Hello list, Can somebody find Thomas S Davies in 1911 census at Pencraig, Llangoedmore? Do not know any info on his wife. Believe he had two sons. Elwyn - Netherlands.

Dear Lynne   Have you tried the excellent   http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/search.php   Regards   Jen --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Lynne Charles <lynnecharles7@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Lynne Charles <lynnecharles7@hotmail.com> Subject: [Dyfed] Capt William Charles. b.c. 1710 To: "Dyfed Rootsweb" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 16:02 Good afternoon, This is a long shot, but is there anyone on this list who has any knowledge of Welsh Mariners, around the date of 1733 who may have been sailing between Welsh ports to Bristol. Regards Lynne County Somerset Place Easton in Gordano Church St George RegisterNumber MarriageDate 09 Aug 1733 GroomForename Capt William GroomSurname CHARLES GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Mary BrideSurname HORWOOD BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename WitnessOneSurname WitnessTwoForename WitnessTwoSurname Notes lic. FileNumber 5776                           _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mail List - Is there a list of names of the French prisoners of war that were held in Pembrokeshire in the 1760-1780's? In 1760, there were 18 French prisoners, and by 1779 there were 56 French and 37 Americans. Lynne in Tucson

Good afternoon, This is a long shot, but is there anyone on this list who has any knowledge of Welsh Mariners, around the date of 1733 who may have been sailing between Welsh ports to Bristol. Regards Lynne County Somerset Place Easton in Gordano Church St George RegisterNumber MarriageDate 09 Aug 1733 GroomForename Capt William GroomSurname CHARLES GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Mary BrideSurname HORWOOD BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename WitnessOneSurname WitnessTwoForename WitnessTwoSurname Notes lic. FileNumber 5776 _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Hello Lynne, I too have an interest in 18th century trade to Bristol - my Morgan family was based at Abercastle and sold goods as far as Newport(PEM). There is a reference in West Wales Historical Records, the 14 books mainly by Francis Green - he wrote an article about a ship's captain who left some information on his errands to Bristol in 1765. I don't exactly remember the name but I think it might have been Abel Davies. Regards Bill G-J In a message dated 30/11/2009 16:03:27 GMT Standard Time, lynnecharles7@hotmail.com writes: Good afternoon, This is a long shot, but is there anyone on this list who has any knowledge of Welsh Mariners, around the date of 1733 who may have been sailing between Welsh ports to Bristol. Regards Lynne

Dear Pat It does sound like an error is the most likely explanation. If that's the case, the current confusion is a result of the fact that the registrar has not scored through the mistakes and underlined them in the way that he should have done. I think he must have been in a complete daydream to have made a mistake of this order! There's no need to send a scan of the article in the Family History mag - you've summarised it very well. Thank you very much for your detective work. Please let me know what the register office say. With thanks and best wishes Moni 2009/11/27 pat <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk>: > Hi Moni - and those following this problem > > Guess what!! I think I have just read the explanation in a letter in > this month's copy of Family Tree magazine which arrived this morning. > > It seems my theory re an error correction could be right and the reason > or the Seven is that according to the law under the registrations' Acts > if an error   was made before the entry had been completed by the > registrar's signature then the mistake was crossed through and the > correction numbered by the error  and written and initialled e.g. seven > ED in this case by the side. > The numbering started at one or each register - so in this case this > must have been the seventh error in this register. > > Looking again at the certificate I think it is possible that the "mark" > I mentioned next to the two lines in error could possibly be 7. > > The rules also say the error must be underlined but as the two names are > on the ruled lines on the certificate then that presumably suffices. > > My guess is the two wrong names were entered in the position o groom and > bride and then the correct groom and bride have been entered one of top > and the other below. > Then the correction marks added. > > I've passed this on to the register office and asked their opinion. > > Will let you know the result . > > > Would you like me to send you a scan of the letter in the Family History > Magazine? I can do that offlist. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > -- > pat >

having searched again, i seem to have sent the wrong images offlist, but have sent the correct 1901 census image offlist but cant find correct 1891 image! john ________________________________ From: john tyner <johntyner2001@yahoo.com> To: Dyfed@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 29 November, 2009 17:12:48 Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Pearce in 1891 & 1901 images sent off list john ________________________________ From: Dai Jones <david@daijones.com> To: Dyfed-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 28 November, 2009 8:43:43 Subject: [Dyfed] Pearce in 1891 & 1901 Hi List, Looking for this family in 1891 & 1901 >From 1881       Benjn. PEARCE  Head  M  Male  23  Pendine, Carmarthen, Wales  Agricultural Labourer          Elizabeth PEARCE  Wife  M  Female  26  Cwmcaddy, Carmarthen, Wales  Wife          Mary PEARCE  Daur  U  Female  3  Cwmcaddy, Carmarthen, Wales  Daur          Annie PEARCE  Daur  U  Female  1  Llandowror, Carmarthen, Wales  ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

images sent off list john ________________________________ From: Dai Jones <david@daijones.com> To: Dyfed-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 28 November, 2009 8:43:43 Subject: [Dyfed] Pearce in 1891 & 1901 Hi List, Looking for this family in 1891 & 1901 >From 1881       Benjn. PEARCE  Head  M  Male  23  Pendine, Carmarthen, Wales  Agricultural Labourer          Elizabeth PEARCE  Wife  M  Female  26  Cwmcaddy, Carmarthen, Wales  Wife          Mary PEARCE  Daur  U  Female  3  Cwmcaddy, Carmarthen, Wales  Daur          Annie PEARCE  Daur  U  Female  1  Llandowror, Carmarthen, Wales  ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, Am trying to tracé my Thomas Davies, born 1846 at Llangeler, Mountain Hall. Found him in 1871 census as a boarder at 55 Hirwaun Rd., Aberdare. Working as a collier. Do not know more about him. Think he left Cardiganshire to work in the mines at Aberdare. Elwyn – Netherlands. ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.425 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.79/2522 - datum van uitgifte: 11/23/09 19:45:00 ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.426 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.83/2526 - datum van uitgifte: 11/25/09 19:43:00

Sylvia, could you please check one for me as well? I've been stumped by the name of a house in Manordeifi mentioned in the 1724 will of John David Llewellyn. It appears to be spelled Kilhorkin. Bettye Kirkwood found a Clynhorgin in the 1786 tax records for Manordeifi. A valuation of the Clynfyw estate made in 1750 included a reference to "a piece in Gwestra Kilast at a place called Kilvalgen". So: Kilhorkin, Clynhorgin and Kilvalgen, all in Manordeifi, all perhaps referring to the same place. Could you see if anything in Place Names might be a match? Thank you. James Lloyd Message: 8 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:44:10 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: Sylvia Birch <cenquest@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Solian Helig Clydey To: <e.schreuder7@chello.nl>, <dyfed-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <26678477.1259005450299.JavaMail.root@ps35.mc.tiscali.sys> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Dear Elwyn B G Charles in the 'Place Names of Pembrokeshire' mentions a Ffynnon Helig in Clydey. This was spelt Ffynon Helig 1820 BT's. I hope this may be of some help. Best Wishes Sylvia >----Original Message---- >From: e.schreuder7@chello.nl >Date: 23/11/2009 19:26 >To: <dyfed-L@rootsweb.com> >Subj: [Dyfed] Solian Helig Clydey > >Hello list, > > > >Has anybody ever come across the abode Solion Helig, Clydey Pembrokeshire. >My Evans relatives lived there in 1838. > >Baby Rachel Evans born there in that year, daughter of Timothy Evans and >Elisabeth Harries. > > > >Elwyn - Netherlands. > > >================================ >Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk The latest news as it happens - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/news ------------------------------ To contact the DYFED list administrator, send an email to DYFED-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DYFED mailing list, send an email to DYFED@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DYFED Digest, Vol 4, Issue 377 *************************************

Retrospectives: Trees in the Welsh Landscape; Gates and Stiles (various locations) Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. Scenes featuring trees, shot in various parts of the south, west, and mid Welsh countryside (ten pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in September 1998. 2. A selection of field gates and stiles in the counties of Breconshire, Glamorgan, and Monmouthshire (five pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in April 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Hi List, Looking for this family in 1891 & 1901 >From 1881 Benjn. PEARCE Head M Male 23 Pendine, Carmarthen, Wales Agricultural Labourer Elizabeth PEARCE Wife M Female 26 Cwmcaddy, Carmarthen, Wales Wife Mary PEARCE Daur U Female 3 Cwmcaddy, Carmarthen, Wales Daur Annie PEARCE Daur U Female 1 Llandowror, Carmarthen, Wales

Hi I have just looked at the original 1871 and it is definitely St Dogmells. If you are unable to find someone on ancestry, have a look at the free index at www.cenquest.co.uk and that may help you locate people. If you choose to join us remember you can have unlimited look up on the Pembrokshire census for two months now for a small membership fee. The Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire borders are also included. I hope this may help. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk The latest news as it happens - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/news

Hi Moni - and those following this problem Guess what!! I think I have just read the explanation in a letter in this month's copy of Family Tree magazine which arrived this morning. It seems my theory re an error correction could be right and the reason or the Seven is that according to the law under the registrations' Acts if an error was made before the entry had been completed by the registrar's signature then the mistake was crossed through and the correction numbered by the error and written and initialled e.g. seven ED in this case by the side. The numbering started at one or each register - so in this case this must have been the seventh error in this register. Looking again at the certificate I think it is possible that the "mark" I mentioned next to the two lines in error could possibly be 7. The rules also say the error must be underlined but as the two names are on the ruled lines on the certificate then that presumably suffices. My guess is the two wrong names were entered in the position o groom and bride and then the correct groom and bride have been entered one of top and the other below. Then the correction marks added. I've passed this on to the register office and asked their opinion. Will let you know the result . Would you like me to send you a scan of the letter in the Family History Magazine? I can do that offlist. Cheers Pat -- pat

1891 Wales Census 1891 Wales Census Name: Thomas Davies Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Cathrine Gender: Male Where born: Llangunor, Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil parish: Cwmdu Ecclesiastical parish: Llangynwyd Town: Maes Teg (Maestag) County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street Address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Davies 45 Cathrine Davies 47 Isaac Davies 19 Hannah Davies 14 Lydia Davies 10 Bladwin Davies 8 Cathrine Davies 6 David J Davies 3 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4449; Folio 109; Page 53; GSU roll: 6099559. Could Llangunor be Llangeler ? Robert Alun Chick (Penarth) -----Original Message----- From: Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7@chello.nl> To: dyfed-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:14 Subject: [Dyfed] FW: 1881/1891 census Hello list, Am trying to tracé my Thomas Davies, born 1846 at Llangeler, Mountain Hall. Found him in 1871 census as a boarder at 55 Hirwaun Rd., Aberdare. Working as a collier. Do not know more about him. Think he left Cardiganshire to work in the mines at Aberdare. Elwyn – Netherlands. ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.425 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.79/2522 - datum van uitgifte: 11/23/09 19:45:00 ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi >From my experience with Ancestry they almost always mistranscribe St.Dogmells/Dogmaels as St. Dogwells. I have family from St.Dogmaels and I always have to check the original image. I've lost count of the number of times I've reported a transcription error. Regards Yvonne Watson On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:52 AM, allen williams < gerald.williams23@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi Yvonne > > The 1871 census is definitely a mis-transcribed "St Dogmells"; The > residential location is Bridgend (the bit of St Dogmaels nearest the > bridge to Cardigan) and there are large numbers of residents also > described as being born in St Dogmells. > > There is of course the possibility that these individuals really should > have been recorded as being native of St Dogwells, and in this instance > Ancestry have, by mistake, named the right place of birth in their > transcription, but I rather doubt it; it is rather a long shot. > > Best wishes > > Allen Williams > Sale Cheshire > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:05:16 -0000, yvonne evans > <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi John and Allen, > > Is there a possibility that this is the St Dogwells Pembrokeshire which > > I believe is near Sealeyham House(where the dogs of that name were bred) > > There is a small church there and I am unsure if it is still in use. > > Yvonne Evans > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "allen williams" > > <gerald.williams23@ntlworld.com> > > To: "john tyner" <johntyner2001@yahoo.com>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] register of Pembrokeshire Births > > > > > >> Hi John > >> > >> Is this her in the 1871 census? > >> > >> Name: Jane Jones > >> Age: 7 > >> Estimated birth year: abt 1864 > >> Relation: Daughter > >> Mother's Name: Elizabeth > >> Gender: Female > >> Where born: St Dogwells, Pembrokeshire, Wales > >> Civil parish: St Dogwells > >> Town: Bridgend > >> County/Island: Cardiganshire > >> > >> (St Dogwells ought of course to be St Dogmells - good old Ancestry) > >> > >> If so, the birth should indeed be registered in Cardigan, and there is > >> no > >> such birth on freeBMD. Given the proximity to Cardigan, I can't see the > >> birth being registered anywhere else if the birthplace is correct. You > >> may > >> need to seek the help of the Registrar where the registers are kept now. > >> From the GENUKI information, this could be Cardigan or Haverfordwest, > >> depending on whether the place of birth was in St Dogmaels Municipal, or > >> Rural division. > >> > >> Before jumping to the conclusion that the birth was unregistered, to > >> verify the place of birth I would try to find her after the 1871 census, > >> which is the problem you first mentioned - having had a quick look on > >> Ancestry, this is not an easy one to crack. She could even, as you > >> suggest, have died before April 1881. > >> > >> I can't find mam Elizabeth in 1881 either, suggesting she may have died. > >> If you get any candidates for her in 1881, she should be easy to > >> identify > >> because she is deaf. > >> > >> Did Elizabeth have a sister Jane? If so, there is a Jane Jones of the > >> right age in Swansea in 1881, born in Pembrokeshire (correct) but it > >> does > >> not say where in the county, unfortunately. She is a servant in her > >> uncle-by-marriage's house (he's the Parish Clerk of Swansea, no less). > >> His > >> wife is Jane Jones and it is she I believe who is the blood auntie, > >> because she is born Pembrokeshire too (the husband is born Glamorgan). > >> > >> This is a tough one. Good luck. > >> > >> Allen Williams > >> Sale Cheshire > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:54:18 -0000, john tyner <johntyner2001@yahoo.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> hi list, > >>> i have been trying to findout what happened to my jane Jones(b abt 1864 > >>> pembrokeshire) after 1881. also i am trying to find out what district i > >>> should be looking under for her birth. her mother is Elizabeth/Eliza > >>> Jones formerly lewis and i have been looking under cardigan but no > >>> luxck > >>> and all i can find is a possible marriage to a Thomas Davies in the > >>> 1880's but when i cross reference it seems the jane i am looking in the > >>> 1891 and 1901 censuses is jane Thomas who married Thomas Davies in 1886 > >>> in Cardigan District. > >>> i have checked for her death and all i can find is a 21 and 19 yr old > >>> jane Jones dying in 1889 but the ages dont fit with her birth yr. > >>> any help appreciated. > >>> john > >>> > >>> > >>> ================================ > >>> Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: > http://www.opera.com/mail/ > >> > >> ================================ > >> Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Yvonne The 1871 census is definitely a mis-transcribed "St Dogmells"; The residential location is Bridgend (the bit of St Dogmaels nearest the bridge to Cardigan) and there are large numbers of residents also described as being born in St Dogmells. There is of course the possibility that these individuals really should have been recorded as being native of St Dogwells, and in this instance Ancestry have, by mistake, named the right place of birth in their transcription, but I rather doubt it; it is rather a long shot. Best wishes Allen Williams Sale Cheshire On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:05:16 -0000, yvonne evans <a.y.evans@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > Hi John and Allen, > Is there a possibility that this is the St Dogwells Pembrokeshire which > I believe is near Sealeyham House(where the dogs of that name were bred) > There is a small church there and I am unsure if it is still in use. > Yvonne Evans > ----- Original Message ----- From: "allen williams" > <gerald.williams23@ntlworld.com> > To: "john tyner" <johntyner2001@yahoo.com>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] register of Pembrokeshire Births > > >> Hi John >> >> Is this her in the 1871 census? >> >> Name: Jane Jones >> Age: 7 >> Estimated birth year: abt 1864 >> Relation: Daughter >> Mother's Name: Elizabeth >> Gender: Female >> Where born: St Dogwells, Pembrokeshire, Wales >> Civil parish: St Dogwells >> Town: Bridgend >> County/Island: Cardiganshire >> >> (St Dogwells ought of course to be St Dogmells - good old Ancestry) >> >> If so, the birth should indeed be registered in Cardigan, and there is >> no >> such birth on freeBMD. Given the proximity to Cardigan, I can't see the >> birth being registered anywhere else if the birthplace is correct. You >> may >> need to seek the help of the Registrar where the registers are kept now. >> From the GENUKI information, this could be Cardigan or Haverfordwest, >> depending on whether the place of birth was in St Dogmaels Municipal, or >> Rural division. >> >> Before jumping to the conclusion that the birth was unregistered, to >> verify the place of birth I would try to find her after the 1871 census, >> which is the problem you first mentioned - having had a quick look on >> Ancestry, this is not an easy one to crack. She could even, as you >> suggest, have died before April 1881. >> >> I can't find mam Elizabeth in 1881 either, suggesting she may have died. >> If you get any candidates for her in 1881, she should be easy to >> identify >> because she is deaf. >> >> Did Elizabeth have a sister Jane? If so, there is a Jane Jones of the >> right age in Swansea in 1881, born in Pembrokeshire (correct) but it >> does >> not say where in the county, unfortunately. She is a servant in her >> uncle-by-marriage's house (he's the Parish Clerk of Swansea, no less). >> His >> wife is Jane Jones and it is she I believe who is the blood auntie, >> because she is born Pembrokeshire too (the husband is born Glamorgan). >> >> This is a tough one. Good luck. >> >> Allen Williams >> Sale Cheshire >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:54:18 -0000, john tyner <johntyner2001@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> hi list, >>> i have been trying to findout what happened to my jane Jones(b abt 1864 >>> pembrokeshire) after 1881. also i am trying to find out what district i >>> should be looking under for her birth. her mother is Elizabeth/Eliza >>> Jones formerly lewis and i have been looking under cardigan but no >>> luxck >>> and all i can find is a possible marriage to a Thomas Davies in the >>> 1880's but when i cross reference it seems the jane i am looking in the >>> 1891 and 1901 censuses is jane Thomas who married Thomas Davies in 1886 >>> in Cardigan District. >>> i have checked for her death and all i can find is a 21 and 19 yr old >>> jane Jones dying in 1889 but the ages dont fit with her birth yr. >>> any help appreciated. >>> john >>> >>> >>> ================================ >>> Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ >> >> ================================ >> Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Hi John and Allen, Is there a possibility that this is the St Dogwells Pembrokeshire which I believe is near Sealeyham House(where the dogs of that name were bred) There is a small church there and I am unsure if it is still in use. Yvonne Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: "allen williams" <gerald.williams23@ntlworld.com> To: "john tyner" <johntyner2001@yahoo.com>; <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] register of Pembrokeshire Births > Hi John > > Is this her in the 1871 census? > > Name: Jane Jones > Age: 7 > Estimated birth year: abt 1864 > Relation: Daughter > Mother's Name: Elizabeth > Gender: Female > Where born: St Dogwells, Pembrokeshire, Wales > Civil parish: St Dogwells > Town: Bridgend > County/Island: Cardiganshire > > (St Dogwells ought of course to be St Dogmells - good old Ancestry) > > If so, the birth should indeed be registered in Cardigan, and there is no > such birth on freeBMD. Given the proximity to Cardigan, I can't see the > birth being registered anywhere else if the birthplace is correct. You may > need to seek the help of the Registrar where the registers are kept now. > From the GENUKI information, this could be Cardigan or Haverfordwest, > depending on whether the place of birth was in St Dogmaels Municipal, or > Rural division. > > Before jumping to the conclusion that the birth was unregistered, to > verify the place of birth I would try to find her after the 1871 census, > which is the problem you first mentioned - having had a quick look on > Ancestry, this is not an easy one to crack. She could even, as you > suggest, have died before April 1881. > > I can't find mam Elizabeth in 1881 either, suggesting she may have died. > If you get any candidates for her in 1881, she should be easy to identify > because she is deaf. > > Did Elizabeth have a sister Jane? If so, there is a Jane Jones of the > right age in Swansea in 1881, born in Pembrokeshire (correct) but it does > not say where in the county, unfortunately. She is a servant in her > uncle-by-marriage's house (he's the Parish Clerk of Swansea, no less). His > wife is Jane Jones and it is she I believe who is the blood auntie, > because she is born Pembrokeshire too (the husband is born Glamorgan). > > This is a tough one. Good luck. > > Allen Williams > Sale Cheshire > > > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:54:18 -0000, john tyner <johntyner2001@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> hi list, >> i have been trying to findout what happened to my jane Jones(b abt 1864 >> pembrokeshire) after 1881. also i am trying to find out what district i >> should be looking under for her birth. her mother is Elizabeth/Eliza >> Jones formerly lewis and i have been looking under cardigan but no luxck >> and all i can find is a possible marriage to a Thomas Davies in the >> 1880's but when i cross reference it seems the jane i am looking in the >> 1891 and 1901 censuses is jane Thomas who married Thomas Davies in 1886 >> in Cardigan District. >> i have checked for her death and all i can find is a 21 and 19 yr old >> jane Jones dying in 1889 but the ages dont fit with her birth yr. >> any help appreciated. >> john >> >> >> ================================ >> Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, Am trying to tracé my Thomas Davies, born 1846 at Llangeler, Mountain Hall. Found him in 1871 census as a boarder at 55 Hirwaun Rd., Aberdare. Working as a collier. Do not know more about him. Think he left Cardiganshire to work in the mines at Aberdare. Elwyn – Netherlands. ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 8.5.425 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.79/2522 - datum van uitgifte: 11/23/09 19:45:00

Hi John Is this her in the 1871 census? Name: Jane Jones Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: St Dogwells, Pembrokeshire, Wales Civil parish: St Dogwells Town: Bridgend County/Island: Cardiganshire (St Dogwells ought of course to be St Dogmells - good old Ancestry) If so, the birth should indeed be registered in Cardigan, and there is no such birth on freeBMD. Given the proximity to Cardigan, I can't see the birth being registered anywhere else if the birthplace is correct. You may need to seek the help of the Registrar where the registers are kept now. From the GENUKI information, this could be Cardigan or Haverfordwest, depending on whether the place of birth was in St Dogmaels Municipal, or Rural division. Before jumping to the conclusion that the birth was unregistered, to verify the place of birth I would try to find her after the 1871 census, which is the problem you first mentioned - having had a quick look on Ancestry, this is not an easy one to crack. She could even, as you suggest, have died before April 1881. I can't find mam Elizabeth in 1881 either, suggesting she may have died. If you get any candidates for her in 1881, she should be easy to identify because she is deaf. Did Elizabeth have a sister Jane? If so, there is a Jane Jones of the right age in Swansea in 1881, born in Pembrokeshire (correct) but it does not say where in the county, unfortunately. She is a servant in her uncle-by-marriage's house (he's the Parish Clerk of Swansea, no less). His wife is Jane Jones and it is she I believe who is the blood auntie, because she is born Pembrokeshire too (the husband is born Glamorgan). This is a tough one. Good luck. Allen Williams Sale Cheshire On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:54:18 -0000, john tyner <johntyner2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > hi list, > i have been trying to findout what happened to my jane Jones(b abt 1864 > pembrokeshire) after 1881. also i am trying to find out what district i > should be looking under for her birth. her mother is Elizabeth/Eliza > Jones formerly lewis and i have been looking under cardigan but no luxck > and all i can find is a possible marriage to a Thomas Davies in the > 1880's but when i cross reference it seems the jane i am looking in the > 1891 and 1901 censuses is jane Thomas who married Thomas Davies in 1886 > in Cardigan District. > i have checked for her death and all i can find is a 21 and 19 yr old > jane Jones dying in 1889 but the ages dont fit with her birth yr. > any help appreciated. > john > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/