Looking at that Book on Cillgerran that was mentioned on the List,I can see no reference to my Ancestors Thomas HUMPHREYS who married Elizabeth LLEWELLIN [born about 1770 in Eglwyswrw,Pembs;]at Cillgerran on the 24 May 1794. Their Daughter Ann HUMPHREYS,[1802-1872]married to John BOWEN,[1802-1865] at Cardigan in 1828. They were my 4 x great,grandparents. Does anyone know if the Cilggerran Registers have been Indexed please? Thomas HUMPHREYS was born about 1770, and could be the son of another of that same name, who married Elizabeth EVAN,on the 23 october 1767 at Cillgerran. Many Thanks,and Happy Christmas. Graham. Graham Williams.of Canton,Cardiff. Chairman,"Canton Historical Society". Glam;FHS;#551.

Looking for the records of Benjamin Evans c 1788 Llandybie Mary John c 1787 Lannewydd (New Church) Regards David

Hello Listers, I have now completed my revision and update of my website on Welsh Chapels and Churches. Please see http://www.welshchapelsandchurches.org/ I trust you like the site and are now able more easily to find your way around. I recommend that you read the Site Map which shows how the website is laid out. You will find that there is now a Search facility within the website, which should find most of what you are looking for, if of course the photo is on the website. I am most grateful to Jeff Coleman, Gareth Hicks, Jennie Newman and Deric John for looking over the site for me and offering suggestions. My best wishes, Jill

Well, my earliest Picton ancestor was John Picton, sloopman of Cosheston, who was buried in 1815 - perhaps this was his boat! This list may like to know that the International Society of Genetic Genealogy will have a Stand for three days at WDYTYA end of February 2010, next door to Family Tree DNA in the new DNA Area. If any members from Dyfed (Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire, Cardiganshire) will be attending - then I will be very pleased to make your acquaintance. Stand No. 528 on what looks like a Tithe Map plot of Olympia Hall. Best regards and thanks for all the pictures John. Any more of this area of Pembrokeshire much appreciated. Brian -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Ball Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:29 AM To: Dyfed List Subject: [Dyfed] Retrospectives: Old Shipwreck, Lawrenny Quay, PEM;Ynystawe Park, Swansea, GLA Retrospectives: Old Shipwreck, Lawrenny Quay, PEM; Ynystawe Park, Swansea, GLA Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. Discovery of the rotting remains of an old ship's hull near Lawrenny Quay in the county of Pembrokeshire (six pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998. 2. A visit to Ynystawe Park on the northern outskirts of Swansea in the county of Glamorgan (six pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in April 1998. As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: 12/19/09 08:33:00

Retrospectives: Old Shipwreck, Lawrenny Quay, PEM; Ynystawe Park, Swansea, GLA Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. Discovery of the rotting remains of an old ship's hull near Lawrenny Quay in the county of Pembrokeshire (six pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998. 2. A visit to Ynystawe Park on the northern outskirts of Swansea in the county of Glamorgan (six pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in April 1998. As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Annie I have links to the Lodwick's of Gartheli, if you want to make contact John -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cardi2@aol.com Sent: 27 October 2009 22:49 To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] Lodowick I believe there is someone on this list who has Lodowick ancestors. Could she please contact me. thanks, Annie ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow! That is a lot, Richard, very many thanks, I will work through gradually and amend my records. I expect Jenifer will be interested in this proof of a Jewish community in Wales too. Anne Richard Rose wrote: > Herewith from my "Pembroke People" all the information I can offer on > this topic.

Just thought of an earlier group, this one in Pembroke. Samuel LEVI married Mary BLEAR in Bristol in 1765 and their grand-daughter Mary Anne MAKEIG married my Simon DAVIES of Penbryn, who was a surgeon in Cardigan town. I was told that Samuel LEVI and his brother Moses came from Frankfurt-on-Maine, Germany, via London. They are thought to have joined other Jewish families in Haverfordwest PEM. There is quite a history to this group, and one of them may have set up a bank which survived until c.1826. Anne > Jennifer Cairns wrote: > I have a Jewish friend in Lampeter whose siblings went to a Jewish > boarding school (she thinks) in Llandyssul. > Has anyone any knowledge of this, and of any 18th/19th/early 20th > century (or older) Jewish people in Dyfed? > > Interesting, Jennifer. I don't know much about it but I followed the > ISAAC line which married into mine. They were certainly in Llanfihangel > Ystrad CGN by c.1810. I believe some are buried in St Vitalis, Dihewid. > Anne

Hello Gareth and David, Thank you for your very informative replies. Regards, Alison http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llanybydder/Aberduar.html > > > (mentions a) > > > > Hanes Eglwys Aberduar > > [The History of Aberduar Church] [Baptist ] > > By W Hugh Davies, Gomer 1962 > > > > > David > > Canberra > > > > > On 13/12/2009, at 8:17, Gareth wrote: > > > > Hi Alison > Peithyn Farm in Llanybydder parish is on the modern map at > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=255390&y=242115&z=0&sv=255390,242115&st=4&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf > It's south east of Llanybydder village near Capel Iago on the B4337

Good spot David ! :-) In fact the entry in the book, now that I've found it, is simply 'John Davies, Peithyn' amongst a number of names of farmers who were involved with the chapel in c1835 Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ----- Original Message ----- From: David Rowlands To: Gareth Cc: Dyfed Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Peinthyn Farm, Llanybyther And you indexed a book that mentions it, Gareth! http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llanybydder/Aberduar.html (mentions a) Hanes Eglwys Aberduar [The History of Aberduar Church] [Baptist ] By W Hugh Davies, Gomer 1962 David Canberra On 13/12/2009, at 8:17, Gareth wrote: Hi Alison Peithyn Farm in Llanybydder parish is on the modern map at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=255390&y=242115&z=0&sv=255390,242115&st=4&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf It's south east of Llanybydder village near Capel Iago on the B4337 Gareth Would anyone know anything about Peinthyn Farm, Llanybyther c1950 ? Regards, Alison

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:29:32 -0000, David Rowlands <drowlan1@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > ...(Rev John Thomas > 1843-1924) was from the Llanfihangel genau'r glyn area, of farming > stock, but somehow got a master's degree at Oxford in 1872 and became > a vicar, ending up at Laugharne > David > Canberra David Do not be surprised that your kinsman went up to Oxford. In Wales, the University of Oxford was seen as an academic pinnacle of achievement and there is a long association of the University with Wales. Indeed Oxford is one of the few English cities having a distinctive Welsh name (Rhydychen). The connexions of Jesus College with Wales is particularly close. See http://www.jesus.ox.ac.uk/history/welsh.php When I was there in the early 1970s the place teemed with Welshmen. There is even an Oxford Welsh Male Voice Choir in the city (although most members are English). Best wishes Allen Williams Sale Cheshire -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

I have also found the new bmd searches on Ancestry very useful. However, there is a (not altogether surprising) feature which I find both amusing and a little irritating, and that is to do with their "hints" which appear if you work on a tree uploaded to the Ancestry site. When you have found a birth death or marriage by another route (say, freeBMD) and enter it for that person, up pops the same information as a hint! Thanks very much, Ancestry. But, with the arrival of the death indexes, if you can get the birth date of an individual, and they have died in the period after date of birth became recorded on the death certificate, up pops the death record as a hint straight away, no searching required! Thanks very much, Ancestry (this time not ironic thanks). This is a real boon if (like me) you are looking for Williams, Thomas, Davies, etc. etc., in Llanelli. Best wishes Allen Williams Sale Cheshire On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:45:19 -0000, LeaMarie Robertson <leamarrob@gmail.com> wrote: > I just wanted to thank Dai for the information he posted on Dec. 4 about > the > more recent Ancestry.com death records now including 1916 to 2005.Lea > ================================ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

And you indexed a book that mentions it, Gareth! http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llanybydder/Aberduar.html (mentions a John Davies, Peithyn) Hanes Eglwys Aberduar [The History of Aberduar Church] [Baptist ] By W Hugh Davies, Gomer 1962 David Canberra On 13/12/2009, at 8:17, Gareth wrote: > Hi Alison > Peithyn Farm in Llanybydder parish is on the modern map at > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=255390&y=242115&z=0&sv=255390,242115&st=4&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf > It's south east of Llanybydder village near Capel Iago on the B4337 > > Gareth >> >> Would anyone know anything about Peinthyn Farm, Llanybyther c1950 ? >> >> Regards, >> Alison

I though listers might like to know that the Mormom's Family Search site has a new area under development that might be of interest - its called record search, and brings up a lot of data - its mainly American records currently, but I think its worth keeping an eye on it as it develops.  The link is http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home best wishes Megan

Jennifer Cairns wrote: > I have a Jewish friend in Lampeter whose siblings went to a Jewish boarding school (she thinks) in Llandyssul. Has anyone any knowledge of this, and of any 18th/19th/early 20th century (or older) Jewish people in Dyfed? Interesting, Jennifer. I don't know much about it but I followed the ISAAC line which married into mine. They were certainly in Llanfihangel Ystrad CGN by c.1810. I believe some are buried in St Vitalis, Dihewid. Anne

Hi Alison Peithyn Farm in Llanybydder parish is on the modern map at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=255390&y=242115&z=0&sv=255390,242115&st=4&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf It's south east of Llanybydder village near Capel Iago on the B4337 Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Wild" <alison.wild@tesco.net> To: <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Peinthyn Farm, Llanybyther > Hello, > > Would anyone know anything about Peinthyn Farm, Llanybyther c1950 ? > > Regards, > Alison

Hello, Would anyone know anything about Peinthyn Farm, Llanybyther c1950 ? Regards, Alison

I just wanted to thank Dai for the information he posted on Dec. 4 about the more recent Ancestry.com death records now including 1916 to 2005. With that information I took the opportunity to look up the death date of one of my ancestors, Mary Ann Susannah Josephine Williams, who I had supposed died around 1912 or so, shortly after an operation. She lived until 1947! That has been a perplexing question in my family for years! Thank you for the information Dai. Lea

Lynne As a matter of general interest, these boarding schools can sometimes still be around and hold records of value. When I was trying to work out what became of my great grandmother's brother's family, school records helped. He (Rev John Thomas 1843-1924) was from the Llanfihangel genau'r glyn area, of farming stock, but somehow got a master's degree at Oxford in 1872 and became a vicar, ending up at Laugharne (which I visited last April and, to my surprise and delight, found a stone plaque on the inside wall of the old church in memory of him and his wife). His two sons I found at a school in England in the 1891 census (St John's) and a quick Google found the school. The secretary of the Old Johnian Society kindly emailed me records, which included not only interesting detail of their school careers but a few clues as to what happened afterward, through to the 1950s! Anyway, my message is that school records can be useful and may be surprisingly accessible from afar. I found the same in respect of the children of another of my great grandmother's siblings, who lived in Borth, but whose children went to Llandovery College. Hwyl fawr David Canberra On 12/12/2009, at 1:22, Lynne Kleingertner wrote: > Hi Jen, > > You probably already know about this website for Jewish Communities > and > Congregations in Wales. > http://www.jewishgen.org/SIGs/JCRUK/wales_counties.htm . I ran > across it > while taking a genealogy course recently. > > I was interested in your comment about a connection between the Jewish > boarding school in Landyssul and Brighton/Hove. My Davies ancestors > weren't > Jewish, but in 1861 my Gr. Grandfather and two of his brothers (from > Tal-y-bont) were in boarding school in Brighton. I'm curious to > learn more > about boarding schools, how they were chosen etc. It's on my list > of things > to learn, when I first learn how to pack a 30 hour genealogy day > into a > real-time 24 hour day!! > > Lynne > > > ================================ > Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Retrospectives: Local Shops and Cafés; Sheep in Wales (various locations) Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A miscellany of small shops and cafés in the towns and villages of mid and south Wales (nine pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in November 1998. 2. Sheep in the landscape of Breconshire and Glamorgan (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998. As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists