Roy, Select 'other' under the Events, instead of Baptism, marriage etc. Dai Roy Davies wrote: This may seem like a daft question to some of you but exactly how do you use the IGI to search for wills? It has christening, marriage and death/burial records, and certain censuses but I cannot find anything at the familysearch.org site for searching wills! Roy On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM, yvonne evans [1]<a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> wro te: Hello Listers. I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in March 1 698. I took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the Will was not there. Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William James Castlebythe P embs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Best wishes Yvonne Evans ================================ Dyfed list [2]http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3]DYFED-request@rootsweb .com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk 2. http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html 3. mailto:DYFED-request@rootsweb.com

Hello Roy, When you enter the searches for IGI there is a question for any information on the person you are looking for. If you tap into "Any" you will find wills listed. However through the help of dyfed roots i have now realised that the names of will makers are not always correct as they can be will beneficiaries or debtors or creditors to the estate of the deceased. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Davies" <roydavies@gmail.com> To: <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Wills not in NLW This may seem like a daft question to some of you but exactly how do you use the IGI to search for wills? It has christening, marriage and death/burial records, and certain censuses but I cannot find anything at the familysearch.org site for searching wills! Roy On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM, yvonne evans <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Listers. > I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in > March 1698. I took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the > Will was not there. Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William > James Castlebythe Pembs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On > NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Best wishes > Yvonne Evans ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This may seem like a daft question to some of you but exactly how do you use the IGI to search for wills? It has christening, marriage and death/burial records, and certain censuses but I cannot find anything at the familysearch.org site for searching wills! Roy On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:08 AM, yvonne evans <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Listers. > I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in March 1698. I  took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the Will was not  there.  Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William James Castlebythe Pembs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Best wishes > Yvonne Evans

David, I couldn't see anything obvious on the Cambrian on line index or The Times on line archive. Dai David Rowlands wrote: > Does anyone know what was happening at Gogerddan or to the PRYSE > family in about April 1884? > > This somewhat mysterious message appeared in the Melbourne Argus > 'Missing Friends, etc' column on Thursday 24 April 1884: > > 'Any person related to PRYSE, Gogerddan, Cardiganshire, South Wales, > please wrlte to R.P., Argus office.' > > David > Canberra > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Yvonne, This may explain your predicament. When one looks at the IGI often a Will reference and a date are shown.....this does not mean that the person against whom these details are shown was the person who made the Will. I fell into that trap myself a few times when I first started researching. In the old Welsh Wills the Will maker often listed his debtors and/or creditors ...every name which appeared in that list was shown with the same Will reference in the IGI......the name of the person who wrote the actual Will might therefore be only one of many people shown against the same date. If you manage to track down the original Will writer and his Will, you at least know that a person of the name you seek lived at that time. Sometimes the Will writer gives the parish where the debtor/creditor actually lived. In the St. David's Probate Index there are no Wills for Henry Oliver of St. Dogmaels 1698 or William James of Castlebythe proved 1720, so it would seem no actual Wills existed and I'm not surprised they are not at NLW. If they were folks of importance, they may have had Wills proved at Canterbury. My list does not show administrations, but I actually have a printout of the James names in the St. David's Probate Will index 1700-1749 and there are no James of Castlebythe listed. Somewhere in the back of my head is a nagging thought that one of the James family was working at Longhook, Castlebythe...but I can't remember whose Will abstract that fact appears on, or the timeframe .....if it is indeed fact and not my imagination at work. If you can give me some idea of where William James fits and what you already have, it might refresh my memory. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "yvonne evans" <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> To: <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:08 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Wills not in NLW > Hello Listers. > I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in > March 1698. I took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the > Will was not there. Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William > James Castlebythe Pembs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On > NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Best wishes > Yvonne Evans > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bettye and Listers, <Many thanks for your reply. I have had previously people who were beneficiaries in Wills listed as the people who made the Will. This was in an I G I record.> Therefore your reply today clarifies this.. Regarding James Longhook Castlebythe. The person you have noticed was probably Rebecca James a farm servant at Longhook approx mid 1830's onwards. She was my g.g. grandfather's sister whose parents were James and Jane James Park Hwlwm Castlebythe. Many thanks Yvonne

Hello list, Who can help me with my search re to the deathrecord of Evan Davies, son of Howell and Sarah Davies. I have his birthrecord which tells me that he was born 21-9-1850 at Rhyddgoed fawr, Penboyr. Evan must have died soon after birth. He is not in 1861 census with parents. His father had died in 1856, but he is not buried in his fathers grave. Grave at Kenarth. The headstone only mentions another son Howell, who had died in the same year as his father. Which registrar would I need to ask? Elwyn - netherlands ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.423 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.39/2468 - datum van uitgifte: 10/31/09 07:53:00

Hi List, >From the 1841 census right up to 1911 census part of my family were at, Bank y Ffynnon, Penygroes, Llandybie. In 1841 my 4 x Great grandparents Benjamin & Mary Evans were there. Mary died 1860 and Benjamin in 1870, their married Daughter Margaret Williams was still there in 1911 aged 82. Is Bank y Ffynnon still standing ? Benjamin & his son-in-law Josiah Williams were farmers & butchers. Regards David

My Thanks for the many Comments on the above subject. The Correct Title of the Letters "U.K;"is The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland". Such a Mouthful I agree! So Its Either "G.B;or U.K;" It wasn't so long ago either that Monmouthshire was regarded as being in England Proper! There are many Tales of young Gents taking Cycle Rides from Cardiff to St;Mellons on a Sunday. As in those Days,Wales was "Dry"on a sunday! Which Meant that you Couldn't get an Alcholic Drink from a public House on a sunday as they didn't open Period. But Over the Border in Monmouthshire they WERE Open on Sundays. I think it was either 1972 or 1974 that Monmouthshire Came into Wales all Proper like Offically? My Late Grandmother Liking a tipple herself,Used to take me over to Yeovil in Somerset on a Sunday Excursion Train when I was a Kid,to visit her two sons who lived there. The Advantage being,they lived right next door to a pub! The Original Swan Hotel in Fact,In Yeovil. Cheers,Graham. -- Graham Williams.of Canton,Cardiff. Chairman,"Canton Historical Society". Glam;FHS;#551.

Try: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/familyhistory/wills/step1.htm 2009/11/2 yvonne evans <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk>: > Hello Listers. > I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in March 1698. I  took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the Will was not  there.  Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William James Castlebythe Pembs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Best wishes > Yvonne Evans > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Robert, In the 1813-37 Pemb. marriages a possible is William Richards of Carew married Elizabeth Jones at St. Florence 29/10/1814. He may have moved to Pembroke St. Mary later. In the Castlemartin Hundred records a William Richard married 1786 at Pembroke St. Michael; and William Richards married 1781 St. Florence; 1781 Pembroke St. Mary; 1807 Rhoscrowther, and 1809 Pembroke St. Michael........(this Hundred includes Pembroke St. Mary). Unfortunately the records I have do not include the names of their brides, but someone else may be able to tell you if there are Elizabeths shown. Richard Rose's Pemb. People book indicates that, coincidentally, a William Richard X St. Mary's married Elizabeth Jones at St. Michaels 7/1/1786 which no doubt refers to the first Castlemartin record. They had a son William baptised at St. Michaels 8/10/1786. There is also a reference to a William Richards being Constable of St. Mary's 1795-1800 and males of that name witnessing several weddings. In Castlemartin Hundred David Shears married 1713 at Pembroke St. Mary; George Shears married 1804 at St. Florence; and William Shears married 1800 at Pembroke St. Mary and 1811 at St. Florence. I think you were looking for Rebecca Shears at Steynton........A Timothy SHEA married Mary Hoar at Steynton in 1766...one has to look at all possibilities and if you pronounce the name She/a it could be mistaken for Shear. In other Rhos Hundred records Benjamin Shears in 1716 at Haverfordwest St. Mary married Ann Hopkens and in 1751 Joseph Shears of Haverfordwest St. Mary married Esther Sayce. A John SHEER(?) in 1721 at Haverfordwest St. Thomas married Letice DAVIES(?)...with all the question marks, this must be a difficult entry to read. In the female records, in 1753 at Haverfordwest St. Thomas Martha SHEARES married Andrew Mackdonnald; in 1721 at Haverfordwest St. Thomas Mary Shears married William Fortune ....(the Fortune name is often associated with the Quakers, so that avenue might be worth investigating) and Mary Shears in 1734 at Haverfordwest St. Mary married Thomas Swynny. There are also a couple of records for females with the surname Sears and Seers in the early 1700's. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> To: "Dyfed Family History" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:41 AM Subject: [Dyfed] William Richard of Pembroke St Mary > Hello List > > I am seeking clarification on Who William Richards married beside's > Rebecca Shears . The IGI gives Elizabeth as the mother of Ann 1824, Eliza > 1815, John 1818 Martha 1821, and Sarah 1830. I would like to find the > mother of these children > > Bob > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Yvonne - I, too, have found some documents missing that the Family History Library (FHL) in Salt Lake City had previously filmed. I spoke to one of the workers at the FHL about this, and he said that many documents were filmed years ago. In the meantime, people have gone to the various archives and taken the original documents home with them. Nowadays, there is security, but it didn't used to be this way. So, I'm not surprised you couldn't find the original. I believe the Mormon church began microfilming in England and Wales in the mid 1940's. I was so disappointed that the originals were gone from the various archives. Lynne in Tucson ----- Original Message ----- From: "yvonne evans" <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> To: <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: [Dyfed] Wills not in NLW > Hello Listers. > I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in > March 1698. I took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the > Will was not there. Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William > James Castlebythe Pembs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On > NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Best wishes > Yvonne Evans > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00

Bob I am totally confused by which media (Forum/Digest or email) you prefer your requirements and queries to be answered on, so in this case have plumped for the Digest. I trust the following is new, from my index of Pembroke St Michael Mrge register 1837 to 1908 13 Dec 1851 Charles Shears of full age a bach and baker of the Eastend the son of James Evans a Seaman mrd Jane Williams of full age a spinster and servant of the Eastend the daughter of Arnold Williams a ploughman by banns in front of W. M.D. Berrington Charles signed his name and Jane Made her mark in front of John Barrett and George Froyne. (Please note George was Parish Clerk at this time) 08 Apr 1899 Charles Shears aged 23 a bach and labourer of the Eastend the son of George Shears a labourer mrd Martha Ellen John aged 22 a spinster of the Eastend the daughter of George John a labourer by banns in front of T.J.L. Davies. Both made their mark in front of Richard Francis John, Rosinia Ann John and William George James. 30 June 1904 William Shears aged 20 a bach and labourer of the Eastend the son of George Shears a labourer mrd Margaret Shanklin aged 20 a spinster of the East end the dau of William Shanklin a labourer in front of J.Davis. Both signed their names in the presence of William (X) Shanklin and Jane Shanklin. >From my index of Pembroke St Michael Bapt Reg 1839 to 1901 the following are to George & Catherine Johns (note the ‘s’) of the Eastend :~ 23 Mar 1884 James William, 15 Aug 1886 Ida Georgina, 02 Nov 1888 Catherine Lavinia, 18 Jan 1891 Lilian Alice, 30 Apr 1897 Violet Irene, 02 Dec 1876 Martha Ellen. The following are to George & Catherine John (note no ‘s’) :~ 06 July 1879 Rosinia Ann, 27 Nov 1881 Richard Francis, 11 Oct 1895 William George Henry, 31 Mar 1899 Victor Charles. As advised previous by other means, if your Shears relate to the St Flo, then you are related to the Oriel’s if somewhat tenuous. Please do not confuse this John family of George and Catherine, with the 18 children to George Henry & Margaret John of the Eastend who are my wife’s ancestoral relations by mrge. George Henry was the son of George & Louisa John of the East End, but is not the George Henry shown as baptised 1879 at St Michael. With relation to your request surrounding the parents of the children shown in the latest Digest I can offer nothing further A.T.T., than I have supplied you previous. I apologize for any wrong posting media, but trust error is offset by the above being of some assistance to your research. Rgds Owen Vaughan ORIEL a welsh window on a surname Recycle mobile phones and earn - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle

Hello Listers. I took details of the Will of Henry Oliver of St Dogmaels Pembs made in March 1698. I took the details from IGI. However I visited NLW and the Will was not there. Likewise I took details from IGI of Will of William James Castlebythe Pembs from IGI (made in 1720) and could not be found On NLW Wills on-line. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Best wishes Yvonne Evans

Good Morning List, Having many paternal ancestors from the Castlemartin and adjacent areas, I would like to clarify if we are talking about the surname RICHARD or RICHARDS. John Richards. Researching RICHARDS & DUGGAN S.W Pembs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LC & BJ Kirkwood" <lki59595@bigpond.net.au> To: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net>; "Dyfed Family History" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:06 AM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] William Richard of Pembroke St Mary > Dear Robert, > > In the 1813-37 Pemb. marriages a possible is William Richards of Carew > married Elizabeth Jones at St. Florence 29/10/1814. > He may have moved to Pembroke St. Mary later. > > In the Castlemartin Hundred records a William Richard married 1786 at > Pembroke St. Michael; and William Richards married 1781 St. Florence; > 1781 > Pembroke St. Mary; 1807 Rhoscrowther, and 1809 Pembroke St. > Michael........(this Hundred includes Pembroke St. Mary). Unfortunately > the > records I have do not include the names of their brides, but someone else > may be able to tell you if there are Elizabeths shown. > > Richard Rose's Pemb. People book indicates that, coincidentally, a William > Richard X St. Mary's married Elizabeth Jones at St. Michaels 7/1/1786 > which > no doubt refers to the first Castlemartin record. They had a son William > baptised at St. Michaels 8/10/1786. > > There is also a reference to a William Richards being Constable of St. > Mary's 1795-1800 and males of that name witnessing several weddings. > > In Castlemartin Hundred David Shears married 1713 at Pembroke St. Mary; > George Shears married 1804 at St. Florence; and William Shears married > 1800 > at Pembroke St. Mary and 1811 at St. Florence. > > I think you were looking for Rebecca Shears at Steynton........A Timothy > SHEA married Mary Hoar at Steynton in 1766...one has to look at all > possibilities and if you pronounce the name She/a it could be mistaken for > Shear. > > In other Rhos Hundred records Benjamin Shears in 1716 at Haverfordwest St. > Mary married Ann Hopkens and in 1751 Joseph Shears of Haverfordwest St. > Mary > married Esther Sayce. A John SHEER(?) in 1721 at Haverfordwest St. Thomas > married Letice DAVIES(?)...with all the question marks, this must be a > difficult entry to read. > > In the female records, in 1753 at Haverfordwest St. Thomas Martha SHEARES > married Andrew Mackdonnald; in 1721 at Haverfordwest St. Thomas > Mary Shears married William Fortune ....(the Fortune name is often > associated with the Quakers, so that avenue might be worth investigating) > and Mary Shears in 1734 at Haverfordwest St. Mary married Thomas Swynny. > There are also a couple of records for females with the surname Sears and > Seers in the early 1700's. > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> > To: "Dyfed Family History" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:41 AM > Subject: [Dyfed] William Richard of Pembroke St Mary > > >> Hello List >> >> I am seeking clarification on Who William Richards married beside's >> Rebecca Shears . The IGI gives Elizabeth as the mother of Ann 1824, Eliza >> 1815, John 1818 Martha 1821, and Sarah 1830. I would like to find the >> mother of these children >> >> Bob >> >> ================================ >> Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00

Annie's comments are very pertinent. She might have added that the same stamp will also get a letter from here in South Carolina to far off Alaska or the Hawaiian islands and the mail carrier will have collected it from one's home letter box! (Give her a cheque she will also deliver the stamps). But, more to the point. I always address my letter home (London, Leics and Cards) to 'Great Britain' and I find my family and friends back home rarely understand what UK really means. In Foyle's bookshop (London) the week before last I say travel books on the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands grouped under UK. No they are not! they are not part of the UK and when 20 years ago I was in Bradford University we were in danger of having to charge their students the higher 'foreign' fees. Northern Ireland is in the UK but comprises only six counties of historic Ulster, the other two being in the Irish Republic. Monmouthshire is part of Wales but the LDS website regards it as in England. And recently, the little bit of Pembrokeshire across the bridge from Cardigan town has ceased to be 'Ceridigion' and is once again 'Sir Benfro'. I sometimes feel sorrow for overseas 'listers' trying to make sense of the historic geographical hangovers of Prydein. Courage mes enfants! To quote the Welsh Triads "The three privileged ports of the Isle of Britain: Newport in Monmouthshire, Beaumaris in Anglesea and Gwyddnaw in Cardiganshire" Now you know where my loyalties lie! Brian cardi2@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > I send out a lot of mail to the United Kingdom. I always say, Swansea, Wales, UK or Essex, England, UK. I have to admit that we have > people here in the USA who don't know where Wales or England is located but you've got people there in the UK, who have > no idea that New Orleans, LA and Los Angeles, CA are almost 2,000 miles from each other. I know someone who thinks that > I live 10 miles from San Francisco rather than 393 miles. > > The one thing that really gets our postal service is the British lack of putting return addresses on their mail. Here, int he USA, if you do > that, you have to stand in front of the window and write in your name and address in the return section. They won't accept > any letters any other way. > > I have to commend the US Postal Service. For a 44 cent stamp, I can mail a letter to a friend 40+ miles away in another county > (after the Post Office is closed) and she will receive the letter the next morning. > > Annie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Attached Message > > > > > > > > From: > > > robert williams <robert.williams94@googlemail.com> > > > > > > > To: > > > DYFED@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > Subject: > > > [Dyfed] For Wales,See England. > > > > > > > Date: > > > Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:39:29 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings.It has been know for many years now,that amongst our American > Friends,The United Kingdom doesn't exist.As they call it "England". > Or to put it another way,The United Kingdom is in England. > A funny thing happened when, Many Years ago, I was the > Assistant Secretary of the "Glamorgan F,H.S;" > My Job was to handle all of the "Overseas Mail". > We had a letter one day that was posted in Texas U.S.A;that was addressed to > us in Cardiff.And the only addition to that address was "South Wales". And > Nothing else! > We wondered WHY this letter had Taken over 4 weeks to arrive to us? > I could then see why? > For on the Front of the Envelope,somebody had added.... > "Try ENGLAND!" > I could then see WHERE else this Letter had travelled to,Before it arrived > on Our Doorstep?. > As on the Reverse side of the Envelope was "Stamped" > "NEW SOUTH WALES!" > So then,Our Letter had gone from Texas to New South Wales in Australia. > As obviously Nobody in the U.S;Postal Service had Heard Of ....... > "South Wales". > So on Arrival in New South Wales,The Postal Staff put > "Try England". > Needless to say,It arrived! > > -- Professor Emeritus B E Davies PhD, C. Chem, FRSC 107 Teeside Drive Anderson SC 29625-6937 USA tel: (864) 646-7876 alt. email: bdavies@clemson.edu

I send out a lot of mail to the United Kingdom. I always say, Swansea, Wales, UK or Essex, England, UK. I have to admit that we have people here in the USA who don't know where Wales or England is located but you've got people there in the UK, who have no idea that New Orleans, LA and Los Angeles, CA are almost 2,000 miles from each other. I know someone who thinks that I live 10 miles from San Francisco rather than 393 miles. The one thing that really gets our postal service is the British lack of putting return addresses on their mail. Here, int he USA, if you do that, you have to stand in front of the window and write in your name and address in the return section. They won't accept any letters any other way. I have to commend the US Postal Service. For a 44 cent stamp, I can mail a letter to a friend 40+ miles away in another county (after the Post Office is closed) and she will receive the letter the next morning. Annie Attached Message From: robert williams <robert.williams94@googlemail.com> To: DYFED@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] For Wales,See England. Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:39:29 +0000 Greetings.It has been know for many years now,that amongst our American Friends,The United Kingdom doesn't exist.As they call it "England". Or to put it another way,The United Kingdom is in England. A funny thing happened when, Many Years ago, I was the Assistant Secretary of the "Glamorgan F,H.S;" My Job was to handle all of the "Overseas Mail". We had a letter one day that was posted in Texas U.S.A;that was addressed to us in Cardiff.And the only addition to that address was "South Wales". And Nothing else! We wondered WHY this letter had Taken over 4 weeks to arrive to us? I could then see why? For on the Front of the Envelope,somebody had added.... "Try ENGLAND!" I could then see WHERE else this Letter had travelled to,Before it arrived on Our Doorstep?. As on the Reverse side of the Envelope was "Stamped" "NEW SOUTH WALES!" So then,Our Letter had gone from Texas to New South Wales in Australia. As obviously Nobody in the U.S;Postal Service had Heard Of ....... "South Wales". So on Arrival in New South Wales,The Postal Staff put "Try England". Needless to say,It arrived! -- Graham Williams.of Canton,Cardiff. Chairman,"Canton Historical Society". Glam;FHS;#551.

Hello List I am seeking clarification on Who William Richards married beside's Rebecca Shears . The IGI gives Elizabeth as the mother of Ann 1824, Eliza 1815, John 1818 Martha 1821, and Sarah 1830. I would like to find the mother of these children Bob

Hi I wonder if there's a kind person who might have access to the parish records (baptisms) for Ysbytty Ystwyth who might be willing to do a 'look up' to see if they could find a baptism record for Edward Jones, Hafodgau isaf ,born c 1790.? I know that his mother was a Mary, as a will was found for her in the NLW. It appears that Edward had 3 brothers ,William,Thomas and John .A baptism record for any of the three brothers will be fine if Edward's can't be found . Mary was a widow so the father's name is unknown . Without sounding greedy ,I also have a William Davies born c 1800 in Llanilar . Any chance of a 'look up' if anyone has access to the records for Llanilar . I have 7 names (baptisms )for January into March for the year 1824 ,Llanilar, if anyone is interested ,also burials for the year 1878 in Ysbytty Ystwyth (8 names) and a copy of the marriage ,taken from the parish records Ysbytty Ystwyh church, of Richard Oliver ,Blaenpentre and Elizabeth Jones ,Penyglog April 7th 1848 . Elizabeth's father named as Thomas . Thanks , Buddug Hollett

Bob See my posting on Jane Lewis and Jane Walters with children to James & Jane Griffiths on B&G. Rgds Owen V. Recycle mobile phones and earn - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle