20th century. 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