William James, mason, s,of John James, labourer, married Ann Morris, d. of William Morris, labourer, both"of age", at Letterstone Parish Church, July 15th. 1847. William's residence at time of marriage, is Clawdd=cam, Llanreithan, Ann's residence is Bill Hook. I am seeking help/advice in locating the birth of Wm. and/or Ann. Is any list member linked to these families? Reuben Living in hope

Dear Anna and Gareth Brilliant! Thanks loads for your help. I think you're right, Anna - the place is Pwll rhyd pwnau, or at least the enumerator's version of that! And it also seems likely that Edward Mainwaring worked at Brynhenllys colliery. Thanks for the excellent links to the map and to the information about the colliery. It has really helped to provide a context for Edward's life there in 1841. Thank you to both of you again. With very best wishes Moni 2010/1/18 Gareth <tirbach@clara.co.uk> > Moni > Following on Anna 's comments. > > As well as the link Anna gave, there are also references to Brynhenllys and > Ystradowen on the Coal Mining pages of my Cwmgors a'r Waun site > http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Coal.html > (Then use your browser's Find facility) > > Thanks from me for that Archaeology Data Service site link too Anna, looks > a site well worth exploring in depth > > Gareth > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html > > > fromAnna Brueton <bruetons@anoeth.demon.co.uk> > toA Spell In Time <spellintime@googlemail.com>, > Dyfed@rootsweb.com > date18 January 2010 20:00 > subjectRe: [Dyfed] Help with a place name in Llangadog, CMN > hide details 20:00 (4 hours ago) > > Hi again Moni > I've now found the place at www.old-maps.co.uk on the 1888 Brecknockshire > map, where it's shown as Pwll rhyd pwnau. OS Coordinates are approximately > SN748124, the coordinates shown at old-maps are 275000 212400. > > Anna >

Moni Following on Anna 's comments. As well as the link Anna gave, there are also references to Brynhenllys and Ystradowen on the Coal Mining pages of my Cwmgors a'r Waun site http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Coal.html (Then use your browser's Find facility) Thanks from me for that Archaeology Data Service site link too Anna, looks a site well worth exploring in depth Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Brueton" <bruetons@anoeth.demon.co.uk> To: "A Spell In Time" <spellintime@googlemail.com>; <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Help with a place name in Llangadog, CMN > Hi Moni > > It looks to me like Rhyd y frynnu, though I can't find that on a > modern map. It's also diffcult to make it out from the enumerator's > walk since he seems to have wandered about a bit. However he is > definitely at the south eastern end of Quarter bach, somewhere near > Ystradown. There was a colliery at nearby Brynhenllys, opened in > 1792 - see > http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/cbaresrep/pdf/079/07903007.pdf > > Hope this helps > > Anna

Hi again Moni I've now found the place at www.old-maps.co.uk on the 1888 Brecknockshire map, where it's shown as Pwll rhyd pwnau. OS Coordinates are approximately SN748124, the coordinates shown at old-maps are 275000 212400. Anna At 18/01/2010 13:41 U+0000, A Spell In Time wrote: >Hi everyone > >I'm hoping that someone can help with deciphering a place name in the parish >of Llangadog in the 1841 census. > >My Edward Mainwaring was recorded as Edward Manry, working as a collier in >the parish of Llangadock, I can't make out his address properly. It looks >like Pwyllrhyd uprymu. Does this ring a bell with anyone? The 1841 census >reference is: > >Class: HO107; Piece 1386; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Llangadock; County: >Carmarthenshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 40; Page: 10; Line: >4; GSU roll: 464312 > >Edward Manry (Mainwaring) is on the right.hand side of the page. Does >anyone know which colliery he was likely to be working at? > >With many thanks and best wishes > >Moni > >================================ >Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Moni It looks to me like Rhyd y frynnu, though I can't find that on a modern map. It's also diffcult to make it out from the enumerator's walk since he seems to have wandered about a bit. However he is definitely at the south eastern end of Quarter bach, somewhere near Ystradown. There was a colliery at nearby Brynhenllys, opened in 1792 - see http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/cbaresrep/pdf/079/07903007.pdf Hope this helps Anna At 18/01/2010 13:41 U+0000, A Spell In Time wrote: >Hi everyone > >I'm hoping that someone can help with deciphering a place name in the parish >of Llangadog in the 1841 census. > >My Edward Mainwaring was recorded as Edward Manry, working as a collier in >the parish of Llangadock, I can't make out his address properly. It looks >like Pwyllrhyd uprymu. Does this ring a bell with anyone? The 1841 census >reference is: > >Class: HO107; Piece 1386; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Llangadock; County: >Carmarthenshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 40; Page: 10; Line: >4; GSU roll: 464312 > >Edward Manry (Mainwaring) is on the right.hand side of the page. Does >anyone know which colliery he was likely to be working at? > >With many thanks and best wishes > >Moni > >================================ >Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mervyn Do you know any more about the family? I have a David JONES born about 1840 in Llanfair CGN. Now I do not know if this was Llanfair Orllwyn or Llanfair Clydogau. He married a Rachel - born about 1840 in Cellan CGN and they had a daughter Elizabeth born about 1867 again in Cellan. She was my great grandmother - married to John EVANS born about 1862 Conwil Caio. Any connection? Tommy -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MERVYN Davies Sent: 18 January 2010 14:43 To: DYFED@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] JONES: Llanfair Orllwyn, Cards. Hi Researching ancestors/relations/connections to JAMES JONES of 'Penrhnirgotta', Llanfairorllwyn. Born circa 1804 in the parish and died 1869. His wife was RACHEL born circa 1806 in the parish of LLANDYFRIOG. She died aged 83 in 1890 and was buried at Llanfairorllwyn. Anyone else with interests in this family or area? Many thanks Mervyn Davies Colchester ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Researching ancestors/relations/connections to JAMES JONES of 'Penrhnirgotta', Llanfairorllwyn. Born circa 1804 in the parish and died 1869. His wife was RACHEL born circa 1806 in the parish of LLANDYFRIOG. She died aged 83 in 1890 and was buried at Llanfairorllwyn. Anyone else with interests in this family or area? Many thanks Mervyn Davies Colchester

Hi everyone I'm hoping that someone can help with deciphering a place name in the parish of Llangadog in the 1841 census. My Edward Mainwaring was recorded as Edward Manry, working as a collier in the parish of Llangadock, I can't make out his address properly. It looks like Pwyllrhyd uprymu. Does this ring a bell with anyone? The 1841 census reference is: Class: HO107; Piece 1386; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Llangadock; County: Carmarthenshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 40; Page: 10; Line: 4; GSU roll: 464312 Edward Manry (Mainwaring) is on the right.hand side of the page. Does anyone know which colliery he was likely to be working at? With many thanks and best wishes Moni

hi tommy, i have no interest in this family but i have found that Rachel Senior's maiden name is Davies. David and Rachel and children are in Conwil Caio with rachel's mother also named Rachel a widow(listed as Widower in census 1881) David and rachel either married in September quarter 1860 in Lampeter 11b 48a or in Carmarthen June quarter 1863 11a 877 but i think more likely the former. other children born to david and rachel are Stephen(abt 1862) John abt 1874 rachel abt 1875 Mary abt 1877 and william abt 1880 hope this helps john in ireland ________________________________ From: Tommy (Dyfed) <dyfed@tommye.plus.com> To: MERVYN Davies <merv.davies@virginmedia.com>; DYFED@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 January, 2010 17:36:46 Subject: Re: [Dyfed] JONES: Llanfair Orllwyn, Cards. Mervyn Do you know any more about the family? I have a David JONES born about 1840 in Llanfair CGN. Now I do not know if this was Llanfair Orllwyn or Llanfair Clydogau. He married a Rachel - born about 1840 in Cellan CGN and they had a daughter Elizabeth born about 1867 again in Cellan. She was my great grandmother - married to John EVANS born about 1862 Conwil Caio. Any connection? Tommy -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MERVYN Davies Sent: 18 January 2010 14:43 To: DYFED@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] JONES: Llanfair Orllwyn, Cards. Hi Researching ancestors/relations/connections to JAMES JONES of 'Penrhnirgotta', Llanfairorllwyn. Born circa 1804 in the parish and died 1869. His wife was RACHEL born circa 1806 in the parish of LLANDYFRIOG. She died aged 83 in 1890 and was buried at Llanfairorllwyn. Anyone else with interests in this family or area? Many thanks Mervyn Davies Colchester ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Photos of: St David' Church, Newtown, MGY Dear Listers, The latest subject to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection' is: St David's Church, Newtown, Montgomeryshire; (photography by Shirley Frost and John Ball). This church closed in 2006 and is currently for sale. Go to www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/ and search the index for the "Newtown - St David" link. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Retrospectives: Ystalyfera, GLA; Blaina, MON Dear Listers, This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. The village of Ystalyfera in the Swansea Valley, county of Glamorgan (four pictures). This feature was one of the first shown on 'Images of Wales' back in December 1997. 2. The village of Blaina in the county of Monmouthshire (five pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1999. As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

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Dear Andy This is a tricky one. I presume you have seen James Jenkins in the 1841 living with George and Susanna Jenkins and family at Tanners Row, Prendergast. James is shown as a Smith and aged 25 and as you know the 1841 rounded adult ages down to the nearest 5 or 0. 1851 we see James now married to Ann living Main Street, Prendergast, with children Thomas, Elizabeth and Susanna. James is shown as a Smith and born in Uzmaston, Haverfordwest, while Ann and the children are shown as born in Prendergast. James is now aged 37 and Ann is 38. So if that is correct then she was born around 1813 not 1821. Back to 1841 looking at all the Ann Bowen's in the area in that year. I see a 25 year old Ann working as a female servant in Gloucester Terrace, Haverfordwest St Martins for a Margaret Phillips and family. Looking at all the Bowen's in Prendergast in 1841, I find a 65 year old Elizabeth Bowen living at the Kilns. She was a lodging house keeper. There were only lodgers at home on census day. There was also a John and Mary Bowen living in Prendergast, John 65 and Mary 70. There was a 9 year old Mary Bowen working as a servant for Thomas Lewis the Grocer in Prendergast and lastly there was a tailor named Thomas Bowen aged 25 in the house of George James also a tailor. I have looked at all the William Bowens that were in Pembrokeshire on the 1841 census and none of them have an occupation which even slightly relates to the one you say your William had. I am not sure if it will help but as James and Ann called their first daughter Elizabeth, a William Bowen married a Elizabeth Banner in Prendergast in 1793. There is also a William Bowen marrying a Anne Ridgard in 1804 in Prendergast. I hope the above will at least give you something to think about. Best Wishes Sylvia ................................................................. Pembrokeshire Census, Memorials, Hearths, Orielton CD's and Baptist Sketches at www.cenquest.co.uk 2009: A year in review - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/2009

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To Sue in Suffolk: I have a lot of Morgans in Llanedi Parish, including a line of William Morgans: William (?-1786), William (?-1820), William (1756-1835), William (1787-1844), William (1814-?), William (1844-?). Most of these lived on the farms Tyllwyd, Pant-y-ffynnon, and Nant-y-gro. Other (related) Morgans have lived at Penllwyn and Plasnewydd, including my great-great grandfather Lewis Morgan. These Morgans were also related to Bowen, Thomas, Price, and other families in Llanedi Parish. There are still descendants of the William Morgans living in Llanedi Parish today. Does anything sound familiar? Any particular Morgans I should look for? --Gordon Morgan in freezing Florida Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:10:23 -0000 From: "Sue" <sue.cartref@virgin.net> Subject: [Dyfed] Genealogy names DYFED To: <Dyfed@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B184F1C7419A4ABCA5BD5999CBDCEFDC@your447023ae6b> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, A Happy 2010 to all. I am putting my research names in the Roll call in the hope something will come up:- MAINWARING in and around Llanedi, Llanon, Llanelli, Llandybie, Ammanford areas Carmarthenshire, from 1400-present day. VAUGHAN - 1500's and before Llanon and Llanedi. MORGAN - 1800's and before Llanon, Llanedi, etc. Best wishes Sue in Suffolk