Retrospectives: Pembroke Castle, PEM; Storm Damage, Gower, GLA Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A two-page exploration of the 1000-year-old Pembroke Castle in the county of Pembrokeshire (fourteen pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in July 1999. 2. A visit to Gower (county of Glamorgan) on the day following the Great Storm of 4th January 1998 (six pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in January 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

I could find nothing in The Times on-line archive, Roger. Dai ROGER M. EVANS wrote: > I find that according to the 1901 census one of my connections, thankfully remote, wound up in Dartmoor. > > In 1891 the family was farming in Crai, Defynnock but by 1901 the wife and children are living in Brynaman. > > Is there any way that I can find out what was the reason for his incarceration? > > He was David Bowen MOSES, born Llywel 1859. > > Many thanks in advance > > Roger M Evans > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I find that according to the 1901 census one of my connections, thankfully remote, wound up in Dartmoor. In 1891 the family was farming in Crai, Defynnock but by 1901 the wife and children are living in Brynaman. Is there any way that I can find out what was the reason for his incarceration? He was David Bowen MOSES, born Llywel 1859. Many thanks in advance Roger M Evans

I agree with all the gratitude due to all parties and found what may be another Gibbon family in the probate of 1703 who seems to have had some property. Also it is a very comprehensive summary of the history of Wales. My personal query was why no reference to the gas lighting which started all over the country as well as Wales in the early part of the 19th.c.? Of course, I am particularly interested in that subject because after passing an individual Act of Parliament for Haverfordwest in the reign of William !V the town was allowed to install the Gasworks of which my great-grandfather, Ebenezer Gibbon, was the first "Superintendent". Vera

I agree and found what may be another Gibbon family in the probate of 1703 who seems to have had some property. Also it is a very comprehensive summary of the history of Wales. My personal query was why no reference to the gas lighting which started all over the country as well as Wales in the early part of the 19th.c.? Of course, I am particularly interested in that subject because after passing an individual Act of Parliament for Haverfordwest in the reign of William !V the town was allowed to install the Gasworks of which my great-grandfather, Ebenezer Gibbon, was the first "Superintendent". Vera

Heartfelt congratulations to all three of you!! Your work has certainly made my Welsh research much easier, as it has for hundreds of others! Many, many thanks for your knowledge, your expertise, and your willingnesss to share it. God bless you! Venita Homepage: Family History and Other Fascinations http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/home.html My Views of Wales http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/Travels/Travels.html Just Picture It - Wales (Links to other photo sites) http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/Photolinks/photolinks.html On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Gareth wrote: > A real pleasure for me to see that Genuki Wales got a nice write-up > in the > September issue of Your Family Tree magazine. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > It contains about 5000 separate pages and is of course maintained by 3 > volunteers;- John Ball, Vic Roberts and > myself. > > Also, under a heading of "Top three; Unsung Heroes" and a reference to > 'hidden gems' - lo and behold is my very own Timeline ! > Now that is really flattering :-) > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls6.html > > > > Gareth > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >

Dear Listers, Gareth Hicks's modesty prevented him from pointing out that Gareth himself is responsible for ten of the thirteen county pages on GENUKI Wales (over 4600 of the 5000 pages), so it is he who should take most of the credit for its success. Well done Gareth! Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> To: "Dyfed" <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Genuki Wales A real pleasure for me to see that Genuki Wales got a nice write-up in the September issue of Your Family Tree magazine. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ It contains about 5000 separate pages and is of course maintained by 3 volunteers;- John Ball, Vic Roberts and myself. Also, under a heading of "Top three; Unsung Heroes" and a reference to 'hidden gems' - lo and behold is my very own Timeline ! Now that is really flattering :-) http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls6.html Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

Dear Gareth, John, Vic   Thank you all for all your hard work, which I know is fully appreciated by everyone who uses both Genuki and this discussion list.   Jen [ps thanks for the timeline Gareth - I'd missed that - looks very useful] --- On Fri, 21/8/09, John Ball <john@jlb2005.plus.com> wrote: From: John Ball <john@jlb2005.plus.com> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Genuki Wales To: "Dyfed List" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, 21 August, 2009, 8:51 AM Dear Listers, Gareth Hicks's modesty prevented him from pointing out that Gareth himself is responsible for ten of the thirteen county pages on GENUKI Wales (over 4600 of the 5000 pages), so it is he who should take most of the credit for its success. Well done Gareth! Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> To: "Dyfed" <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Genuki Wales A real pleasure for me to see that Genuki Wales got a nice write-up in the September issue of Your Family Tree magazine. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ It contains about 5000 separate pages and is of course maintained by 3 volunteers;- John Ball, Vic Roberts and myself. Also, under a heading of "Top three; Unsung Heroes" and a reference to 'hidden gems' - lo and behold is my very own Timeline ! Now that is really flattering :-) http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls6.html Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers..... The Earl of Lisburne, Ernest A Vaughan, is listed as being on the 1851 census in London. However I have failed to find him on ancestry in my local library. I am trying to see whether he and his wife were accompanied by any of his household from Crosswood, where I am hoping my t Gdmother was employed at that time. Does any lister know where he would have stayed? did he have a townhouse in London at this time. Regards Parry Edwards GFHS 22

A real pleasure for me to see that Genuki Wales got a nice write-up in the September issue of Your Family Tree magazine. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ It contains about 5000 separate pages and is of course maintained by 3 volunteers;- John Ball, Vic Roberts and myself. Also, under a heading of "Top three; Unsung Heroes" and a reference to 'hidden gems' - lo and behold is my very own Timeline ! Now that is really flattering :-) http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls6.html Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

I wonder if someone could help me find the death of my great grandmother Margaret LEWIS who lived at 3 Church Road, Burry Port in the early 1900's. I believe she died about 1936 but wasn't able to find the death on Free BMD as they don't have anything shown for that year. She was born Margaret THOMAS about 1859 in Llanelly, married a man named Shem DAVIES on the 19th of July 1879. He died in 1884 and she later married a man named Thomas LEWIS. I don't know the date of their marriage. I would also like to find Thomas Lewis's death. He died after 1929 and before 1936. Any help would be appreciated. Peggy Horn in Toronto

Lindsay I see from the Genuki page (Llanilar) that Coflein has an entry for this chapel and it refers to a couple of photographs/negatives of it which are held in the RCAHMW Chapels Photographic Collection. http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/7340/details/CILCWM+CALVINISTIC+METHODIST+SUNDAY+SCHOOL%2C+LLANILAR/ These don't appear to be available online, many are, but you can order copies from http://www.rcahmw.gov.uk/HI/ENG/Our+Services/Enquiry+Services/Order+Material+from+the+Archive/ Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <cilcwm@talktalk.net> To: <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Cilcwm sunday school and house, Llanilar > Dear List, > > I'm looking for any information or photographs anyone might have of > Cilcwm, a sunday school chapel and it's associated house (which I believe > to have been demolished in the 1960s). It is in Rhosygarth, Llanilar near > Aberystwyth. I have a few details of a family living there in the 1905 > census, but nothing more, and I'd love to know more about it. > > many thanks, > > Lindsay >

Many thanks to all those listers who were able to supply the answer to my query regarding the renaming of Narberth Workhouse and for lots of very helpful suggestions of websites where further information could be found. Thank you all for going to so much trouble Regards Joy

Photos of: Bethania Chapel, Myddfai, CMN; St John's Church, Clydach, GLA Dear Listers, The latest subjects to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection' are: 1. Bethania Methodist Chapel, at Myddfai, Carmarthenshire (photography by John Ball) 2. The Church of St John the Baptist, at Clydach in the Swansea Valley, Glamorgan (photography by Gwyn Rowlands) Go to www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/ and search the index for the relevant Myddfai and Clydach links. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Dear List, I'm looking for any information or photographs anyone might have of Cilcwm, a sunday school chapel and it's associated house (which I believe to have been demolished in the 1960s). It is in Rhosygarth, Llanilar near Aberystwyth. I have a few details of a family living there in the 1905 census, but nothing more, and I'd love to know more about it. many thanks, Lindsay

Hi Joy, I think you would receive assistance from Narberth Bookshop/Museum. They are very knowledgeable re Narberth Including Narberth South and hold some censuses there. They are also very helpful., and receive many callers regarding Narberth history. I cannot find a web site and e-mail address for them, but their tel no is 01834 861719 Regards Yvonne

Hi Joy, If you don't get any answers from the list, you could try contacting someone via the following link.  http://www.templetonheritagegroup.org.uk/  .  The homepage lists The Union Workhouse as somthing that is to be added to the website. Regards Sandra --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Joy <joy.cozens@btinternet.com> wrote: From: Joy <joy.cozens@btinternet.com> Subject: [Dyfed] (Dyfed) (PEM) Narberth South, Narberth Lodge To: DYFED@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 12:18 PM Hi Listers In January 1942 a great aunt died at Narberth Lodge, Narberth South.  I am wondering if someone with local knowledge can tell me if this was the place originally known as Narberth Union Workhouse.  On the www.workhouses.org.uk it states that it was built at Narberth Mountain.  Between 1930 and 1948 the workhouse became a Public Assistance Institution and it was during this period that my aunt died. After 1948, it continued to provide care for the elderly under the name of Lodge Hospital.  I therefore wonder if it also bore this name during the earlier period. As my aunt previously lived in Church Street, Pembroke Dock I wonder why she was treated in Narberth.  Any feedback would be appreciated Bye for now Joy

Hi Listers In January 1942 a great aunt died at Narberth Lodge, Narberth South. I am wondering if someone with local knowledge can tell me if this was the place originally known as Narberth Union Workhouse. On the www.workhouses.org.uk it states that it was built at Narberth Mountain. Between 1930 and 1948 the workhouse became a Public Assistance Institution and it was during this period that my aunt died. After 1948, it continued to provide care for the elderly under the name of Lodge Hospital. I therefore wonder if it also bore this name during the earlier period. As my aunt previously lived in Church Street, Pembroke Dock I wonder why she was treated in Narberth. Any feedback would be appreciated Bye for now Joy

An ancestor of mine, Harriett Dobbin, married William Prole, Esq, captain in the 37th regiment of the HEIC Service. Can anyone tell me what this regiment was? Thanks Philippa

Hi List, Can anyone help with the following, I'm looking for Elizabeth Griffiths and son Albert Griffiths, born 1855 and registered in Carmarthen - can anyone help with any possible 1861 or 1871 census details for the area Regards Kevin