Hello Denise The Inn was called the Ivorites Arms - it was named after a Friendly Society "Ivorities". Thomas Philips took it over in October 1856. It was located at the Old Bridge which is included in Prendergast district in the census even though it is down in Haverfordwest town. In 1868 the Inn closed and Tom Phillips moved to Cartlett and opened up another Inn called the Ivorites Arms. It overlooked the Kilns in Prospect Place. This area is also included in Prendergast district in the census. I got most of the details from " The Pubs of Haverfordwest Milford Haven and Mid-west Pembrokeshire" by Keith Johnson where it also states that Thomas Phillips was an uncle of the "wellknown" W.D Phillips (well-known is my comment!!!) Thomas Phillips was the son of James and Ann Phillips who ran the Bull Inn in Prendergast. This Inn is still there. I can send you more information off-list if you would like. I don't think they are linked to my Phillips family from PEM (there are so many Phillips in Pembrokeshire) but as Haverfordwest was my hometown I have collected lots of info about people and places. Cheers Pat In message <23A743C1AA8D3A49A71AD0DB5164CAD54560CD@VIME-VS2.rdg- home.ad.rdg.ac.uk>, Denise C. Lambkin <d.c.lambkin@reading.ac.uk> writes >Hello > >I'm new to this list. I've been working on my own tree for a few years, but >having hit the classic brick wall I've decided to research my husband's tree. We >thought all his ancestors came from Kent, but we've tracked down his g. >grandmother (Ellen Phillips, b. 1862) to Prendergast, Haverfordwest. > >Can anyone help with identifying an inn in Prendergast, Haverfordwest? > >I have Thomas Owen Phillips, b. Prendergast about 1825. In the 1861 and 1871 >censuses he gives is occupation as inkeeper, but I can't work out what the name >of the inn is. > >1861: Chelsea pensioner and innkeeper, Old Bridge, Joorite? Arms Public House, >Prendergast >1871: Innkeeper, Prospect Place, Joorite? Arms, Prendergast >1881: Cabinet maker, Prospect Place, Prendergast >1891: Carpenter, Prospect Place, Prendergast >1901: Army pensioner, Prospect Place > >I'm guessing that, since Thomas continues to live in Prospect Place, he didn't >actually move house, but just closed down the pub bit and took up carpentry. So >it is unlikely that the pub still exists, but I'd love for someone to prove me >wrong. > >Thanks > >Denise > >================================ >Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message -- pat

Have you chased his army career at the TNA? It may even give his DOB and place. You need his army discharge papers in Class WO 97 and there will be Chelsea Pensioner Out-patient payments. If in doubt - William Spencer at the TNA will sort it all for you - but I can do the above. Just checking first what you have done. Brian Brian Picton Swann ISOGG Regional Co-ordinator, England & Wales -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise C. Lambkin Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:20 AM To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] Pub in Prospect Place, Prendergast Hello I'm new to this list. I've been working on my own tree for a few years, but having hit the classic brick wall I've decided to research my husband's tree. We thought all his ancestors came from Kent, but we've tracked down his g. grandmother (Ellen Phillips, b. 1862) to Prendergast, Haverfordwest. Can anyone help with identifying an inn in Prendergast, Haverfordwest? I have Thomas Owen Phillips, b. Prendergast about 1825. In the 1861 and 1871 censuses he gives is occupation as inkeeper, but I can't work out what the name of the inn is. 1861: Chelsea pensioner and innkeeper, Old Bridge, Joorite? Arms Public House, Prendergast 1871: Innkeeper, Prospect Place, Joorite? Arms, Prendergast 1881: Cabinet maker, Prospect Place, Prendergast 1891: Carpenter, Prospect Place, Prendergast 1901: Army pensioner, Prospect Place I'm guessing that, since Thomas continues to live in Prospect Place, he didn't actually move house, but just closed down the pub bit and took up carpentry. So it is unlikely that the pub still exists, but I'd love for someone to prove me wrong. Thanks Denise ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone lost a ROBERTS from Bow Street? DEATHS ROBERTS.—February 1, of typhoid fever, at his sister's residence. Belgravia-terrace, Pyrmont, Sydney, Robert Lewis, son of David Roberts, Bow-street, Cardiganshire, Wales, England, aged 20 years. From the 'Sydney Morning Herald', Wednesday 18 February 1885. David Canberra

Hello I'm new to this list. I've been working on my own tree for a few years, but having hit the classic brick wall I've decided to research my husband's tree. We thought all his ancestors came from Kent, but we've tracked down his g. grandmother (Ellen Phillips, b. 1862) to Prendergast, Haverfordwest. Can anyone help with identifying an inn in Prendergast, Haverfordwest? I have Thomas Owen Phillips, b. Prendergast about 1825. In the 1861 and 1871 censuses he gives is occupation as inkeeper, but I can't work out what the name of the inn is. 1861: Chelsea pensioner and innkeeper, Old Bridge, Joorite? Arms Public House, Prendergast 1871: Innkeeper, Prospect Place, Joorite? Arms, Prendergast 1881: Cabinet maker, Prospect Place, Prendergast 1891: Carpenter, Prospect Place, Prendergast 1901: Army pensioner, Prospect Place I'm guessing that, since Thomas continues to live in Prospect Place, he didn't actually move house, but just closed down the pub bit and took up carpentry. So it is unlikely that the pub still exists, but I'd love for someone to prove me wrong. Thanks Denise

Retrospectives: Llandeilo, CMN; Brychgoed Chapel, Heol Senni, BRE Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A winter visit to the picturesque old town of Llandeilo in the county of Carmarthenshire (eleven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in January 1999. 2. A two-page description of the remotely situated Brychgoed Independent Chapel, near Heol Senni, in Defynnog Parish, county of Breconshire (seventeen pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in June 2004. As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone;   Being new to the list I am hoping that someone can direct me to the Cardiganshire Marriage list 1813 onward.   I have just viewed the Llanbadarn Trefelgwys PRs looking for the marriage of Daniel Lewis and Margaret Jones/ Williams about 1815.  It was a bit of a disappointment with only a few marriages in 1799 and 1800. Lorilee Ali

Hi Lynne The question of where marriage records are currently kept can be confused - and all I'm doing here is pointing you at data which may clarify things. Genuki has pages which attempt to summarise the historic movements of places within and between RDs ; Clifton, Glos appears on this page below and seems to involve Clifton RD, Barton Regis RD and North Bristol RD at various times - with the registers landing up in Bristol RO. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/gls.htm Likewise Islington, see this page below; it moved between Middlesex and London districts, and then Greater London, but the registers still seem to be in Islington RD. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/islington.html The data includes the dates that places were in which RD. Good luck Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Charles" <lynnecharles7@hotmail.com> To: "Pembroke FHS" <daibevan@clara.co.uk>; "Dyfed Rootsweb" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Sometime ago I asked the Clifton Bristol and Islington London Registry > office, if they would do a search for me with regard to my G/Grandmother's > marriage between 1870-1874. Mary Anne Charles was born in Clifton but > lived in Islington at the time of marriage to a Herman Nullmeyer. > > On both accounts they told me that they do not have any records over 100 > years old, and they could not tell me were these record were kept either. > > Regards Lynne

If a register office has registers in its charge, they are legally obliged to issue an applicant with a certificate corresponding to an entry on those registers. They are not obliged to allow anybody to scan those registers, and, in fact, will not do so. Members of the public have, on payment of a general search charge, the right to inspect the index to the registers, but no member of the public has a right to inspect the registers themselves. Church registers are kept by the church, and they usually regularly send a copy of the entries in their marriage registers to the local register office. On completion of each register, it is sent to the relevant archive, and which archive this is depends on the denomination and the geographical location of the church. In the case of Anglican churches in Manchester, for example, it is the Manchester Central Library, and you can review registers there. In North Yorkshire, the register office does not get a report of marriages from churches until the register is full, although this is unusual - there, you can only get a certificate from the GRO or the church itself until the register is complete. Register Office marriages are kept by the Register Office, and they don't deposit them anywhere else, they just send returns to the GRO. Consequently these marriages will not be released to any organization for scanning or publication, and unless there is a complete change of policy, I do not see this ever happening. Archives holding church marriage details are in a completely different situation, and are constrained only by the agreement they have with the church concerned about publication of the details. As to your problem with the two register offices you mention, there (as I say) is no reason why they should not produce certificates in their charge. If they say they do not have records over 100 years old, this may be because of reasons such as flood, fire, enemy action, etc., meaning they have been destroyed, but it is far more likely they are prevaricating, especially if they cannot direct you to a register office which does have the necessary registers. Personally, I would press them for a reason they cannot supply certificates over 100 years old and take it from there. I hope this helps with the confusion. Best wishes Allen Williams Sale Cheshire On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:34:19 -0000, Lynne Charles <lynnecharles7@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Di, Thank you for the reply. > I am confused, census records are government owned records and they are > released. So what is the problem with registry office marriage records. > > > Sometime ago I asked the Clifton Bristol and Islington London Registry > office, if they would do a search for me with regard to my > G/Grandmother's marriage between 1870-1874. Mary Anne Charles was born > in Clifton but lived in Islington at the time of marriage to a Herman > Nullmeyer. > On both accounts they told me that they do not have any records over 100 > years old, and they could not tell me were these record were kept either. > Regards Lynne > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:08:46 +0000 > From: daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: lynnecharles7@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > It's a matter of ownership, Lynne. Church registers are deposited with > the archives office when they are full, as many old ones have been lost > because they got damp, were stolen, the church caught fire etc. The > Register Office is a government building, and nothing to do with the > church. They keep their own registers securely, for ever. Ancestry > has scanned registers from the London Metropolitan archive - so they do > not have those registers that are kept at Guildhall or Westminster > archives either (mostly Westminster and City of London registers). > > Dai > > Lynne Charles wrote: > > > > Hi Di, > Sorry I meant to say LONDON scand. > I can not see the point of doing half a job can you. If Ancestry are > going to scan marriage certificates anywhere in the country, they should > all not just church weddings, but all that took place in the area or > county. > Rg Lynne > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:31:33 +0000 > From: daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: lynnecharles7@hotmail.com > CC: dyfed@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Lynne, > The GRO indexes are just that - indexes, and cover all marriages. There > are no images of certificates. As far as I can see, the only images of > parish registers on Ancestry are for London (Surrey and Middlesex). > These are for churches only. I doubt if Register Office Marriages will > ever be on line unless there is a change of heart in government. > > Dai > > Lynne Charles wrote: > > > Hi all, > I have been told that the scand marriages on ancestry are only church > weddings, when are the registry office marriages going to be treated in > the same way. > Rg Lynne > > >> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:28:45 +0000 >> From: daibevan@clara.co.uk >> To: DYFED@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths >> >> Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are >> now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and >> marriages are. 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I would email the London Metropolitan Archives and re-ask the question for Islington. There will be copies of the registers held at one or more of the Registry Offices in London - unless they have been transferred in toto to the LMA. There have been many changes of responsibilities in London since 1870-1874 - but if anyone should know the answer - it is the LMA. Same thing but not so acute for Bristol. Just re-ask the same question. You may just have got the staff in the middle of a move, or a bad-hair day. And thanks to Gerry for sending the link to Howard's summary of Cardinal Points. Just need West Wales to be indexed now!! But if it works for the East End of London, I guess it will work anywhere. Come and meet Howard at WDYTYA 2010 - he will be on the GOONS Bookstall - he usually is. He is a very entertaining and good speaker. Brian Brian Picton Swann -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Charles Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:56 PM To: Gerry Rootsweb. Lewis; Dyfed Rootsweb Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths and Howard Benbrook's Cardinal Points Hi, I thank you for this information. Sometime ago I asked the Clifton Bristol and Islington London Registry office, if they would do a search for me with regard to my G/Grandmother's marriage between 1870-1874. Mary Anne Charles was born in Clifton but lived in Islington at the time of marriage to a Herman Nullmeyer. On both accounts they told me that they do not have any records over 100 years old, and they could not tell me were these record were kept either. Regards Lynne Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:31:20 +0000 From: gerry@asterisk.co.uk To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths and Howard Benbrook's Cardinal Points On 4/12/09 09:23, "brian swann" <bps@norvic8.force9.co.uk> wrote: Have you ever heard Howard Benbrook speak on Cardinal Points? How to get copies of marriage certificates, 1837-1911, from your local Record Office for the cost of an A3 photocopy instead of £7 a time. Very useful if doing a One-Name study. Happy to explain if you have not. Brian Brian Picton Swann ISOGG Regional Co-ordinator, England & Wales Alternatively go to : http://www.ofhs.org.uk/lecture-notes/CardinalPoints-ThePrinciples.pdf and download the pdf. Thank you Brian for drawing our attention to this. I'll be reading it with much interest. Gerry Lewis

Hi Di, Thank you for the reply. I am confused, census records are government owned records and they are released. So what is the problem with registry office marriage records. Sometime ago I asked the Clifton Bristol and Islington London Registry office, if they would do a search for me with regard to my G/Grandmother's marriage between 1870-1874. Mary Anne Charles was born in Clifton but lived in Islington at the time of marriage to a Herman Nullmeyer. On both accounts they told me that they do not have any records over 100 years old, and they could not tell me were these record were kept either. Regards Lynne Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:08:46 +0000 From: daibevan@clara.co.uk To: lynnecharles7@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths It's a matter of ownership, Lynne. Church registers are deposited with the archives office when they are full, as many old ones have been lost because they got damp, were stolen, the church caught fire etc. The Register Office is a government building, and nothing to do with the church. They keep their own registers securely, for ever. Ancestry has scanned registers from the London Metropolitan archive - so they do not have those registers that are kept at Guildhall or Westminster archives either (mostly Westminster and City of London registers). Dai Lynne Charles wrote: Hi Di, Sorry I meant to say LONDON scand. I can not see the point of doing half a job can you. If Ancestry are going to scan marriage certificates anywhere in the country, they should all not just church weddings, but all that took place in the area or county. Rg Lynne Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:31:33 +0000 From: daibevan@clara.co.uk To: lynnecharles7@hotmail.com CC: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths Lynne, The GRO indexes are just that - indexes, and cover all marriages. There are no images of certificates. As far as I can see, the only images of parish registers on Ancestry are for London (Surrey and Middlesex). These are for churches only. I doubt if Register Office Marriages will ever be on line unless there is a change of heart in government. Dai Lynne Charles wrote: Hi all, I have been told that the scand marriages on ancestry are only church weddings, when are the registry office marriages going to be treated in the same way. Rg Lynne > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:28:45 +0000 > From: daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: DYFED@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are > now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and > marriages are. The link still says '1984 to 2005', but actually searches > from 1916. > > Dai > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Hi, I thank you for this information. Sometime ago I asked the Clifton Bristol and Islington London Registry office, if they would do a search for me with regard to my G/Grandmother's marriage between 1870-1874. Mary Anne Charles was born in Clifton but lived in Islington at the time of marriage to a Herman Nullmeyer. On both accounts they told me that they do not have any records over 100 years old, and they could not tell me were these record were kept either. Regards Lynne > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:31:20 +0000 > From: gerry@asterisk.co.uk > To: dyfed@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths and Howard Benbrook's Cardinal Points > > On 4/12/09 09:23, "brian swann" <bps@norvic8.force9.co.uk> wrote: > > > Have you ever heard Howard Benbrook speak on Cardinal Points? > > > > How to get copies of marriage certificates, 1837-1911, from your local > > Record Office for the cost of an A3 photocopy instead of £7 a time. Very > > useful if doing a One-Name study. > > > > Happy to explain if you have not. > > > > Brian > > > > Brian Picton Swann > > ISOGG Regional Co-ordinator, England & Wales > > > Alternatively go to : > > http://www.ofhs.org.uk/lecture-notes/CardinalPoints-ThePrinciples.pdf > > and download the pdf. > > Thank you Brian for drawing our attention to this. I'll be reading it with > much interest. > > Gerry Lewis > > > > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

On 4/12/09 09:23, "brian swann" <bps@norvic8.force9.co.uk> wrote: > Have you ever heard Howard Benbrook speak on Cardinal Points? > > How to get copies of marriage certificates, 1837-1911, from your local > Record Office for the cost of an A3 photocopy instead of £7 a time. Very > useful if doing a One-Name study. > > Happy to explain if you have not. > > Brian > > Brian Picton Swann > ISOGG Regional Co-ordinator, England & Wales Alternatively go to : http://www.ofhs.org.uk/lecture-notes/CardinalPoints-ThePrinciples.pdf and download the pdf. Thank you Brian for drawing our attention to this. I'll be reading it with much interest. Gerry Lewis

Dear Henry, You could not have two more common surnames than Davies and Harries....if you have traced Charles in census entries later than 1841 can you tell me please what is given as his birthplace?. If you have the parish register marriage record, who were the witnesses? Folks usually married in the bride's parish...so thee are a couple of possibles for Mary Harries' parents if they married at Steynton.. John Harries 1800 married Penelope Roberts William Harries 1807 married Elizabeth Roach There is a Will listed at Steynton for a John Harries in 1816.....now The Nat. Library has pre-1858 Wills on line you could perhaps look that one up to see if Mary is mentioned. There is also a Will for a Mary Davies proved at Prendergast 1848 and one for 1849 Prendergast, Haverfordwest........these areas are not very far from the uppermost parts of Steynton, so perhaps they are worth a quick look as well. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Preselly@aol.com> To: <Dyfed-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Charles DAVIES and Mary HARRIES m. Steynton 9 Jan 1831 >I wonder if any lister can help. The above were one set of my wife's 2x > gt grandparents. Charles Davies was a butcher in Milford Haven (Steynton > as > was). I think Mary died between the 1841 and 1851 census, because I > believe Charles remarried an Eleanor Brown from Dale. Charles was born > circa > 1811. > > I am trying to trace parents of Charles and Mary, so if anyone can help I > will be pleased to hear. > > Many thanks > > Henry Johnston > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you ever heard Howard Benbrook speak on Cardinal Points? How to get copies of marriage certificates, 1837-1911, from your local Record Office for the cost of an A3 photocopy instead of £7 a time. Very useful if doing a One-Name study. Happy to explain if you have not. Brian Brian Picton Swann ISOGG Regional Co-ordinator, England & Wales -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dai & Angela Bevan Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:32 AM To: Lynne Charles Cc: Dyfed Rootsweb Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths Lynne, The GRO indexes are just that - indexes, and cover all marriages. There are no images of certificates. As far as I can see, the only images of parish registers on Ancestry are for London (Surrey and Middlesex). These are for churches only. I doubt if Register Office Marriages will ever be on line unless there is a change of heart in government. Dai Lynne Charles wrote: Hi all, I have been told that the scand marriages on ancestry are only church weddings, when are the registry office marriages going to be treated in the same way. Rg Lynne > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:28:45 +0000 > From: [1]daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: [2]DYFED@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are > now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and > marriages are. The link still says '1984 to 2005', but actually searches > from 1916. > > Dai > > > ================================ > Dyfed list [3]http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [4]DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail [5]Find out how. References 1. mailto:daibevan@clara.co.uk 2. mailto:DYFED@rootsweb.com 3. http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html 4. mailto:DYFED-request@rootsweb.com 5. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/%20 ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Di, Sorry I meant to say LONDON scand. I can not see the point of doing half a job can you. If Ancestry are going to scan marriage certificates anywhere in the country, they should all not just church weddings, but all that took place in the area or county. Rg Lynne Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:31:33 +0000 From: daibevan@clara.co.uk To: lynnecharles7@hotmail.com CC: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths Lynne, The GRO indexes are just that - indexes, and cover all marriages. There are no images of certificates. As far as I can see, the only images of parish registers on Ancestry are for London (Surrey and Middlesex). These are for churches only. I doubt if Register Office Marriages will ever be on line unless there is a change of heart in government. Dai Lynne Charles wrote: Hi all, I have been told that the scand marriages on ancestry are only church weddings, when are the registry office marriages going to be treated in the same way. Rg Lynne > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:28:45 +0000 > From: daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: DYFED@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are > now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and > marriages are. The link still says '1984 to 2005', but actually searches > from 1916. > > Dai > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Lynne, The GRO indexes are just that - indexes, and cover all marriages. There are no images of certificates. As far as I can see, the only images of parish registers on Ancestry are for London (Surrey and Middlesex). These are for churches only. I doubt if Register Office Marriages will ever be on line unless there is a change of heart in government. Dai Lynne Charles wrote: Hi all, I have been told that the scand marriages on ancestry are only church weddings, when are the registry office marriages going to be treated in the same way. Rg Lynne > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:28:45 +0000 > From: [1]daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: [2]DYFED@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are > now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and > marriages are. The link still says '1984 to 2005', but actually searches > from 1916. > > Dai > > > ================================ > Dyfed list [3]http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [4]DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________ New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail [5]Find out how. References 1. mailto:daibevan@clara.co.uk 2. mailto:DYFED@rootsweb.com 3. http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html 4. mailto:DYFED-request@rootsweb.com 5. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/%20

Hi all, I have been told that the scand marriages on ancestry are only church weddings, when are the registry office marriages going to be treated in the same way. Rg Lynne > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:28:45 +0000 > From: daibevan@clara.co.uk > To: DYFED@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dyfed] Ancestry indexed deaths > > Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are > now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and > marriages are. The link still says '1984 to 2005', but actually searches > from 1916. > > Dai > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Those with access to ancestry may not have noticed that GRO deaths are now searchable from 1916 to 1005, in the same way that births and marriages are. The link still says '1984 to 2005', but actually searches from 1916. Dai

Dear Listers, I've just uploaded onto my website complete transcriptions of the 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901, and 1911 censuses for the historic Christ College School in Brecon. The transcripts record details of all members of staff, servants, and pupils who were residing at the school on census night. The transcripts are linked directly from my 'Welsh Family History Archive': www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ They are also linked (as Note 4) from the 'Brecon - Christ College Chapel' webpage on my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection': www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/search-fram.htm In due course I shall add a selection of photographs of the interior of Christ College Chapel to supplement the existing exterior shots. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Deck the Halls is sung at every Christmas Eve service I have ever attended. That is usually saved for last, leaving everyone with a lively, joyful feeling as they leave church. Karen Larson Seattle, Washington, USA -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Morgan Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:07 AM To: Dyfed FamHist Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Welsh songs Hello Vera Never mind the Welsh schools, what about the Americans. Are they still singing that traditional of Dyfed carols? Deck the Hall's (Nos Galan). Gareth --- On Wed, 2/12/09, vera lowe <v.lowe@btinternet.com> wrote: Do any schools in Wales still sing the traditional Welsh songs like "The Ash Grove" and "the Men of Harlech" etc. etc.? They were all in "The national Songbook" which was used by schools in my day. Vera ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message