Dear Gwyn It is possible that there was a history of inn keeping in the Reynolds family as you mention below. Here is the extract from Keith Johnson's book on the Salutation in Haverfordwest. Redevelopment of this part of town in the 1830's led to the opening of the Salutation. The building of the New Bridge prompted the opening of the substantial coaching inn, and the first licensee was a horse trader named Fenwick. In 1838 the Salutation was taken over by Walter Reynolds who declared in an advert in the local paper that he 'hoped to be favoured with that support which his predecessor so liberally received'. He evidently was, because he was still landlord in 1865. An auctioneer by profession, Reynolds was also a leading figure in the Odd Fellows movement in Haverfordwest, a town councillor, and the official Welsh interpreter for the local courts. The Misses Caroline and Mary Reynolds held sway here from 1868 to 1874, but from 1881 until her death in 1892 Miss Caroline had charge on her own. The Salutation is today known as the County Hotel and can be seen just as you enter Haverfordwest. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Gwyn Hughes To: sylvia@cenquest.co.uk Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: RE: [Dyfed] Pem: Thomas Reynolds Hi Sylvia, I have to wonder if there is a history of inkeeping in the Reynolds family after reading the extract from your e-mail because there was a Walter Reynolds who ran the Salutation Inn at Haverfordwest. Gwyn Hughes > From: sylvia@cenquest.co.uk > To: rachel-boyd@sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:46:12 +0100 > CC: DYFED@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Pem: Thomas Reynolds > > Dear Rachel > > There is mention of Thomas Reynolds in Keith Johnstons book The Pubs of > Haverfordwest. Here is the relevant paragraph for you. > > Hill Street was once known as King Street and especially in its upper > reaches was one of the more fashionable streets in the town. Many of the > county's gentry families kept town houses in Hill Street, to which they > would repair during the season of balls and dinner parties, steeplechases > and hunt meets. In the 1820s it became the first street in town to be paved > and duly became a popular place for the young men and women of the town to > promenade on fine evenings. It was a mainly residential street, and many > well to do townsfolk chose to live in the elegant three story houses, which > graced the upper part of the street. > The lower part of Hill Street, being in close proximity to the towns main > fairs and markets, was a less desirable neighbourhood and this was where > most of the hostelries were to be found. Going up the street, away from the > Market Street junction, the first property on the left past the cinema (the > old corn market) was the Fox and Hounds. Thomas Reynolds kept the pub from > 1826 to 1852 and in the 1831 election he entertained voters on behalf of the > Orange party; three years later he was still trying to get his money back. > His widow Mrs Jenny Reynolds was the popular landlady from 1858 to 1876. > > Best Wishes > Sylvia > ................................................................. > Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, > Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at > www.cenquest.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rachel Boyd" <rachel-boyd@sbcglobal.net> > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. Get Them Now

Hi: How do you know if the Irish woman was a Catholic? She could have been Northern Irish or a Presbyterian. They were in Ireland early - 1690's. If you can find the marriage on the parish registers (or they don't exist) then I would check wills and deeds. You might not find their marriage but you might find them living together as man and wife. I would also look at estate records. Which estate was in that area. They might be listed. Doesn't mean they owned the land; they could have been listed as being a tenant farmer. You don't know until you try looking for them. The only Dinas I can recall in Pembrokeshire is Dinas Head just north of Fishguard. However, it could be the name of a farm. Good luck, Annie Los Angeles In a message dated 30/07/2009 12:43:05 GMT Standard Time, a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk writes: Hello All, I have made this enquiry before, but have heard nothing further. How usual was it for inter marriages between Pembrokeshire men and Irish women around late eighteenth century? I have reason to believe there is an Irish connection in my tree(family story) I am looking for marriage of a John Oliver and Mary, John being of Dinas. Cannot find this in Pembrokeshire. Would there be a great difficulty in such an Irish/Welsh marriage because of religion etc? or would it not have mattered? The marriage would have taken place around 1794 Thank you very much Yvonne Evans

Dear Gwyn Do you know anything else about William and Catherine Reynolds. When they died for instance. As you say your Catherine was married in Haverfordwest could the following be her parents? The 1841 shows Living at Castle Street, St Martin, Haverfordwest William Reynolds, age 80, occupation Hat Maker, born in Pembs. Catherine Reynolds, age 75, not born in County. The 1841 rounds ages down to the nearest 0 or 5 and place of birth is only given as Y or N, meaning Yes or No for if born in County or not. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwyn Hughes" <gwynhughes63@hotmail.co.uk> To: "Dyfed Rootsweb" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Catherine Reynolds > > Hello, > > After years of trying to find my Harris roots in Carmarthenshire I am on > the trail of my Reynolds connections in Pembrokeshire. I know when my gggg > grandmother, Catherine Reynolds, was born, daughter of William and > Catherine Reynolds (nee Jones, I think). She died at Pwllheli in 1848 aged > 58, so it's around 1790, but I am trying to find any other siblings she > may have. She married in the Haverfordwest area in 1826, but not totally > sure if she was born there. > > My thanks to Rachel Boyd for forwarding this message from the old Pembroke > list. > > Gwyn > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and > emoticons. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Rachel There is mention of Thomas Reynolds in Keith Johnstons book The Pubs of Haverfordwest. Here is the relevant paragraph for you. Hill Street was once known as King Street and especially in its upper reaches was one of the more fashionable streets in the town. Many of the county's gentry families kept town houses in Hill Street, to which they would repair during the season of balls and dinner parties, steeplechases and hunt meets. In the 1820s it became the first street in town to be paved and duly became a popular place for the young men and women of the town to promenade on fine evenings. It was a mainly residential street, and many well to do townsfolk chose to live in the elegant three story houses, which graced the upper part of the street. The lower part of Hill Street, being in close proximity to the towns main fairs and markets, was a less desirable neighbourhood and this was where most of the hostelries were to be found. Going up the street, away from the Market Street junction, the first property on the left past the cinema (the old corn market) was the Fox and Hounds. Thomas Reynolds kept the pub from 1826 to 1852 and in the 1831 election he entertained voters on behalf of the Orange party; three years later he was still trying to get his money back. His widow Mrs Jenny Reynolds was the popular landlady from 1858 to 1876. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel Boyd" <rachel-boyd@sbcglobal.net>

Thank you Dai and Angela, for your help. Sadly, she was not there. Cathryn

Hello, After years of trying to find my Harris roots in Carmarthenshire I am on the trail of my Reynolds connections in Pembrokeshire. I know when my gggg grandmother, Catherine Reynolds, was born, daughter of William and Catherine Reynolds (nee Jones, I think). She died at Pwllheli in 1848 aged 58, so it's around 1790, but I am trying to find any other siblings she may have. She married in the Haverfordwest area in 1826, but not totally sure if she was born there. My thanks to Rachel Boyd for forwarding this message from the old Pembroke list. Gwyn _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/

Kitty If you wish to search St Twynells for yourself refer to the following website; http://www.revjones.fsnet.co.uk/stackgrpreg/register.htm Be carefull this is an abreviated listing and does contain errors. For Stackpole, I have re index'd the whole of the parish registers with less errors and more information. Folk on the Castlemartin perninsula were apt to use what ever parish church was closest at hand at the time irrespective of which parish they resided in, so a search of Bosh, St Petrox and Stackpole can well yeild results even if the family was residing in St Twynells at a given time. Alot of the families from these parishes also show up at Pembs St Michael and to a lessor degree at Pembs St Mary for which I have index'd both full parish registers 1711 to 1950, along with Burgess of Pembroke Borough 1678 to 2006. Rgds Owen Vaughan ORIEL a welsh window on a surname How safe is your data? Find out more about the issues at Tiscali Security Centre - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/security _______________________________________________________________________

I'm wondering about a nic-name for James. In a family letter about a death of my ggg grandparents (1866) one of the guests was listed as Jenny Tymaur. Listers have told me that this means big house. With so many Tymaurs around I wouldn't know which it was and I've never found a Jenny. However. Recently I found that my ggg grandmother had a sister named Frances (or Francis) Llewellyn. I found a Francis Llewellyn in 1861 living on Tymaur Street with her husband James. I wondered if possibly the transcriber of the letter (originally in Welsh) could have made a mistake, but I doubt they could have gotten Jenny from James. They may have gotten Jenny from Jamy or something similar however. Does anyone know of the use of a nic-name for the name James?

Thank you Sylvia for your help regarding the Edwards family. Much appreciated! Thankyou. Regards Kitty

HARDING?Phyllis and Nancy. ages 3 and 5 arrived from Cape Town S A on29 Apr 1911 and on the 1911 census were living with their Grandmother Mary Robins (nee Lewis c1845) at Brecon St Cardiff and an Aunt in Radnor St Cardiff, i think the little girls belonged to another daughter Mary c1876 but cant seem to find any information after 1881 census. Please can anyone help with information as to what happened to them ie marriages etc any information would be great, and I thank you in advance. Regards Brenda

Retrospectives: Wind Street, Swansea, GLA; Woodfield St, Morriston,, GLA; Henrhyd Falls, Penycae, BRE Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A repeat of the recent showing of a walk down Wind Street in Swansea, in the county of Glamorgan (twelve pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in July 1998. 2. A view on a rainy day of Woodfield Street, Morriston, on the northern outskirts of Swansea, in the county of Glamorgan (one picture). This feature was one of the first shown on 'Images of Wales' back in December 1997. 3. A visit to the spectacular Henrhyd Falls near Penycae in the Brecon Beacons National Park, county of Breconshire (two pictures). This feature, from December 1997, is also from the early days of 'Images of Wales'. As usual, these webpages will be on display on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Hi Gwyn, this PEM list is not active anymore, all activity has been combined with Carmarthen and Cardigan lists under the Dyfed list. I will forward this inquiry for you. I will be very interested in the outcome of this line of investigation, as I have a strong Reynolds tie to H'west but haven't been able to go further back than Thomas Reynolds b. abt 1786 Herbrandston, Pem. I don't know who his parents were or if he had siblings.  In 1841 he was a farmer and publican on Hill St, H'west St Thomas. Rachel Boyd CT, USA ________________________________ From: Gwyn Hughes <gwynhughes63@hotmail.co.uk> To: Pembrokeshire Rootsweb <wls-pembrokeshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 9:57:57 AM Subject: [PEM] Catherine Reynolds Hello, After years of trying to find my Harris roots in Carmarthenshire I am on the trail of my Reynolds connections in Pembrokeshire. I know when my gggg grandmother, Catherine Reynolds, was born, daughter of William and Catherine Reynolds (nee Jones, I think). She died at Pwllheli in 1848 aged 58, so it's around 1790, but I am trying to find any other siblings she may have. She married in the Haverfordwest area in 1826, but not totally sure if she was born there. Gwyn _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ ====================================== You are likely to get inreased responses if you repost your message to the Dyfed list.  See http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cathryn, If you use the Advanced Search on the 1911 census, enter the place as Cilwndeg and enter the county and subdistrict to make sure you get the right property, You can then go through the alphabet for the surnames beginning with A, B, C, etc. and find everyone who was at the property. Good hunting! Dai Cathryn Davies wrote: > We are looking for a relative who was a dairymaid in the early 19th C. > Unfortunately her name was Mary Anne Thomas. We know she was working > for a big estate near Boncath, and think it might have been Cilwendeg. > Please does anyone know the name of the owner in 1911, so I can try the > census? I'm afraid it might have been Jones, from the stuff I've > googled. Or failing that, would there be lists of estate workers > available anywhere? Thanks, Cathryn > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

We are looking for a relative who was a dairymaid in the early 19th C. Unfortunately her name was Mary Anne Thomas. We know she was working for a big estate near Boncath, and think it might have been Cilwendeg. Please does anyone know the name of the owner in 1911, so I can try the census? I'm afraid it might have been Jones, from the stuff I've googled. Or failing that, would there be lists of estate workers available anywhere? Thanks, Cathryn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Sims 1" <joan.sims1@btinternet.com> To: "Dyfed" <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Pem wrestling tournaments > Hello listers, > Hope you don't mind but I am asking the same question again in the hope > that someone has some information. I was told that James Phillips born > 1854 in Castlemartin Pem was a champion wrestler in the sport known as > "Catch -as catch- can" and that there were ten yearly tournaments before > the First World War.If anyone knows anything about the tournaments I > should love to know. > Regards, > Joan Presumably you've read the latest account at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_wrestling. Since there was no overall body controlling the sport on a national or an international basis, and "the rules of Catch [Catch-as-Catch-Can] Wrestling would change from venue to venue", I'd guess that each tournament would have been organised locally. The majority of contestants were probably drawn from a fairly limited geographical area - a bit like Cumberland and Westmorland wresting today http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumberland_and_Westmorland_wrestling, which still has competitors in the annual Grasmere village show who even now are designated as "World Champions" http://grasmeresportsandshow.co.uk/Wrestling-Roger-Robson's-NEWS-48.htm). Your best chance of finding references would probably be in the local press - unless you were fortunate enough to find such contests being mentioned in personal diaries or in private correspondence. If you were extremely lucky, an old programme for the local sports day might turn up one day, although it probably wouldn't have very much detail at so early a date. There seem to be quite a lot of sporting organisations which have failed to preserve their earlier records very systematically (beyond what appeared in the newspapers) - presumably because they never imagined that these could have any lasting interest. George Owen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Owen_of_Henllys apparently provided some references to wrestling and various other sports taking place in Pembrokeshire during Elizabethan times. AJ PS Some users (like myself) who downloaded Internet Explorer version 8 are apparently experiencing a number of difficulties, including the opening of some Wikipedia articles. These should still open with IE7, or with other browsers.

I am looking for a Hugh Edwards married to a Elizabeth ???? One of their children was George Edwards christened 23 July 1816 in Twynnells, Pembrokeshire. Any further information would be much appreciated. Many thanks Kitty

Dear Kitty There are other St Twynnels baptisms for this family. Ann Edwards, parents Hugh & Elizabeth baptised 28th March 1819. Thomas Edwards, same parents, baptised 15th November 1821. Margaret Edwards, same parents, baptised 25th July 1824 Burials Hugh Edwards at St Twynnels on the 22nd November 1847, age 68. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitty Morris" <tru_blu@westnet.com.au> To: "DYFED" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:27 AM Subject: [Dyfed] Edwards in Pembrokeshire >I am looking for a Hugh Edwards married to a Elizabeth ???? One of their >children was George Edwards christened 23 July 1816 in Twynnells, >Pembrokeshire. Any further information would be much appreciated. Many >thanks Kitty > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Yvonne, Have you considered that the marriage record might not have survived? It's a painful thought, I know. Looking at the Dyfed FHS fiche of pre-1813 marriages for Cemais Hundred (which includes Dinas parish), I see that it only includes marriages 1676-1791 and 1805-1811. This strongly suggests that there is a gap in the record at the NLW just where you are looking for your 1794 marriage. Unfortunately, gaps of this size are not mentioned in the book Parish Registers of Wales. And the pre-1799 BTs for the diocese have also been lost, with few exceptions. Regards Bill G-J In a message dated 30/07/2009 12:43:05 GMT Standard Time, a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk writes: Hello All, I have made this enquiry before, but have heard nothing further. How usual was it for inter marriages between Pembrokeshire men and Irish women around late eighteenth century? I have reason to believe there is an Irish connection in my tree(family story) I am looking for marriage of a John Oliver and Mary, John being of Dinas. Cannot find this in Pembrokeshire. Would there be a great difficulty in such an Irish/Welsh marriage because of religion etc? or would it not have mattered? The marriage would have taken place around 1794 Thank you very much Yvonne Evans ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone on this list who has an interest in the C19 Welsh settlers in Patagonia might like to know that NINNAU (a newspaper for the Welsh in North America) has published my account of meeting the descendants of Lewis Davies (Aberystwyth) in Puerto Madryn last March. Contact me direct for the text document. Brian Davies -- Professor Emeritus B E Davies PhD, C. Chem, FRSC 107 Teeside Drive Anderson SC 29625-6937 USA tel: (864) 646-7876 alt. email: bdavies@clemson.edu

Hi . Whilst looking through an old newspaper cutting of the funeral of a family member in 1959 ,I came across a Mrs N Oliver, aunt ,Llanarth and a Mrs B Lewis ,aunt, New Quay,as two of the mourners. I wonder if there's anyone on the list researching the Oliver and Lewis family from these two places that might know anything of these two ladies .I'm trying to piece together the Evans/Williams ancestors from the areas mentioned and wondered if their maiden names could have been either Evans or Williams . ?Thanks Buddug