My impression is that the end result of the completed project will be a single (somewhat large) database of every name/word on the 1900 map of Wales. This would include a grid reference presumably, and any additional information added by contributors from their own knowledge/experience. Gareth Hicks Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Gareth's Help Page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Cwmgors a'r Waun http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cwmgors/Waun.html -----Original Message----- From: Brian Swann Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:29 PM To: 'Gareth Hicks' ; 'Dyfed' Subject: RE: [Dyfed] Place name project I would have thought that the huge 2 Volume work of B. G. Charles would have captured much of this sort of information for Pembrokeshire. ----------------- snip Brian

Dear List Iwan Wmffre's 3 volume "The Place Names of Cardiganshire" (2004) covers Cardiganshire very thoroughly from earliest maps and archives to OS maps etc. Jen ________________________________ From: Gareth Hicks <tirbach@clara.co.uk> To: Dyfed <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 25 October 2013, 13:35 Subject: [Dyfed] Place name project Thanks to a Genuki colleague for drawing this to my attention. http://www.cymru1900wales.org/ Partners in the project include the NLW, the University of Wales  and RCAHMW The introductory  text includes; "We need help in collecting all the names of places and features in Wales from the Ordnance Survey’s six-inch to a mile maps of c. 1900. Why? Because the names of places are a vital key to unlocking the social and linguistic history of the land. ............................... You might think that it was easy to come by a list of all the places in Wales, or Britain, but at this scale it is not – and, of course, the maps from a century ago preserve many historic names now lost. .................................. For one thing, it is intended that the Wales 1900 gazetteer will form the backbone of a national collection of the country’s historic place-names, comprising everything from the earliest medieval records to the field-names still known to modern farming families. In addition, there is here a huge potential to tap into local knowledge and memory. That is why, as well as simply recording the names as they appear on these historic maps, we want you to tell us more: do you know stories about the origin of the name, true or apocryphal? do you want to record other versions of the place-name (especially ones we might not otherwise easily find), such as a form used by your grandparents? or do you remember the same place going by another name altogether? ..................................." There appear to be 126 volunteers already involved. Gareth Hicks Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Gareth's Help Page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Cwmgors a'r Waun http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cwmgors/Waun.html ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would have thought that the huge 2 Volume work of B. G. Charles would have captured much of this sort of information for Pembrokeshire. ----------------- There is a very interesting project for Ireland, run by a company called Irish Origenes, which at first I was rather sceptical about, but I have now moved into the neutral camp. http://www.irishorigenes.com/ Essentially you take a 37 marker Y-DNA test, and then they compare your DNA profile to others within a database called Y-Search, which is in the public domain. Then they select the most uncommon surname in that group to localise your genetic homeland. The detail is explained on his website. He has English and Scottish Origenes but not yet Welsh Origenes. Any serious population geneticist would laugh at this strategy, but when folk did not move around so much, but just around their nearest market town in many cases, it is not so daft. Brian -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Hicks Sent: 25 October 2013 13:36 To: Dyfed Subject: [Dyfed] Place name project Thanks to a Genuki colleague for drawing this to my attention. http://www.cymru1900wales.org/ Partners in the project include the NLW, the University of Wales and RCAHMW The introductory text includes "We need help in collecting all the names of places and features in Wales from the Ordnance Survey’s six-inch to a mile maps of c. 1900. Why? Because the names of places are a vital key to unlocking the social and linguistic history of the land. ............................... You might think that it was easy to come by a list of all the places in Wales, or Britain, but at this scale it is not – and, of course, the maps from a century ago preserve many historic names now lost. .................................. For one thing, it is intended that the Wales 1900 gazetteer will form the backbone of a national collection of the country’s historic place-names, comprising everything from the earliest medieval records to the field-names still known to modern farming families. In addition, there is here a huge potential to tap into local knowledge and memory. That is why, as well as simply recording the names as they appear on these historic maps, we want you to tell us more: do you know stories about the origin of the name, true or apocryphal? do you want to record other versions of the place-name (especially ones we might not otherwise easily find), such as a form used by your grandparents? or do you remember the same place going by another name altogether? ..................................." There appear to be 126 volunteers already involved. Gareth Hicks Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Gareth's Help Page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Cwmgors a'r Waun http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cwmgors/Waun.html ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to a Genuki colleague for drawing this to my attention. http://www.cymru1900wales.org/ Partners in the project include the NLW, the University of Wales and RCAHMW The introductory text includes; "We need help in collecting all the names of places and features in Wales from the Ordnance Survey’s six-inch to a mile maps of c. 1900. Why? Because the names of places are a vital key to unlocking the social and linguistic history of the land. ............................... You might think that it was easy to come by a list of all the places in Wales, or Britain, but at this scale it is not – and, of course, the maps from a century ago preserve many historic names now lost. .................................. For one thing, it is intended that the Wales 1900 gazetteer will form the backbone of a national collection of the country’s historic place-names, comprising everything from the earliest medieval records to the field-names still known to modern farming families. In addition, there is here a huge potential to tap into local knowledge and memory. That is why, as well as simply recording the names as they appear on these historic maps, we want you to tell us more: do you know stories about the origin of the name, true or apocryphal? do you want to record other versions of the place-name (especially ones we might not otherwise easily find), such as a form used by your grandparents? or do you remember the same place going by another name altogether? ..................................." There appear to be 126 volunteers already involved. Gareth Hicks Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Gareth's Help Page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Cwmgors a'r Waun http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cwmgors/Waun.html

Hello Everyone I have just tried http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ and it is now working. I got in touch with the Chief Archivist and she informed me that it had officially been down between 2pm and 6pm on Saturday for server maintenance work. Perhaps it took longer than they thought. Anyway it is now back up and running for all to enjoy. I find that the same thing happens from time to time on the other useful Pembrokeshire CC websites when the are being updated and you just have to be patient and keep trying. Municipal Cemetery Burials - http://www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?id=7224 - covers Llanion, (Pembroke Dock); St Michael's (Pembroke); Honeyborough (Milford); City Road (Haverfordwest); Monkton and Freystrop Cremations - Parc Gwyn (Narberth) Book of Remembrance - http://sites.bookofremembrance.eu/index.php?site=parcgwyn&task=name Kind regards Joy

The "parent" link is at [1]http://pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?nav=107,1447,1860&parent_director y_id=646 but clicking on the link to the catalogue doesn't seem to work. Liz On 20/10/2013 18:37, Barry Rees wrote: I also tried to get the link to work, but did find the following link to the Archive Wales website for holdings in the Pembs Record Office: [2]http://arcw.llgc.org.uk/anw/browse_repository.php?inst_id=32?&L=0 Hope this helps. Barry Rees -----Original Message----- From: Gerry Lewis Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:36 PM To: Myrna ; [3]DYFED@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] pembrokeshire record office I also tried and failed, but was given the opportunity to fill in a questionnaire, so I've told them what I think of their website(!) Gerry Lewis On 20/10/2013 00:58, "Myrna" [4]<m5y13@ida.net> wrote: Dear Kynne You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. [5]http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ Kind regards Joy I tried this link and all that I get is "this page can't be displayed". I have been trying to get into it for two days now. Does anyone know what is going on? Have they moved the link? Any help would be appreciated. Myrna Idaho USA ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources [6]http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7]DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources [8]http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [9]DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?nav=107,1447,1860&parent_directory_id=646 2. http://arcw.llgc.org.uk/anw/browse_repository.php?inst_id=32?&L=0 3. mailto:DYFED@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:m5y13@ida.net 5. http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ 6. http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html 7. mailto:DYFED-request@rootsweb.com 8. http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html 9. mailto:DYFED-request@rootsweb.com

I also tried to get the link to work, but did find the following link to the Archive Wales website for holdings in the Pembs Record Office: http://arcw.llgc.org.uk/anw/browse_repository.php?inst_id=32?&L=0 Hope this helps. Barry Rees -----Original Message----- From: Gerry Lewis Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:36 PM To: Myrna ; DYFED@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] pembrokeshire record office I also tried and failed, but was given the opportunity to fill in a questionnaire, so I've told them what I think of their website(!) Gerry Lewis On 20/10/2013 00:58, "Myrna" <m5y13@ida.net> wrote: >Dear Kynne > > > >You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. > >None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives > >will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. > > > >http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ > > > >Kind regards > >Joy > > > >I tried this link and all that I get is "this page can't be displayed". I >have been trying to get into it for two days now. Does anyone know what >is >going on? Have they moved the link? > > > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Myrna > >Idaho USA > > >================================ >Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >[Dec2012] > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also tried and failed, but was given the opportunity to fill in a questionnaire, so I've told them what I think of their website(!) Gerry Lewis On 20/10/2013 00:58, "Myrna" <m5y13@ida.net> wrote: >Dear Kynne > > > >You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. > >None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives > >will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. > > > >http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ > > > >Kind regards > >Joy > > > >I tried this link and all that I get is "this page can't be displayed". I >have been trying to get into it for two days now. Does anyone know what >is >going on? Have they moved the link? > > > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Myrna > >Idaho USA > > >================================ >Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >[Dec2012] > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Adrian Nov 5 1848.  Church register entry William Evans, of Cayo, Father William, Butcher, Mother Martha Address - Kings Head, Cayo From findmypast. Best wishes Jen Birth Day:- Fathers Forenames:Wm Mothers Forenames:Martha Page:23 Record source:Carmarthen baptisms - Transcripts ________________________________ From: Adrian <adrianp7@talktalk.net> To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 20 October 2013, 11:38 Subject: [Dyfed] WILLIAM EVANS OF CAYO, CARMARTHENSHIRE According to various census returns and the details shown in the parish register when he married, William EVANS was born in Cayo (Conwil Caio) between 1849 and 1852. His father, also William, was a butcher. I have attempted to locate the details of his baptism on Freereg and the LDS Familysearch without success (the latter does show a number of William EVANS but does not include the names of the parents!!). I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has come across this family. Adrian Yorkshire ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to various census returns and the details shown in the parish register when he married, William EVANS was born in Cayo (Conwil Caio) between 1849 and 1852. His father, also William, was a butcher. I have attempted to locate the details of his baptism on Freereg and the LDS Familysearch without success (the latter does show a number of William EVANS but does not include the names of the parents!!). I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has come across this family. Adrian Yorkshire

Try this link, Myrna. [1]http://www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?id=21569 Dai On 20/10/2013 00:58, Myrna wrote: Dear Kynne You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. [2]http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ Kind regards Joy I tried this link and all that I get is "this page can't be displayed". I have been trying to get into it for two days now. Does anyone know what is going on? Have they moved the link? Any help would be appreciated. Myrna Idaho USA ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources [3]http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [D ec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [4]DYFED-request@rootsweb .com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?id=21569 2. http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ 3. http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html 4. mailto:DYFED-request@rootsweb.com

Dear Kynne You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ Kind regards Joy I tried this link and all that I get is "this page can't be displayed". I have been trying to get into it for two days now. Does anyone know what is going on? Have they moved the link? Any help would be appreciated. Myrna Idaho USA

Does anyone on this list know where John and Shiela Rowlands 2nd Edition of their book: The Surnames of Wales is towards being finished. The last I heard in 2013 was that it was about 9 months away from completion. As some of you may know, Sheila has not been well for many years, and I would love to see this update completed. For those of you not aware, Sheila was made a Master Craftsman (Craftswoman) of the Guild of One-Name Studies at their AGM held at Cardiff in April of this year. But she and her husband did not attend. Brian

Thank you all for the descriptions of the volume re parish records. Anna in California ----- Original Message ----- From: dyfed-request@rootsweb.com To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 07:00:20 -0000 (UTC) Subject: DYFED Digest, Vol 8, Issue 219 Please delete any irrelevant notes when replying to this digest. Today's Topics: 1. Re: DYFED Digest, Vol 8, Issue 218 (Glyn Macken) 2. Parish Chest Records (Joy) 3. Parish Chest Records (Joy) 4. Re: Parish Chest Records (Lynne Ingalls) -*************************************

Lynne, The starting point for the records you're looking for (if they survive) is Pembrokeshire Archives, for which you have already been provided a link to their online catalog. The National Library of Wales may have other documents. The National Archives Manorial Documents register http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/mdr/ will tell you what manorial records survive and where they are. Helen www.colevalleygirl.co.uk www.genquiry.com moderator, www.genealogy.stackexchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Ingalls Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:21 PM To: Joy ; dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Parish Chest Records Joy and others - I am looking for records other than census and bmd's. I would like to know if Quarter Session and Petty Session records exist for Pembrokeshire, also records of the Assizes, Order Books, records of the Overseers of the Poor, Settlement and Removal records, Settlement Examinations, Freemen's Rolls, land, hearth, and window, and hair powder tax assessments, local population listings other than the census, Vestry minutes, Church Warden accounts, manorial surveys, etc. Is anyone familiar with these records? Thanks so much for responding, Joy. Lynne in Tucson

Lynne May be helpful to your query - I guess you're aware of Basil Hughes's many books on Pem. Possible you didn't know he's now in the process of putting these on amazon's kindle books. Searching the latter site brings up 20 entries. http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/280-4981206-4495539?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=basil+hughes Gareth Hicks Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Gareth's Help Page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Cwmgors a'r Waun http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cwmgors/Waun.html -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Ingalls Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:21 PM To: Joy ; dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Parish Chest Records Joy and others - I am looking for records other than census and bmd's. I would like to know if Quarter Session and Petty Session records exist for Pembrokeshire, also records of the Assizes, Order Books, records of the Overseers of the Poor, Settlement and Removal records, Settlement Examinations, Freemen's Rolls, land, hearth, and window, and hair powder tax assessments, local population listings other than the census, Vestry minutes, Church Warden accounts, manorial surveys, etc. Is anyone familiar with these records? Thanks so much for responding, Joy. Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Joy Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:42 AM To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] Parish Chest Records Dear Kynne You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ Kind regards Joy ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joy and others - I am looking for records other than census and bmd's. I would like to know if Quarter Session and Petty Session records exist for Pembrokeshire, also records of the Assizes, Order Books, records of the Overseers of the Poor, Settlement and Removal records, Settlement Examinations, Freemen's Rolls, land, hearth, and window, and hair powder tax assessments, local population listings other than the census, Vestry minutes, Church Warden accounts, manorial surveys, etc. Is anyone familiar with these records? Thanks so much for responding, Joy. Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Joy Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:42 AM To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] Parish Chest Records Dear Kynne You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ Kind regards Joy ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Lynne Sorry about typo Joy

Dear Kynne You might be interested in the Pembrokeshire Archives online catalogue. None of their material is available online but the staff at the Archives will do paid research at a very reasonable rate. http://records.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/calmview/ Kind regards Joy

The link kindly provided by Jen leads to the page on which the book may be purchased. The following link leads to the home page and a description of the book. http:www.dyfedfhs.org.uk Glyn Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:35:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Anna B <elijahf1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] DYFED Digest, Vol 8, Issue 211 How do I find the Dyfed Family History Society website so as to learn more about and/or purchase the book(s) re Parish Churches and Nonconformist Chapels of Wales described? Anna in California Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 18:47:57 +0100 (BST) From: Jennifer Cairns <jenmathias@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] DYFED Digest, Vol 8, Issue 211 Dear Anna, This link should see you in the right spot. Jen http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/for-sale.php