Dear List https://www.gov.uk/probate-search The Probate Service is making available the wills and last letters home of 280,000 soldiers who died in the Great War. There is a charge of £6 to download a document. It can take up to 10 days to have the document made available. (The will I was interested in took three days to be downloadable [.pdf file]) Searching is quicker if you know the soldier's army number. Jen Cairns

It says you have to know the year of death. I don't know that for the fellow I'm interested in researching, but I do have his service number.. somewhere.. Do you know offhand if there's a way of finding the date of death with the service number?? Rachel Boyd   ________________________________ From: Jennifer Cairns <jenmathias@gmail.com> To: "DYFED-L@rootsweb.com" <DYFED-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: [Dyfed] WWI - some soldiers' wills now available. Dear List https://www.gov.uk/probate-search The Probate Service is making available the wills and last letters home of 280,000 soldiers who died in the Great War. There is a charge of £6 to download a document. It can take up to 10 days to have the document made available. (The will I was interested in took three days to be downloadable [.pdf file]) Searching is quicker if you know the soldier's army number. Jen Cairns ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html  [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, My late mother was very friendly with the above mentioned people. I have some photo's on them, but know not much more. She possible meet them when she trained as a nurse in Manchester childrens Hospital near 1936. Joe Valentine possible was born near 1907/1910. They were a live in 1951 when my mother got married. Think they must have come from the Manchester/Liverpool area. Can somebody help me? Elwyn - netherlands.

Dear Robert, I think I am right in saying that until fairly recently Ted Baillieu was Premier of Victoria, but resigned......anyone interested should be able to trace his path fairly easily. Bettye Kirkwood, Sydney NSW -----Original Message----- From: Robert Treharne Jones Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:53 AM To: 'Dai & Angela Bevan' ; 'dyfed' Cc: howell.donald@ozemail.com.au Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Fwd: George Baillieu I have a great friend in London who is a member of this Baillieu family I'll see if I can dig out more details of the family from him Robert -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dai & Angela Bevan Sent: 31 August 2013 09:17 To: dyfed Cc: howell.donald@ozemail.com.au Subject: [Dyfed] Fwd: George Baillieu Hi all, A note from Vera Lowe in 1910 prompted some discussion in 2010 on the name BAILLIEU. [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 After finding the note in the archives, I received the following note from Don HOWELL. I am forwarding to the list with his permission. (Thank you, Don) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: George Baillieu Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:00:07 +1000 From: Don Howell [2]<howell.donald@ozemail.com.au> To: [3]<daibevan@clara.co.uk> I came across a message string in Rootsweb about Frederick George Baillieu. I have been researching my wife’s family (Rooney) and and one of her relatives (Eileen Mary Rooney) married Frederick George Baillieu. They were married in Maryborough Queensland Australia on 5/11/1917. They had 3 children Redmond Joseph Baillieu born 1919 in NSW Australia (the Redmond comes from Eileen's stepfather William Archer Redmond –related to the Redmonds of the Irish parliament) George Baillieu born 1/8/1920 in Milwaukee Wisconsin USA and Dawn born about 1923 where? As a bit of background the Baillieu families were and still are very influential families in Australia and were very powerful during the late 1800s and early 1900s. They were heavily involved in the mining industry especially the Broken Hill Mines which were at that time the richest silver, lead and zinc mines in the world. Frederick George was related to these families. He was born in Wales. He made a name for himself in Australia as a very successful boxing promoter. Below is his obituary from the New South Wales (NSW) paper. The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 9 August 1926 Obituary MR. GEORGE BAILLIEU. Mr. George Baillieu, well-known throughout Australia as a boxing promoter and sportsman, died in a private hospital at Randwick early yesterday morning. Although his health had been falling for some time Mr. Baillieu, who was 60 years of age, seconded in the principle bout at the Stadium on Saturday night one of his men, Joe Gonsalves. Immediately after he left the Stadium he collapsed. Friends took him to his home, whence Dr. Solomon had him conveyed to hospital. He did not regain consciousness. In his youth Mr. Baillieu, who was a member of the Baillieu family of Melbourne, and like them came from Wales, achieved considerable fame as an amateur sportsman. He was associated in boxing at the National Sporting Club, London, and professionally handled Jim Driscoll, Jimmy Wilde, and Llew Edwards, the champion lightweight. He made several trips from Australia to America and the Philippines in search of boxers for the Stadium. He married a stepdaughter of Mr. W. A. Redmond, of the "Daily Telegraph." She survives him with a family of three children, the eldest of which is not yet seven. The funeral will leave the Church of the Holy Cross, Bondi, Bondi Junction, at 10.30 . o'clock this morning. ------------------------ George Baillieu jnr. (born 1920) was killed in action in WWII in Malaya. As you no doubt can guess with my surname I have Welsh connections. My grandfather came from Loughor, Glamorganshire. Hope this is of some help. Don Howell References 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 2. mailto:howell.donald@ozemail.com.au 3. mailto:daibevan@clara.co.uk ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a great friend in London who is a member of this Baillieu family I'll see if I can dig out more details of the family from him Robert -----Original Message----- From: dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dyfed-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dai & Angela Bevan Sent: 31 August 2013 09:17 To: dyfed Cc: howell.donald@ozemail.com.au Subject: [Dyfed] Fwd: George Baillieu Hi all, A note from Vera Lowe in 1910 prompted some discussion in 2010 on the name BAILLIEU. [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 After finding the note in the archives, I received the following note from Don HOWELL. I am forwarding to the list with his permission. (Thank you, Don) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: George Baillieu Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:00:07 +1000 From: Don Howell [2]<howell.donald@ozemail.com.au> To: [3]<daibevan@clara.co.uk> I came across a message string in Rootsweb about Frederick George Baillieu. I have been researching my wife’s family (Rooney) and and one of her relatives (Eileen Mary Rooney) married Frederick George Baillieu. They were married in Maryborough Queensland Australia on 5/11/1917. They had 3 children Redmond Joseph Baillieu born 1919 in NSW Australia (the Redmond comes from Eileen's stepfather William Archer Redmond –related to the Redmonds of the Irish parliament) George Baillieu born 1/8/1920 in Milwaukee Wisconsin USA and Dawn born about 1923 where? As a bit of background the Baillieu families were and still are very influential families in Australia and were very powerful during the late 1800s and early 1900s. They were heavily involved in the mining industry especially the Broken Hill Mines which were at that time the richest silver, lead and zinc mines in the world. Frederick George was related to these families. He was born in Wales. He made a name for himself in Australia as a very successful boxing promoter. Below is his obituary from the New South Wales (NSW) paper. The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 9 August 1926 Obituary MR. GEORGE BAILLIEU. Mr. George Baillieu, well-known throughout Australia as a boxing promoter and sportsman, died in a private hospital at Randwick early yesterday morning. Although his health had been falling for some time Mr. Baillieu, who was 60 years of age, seconded in the principle bout at the Stadium on Saturday night one of his men, Joe Gonsalves. Immediately after he left the Stadium he collapsed. Friends took him to his home, whence Dr. Solomon had him conveyed to hospital. He did not regain consciousness. In his youth Mr. Baillieu, who was a member of the Baillieu family of Melbourne, and like them came from Wales, achieved considerable fame as an amateur sportsman. He was associated in boxing at the National Sporting Club, London, and professionally handled Jim Driscoll, Jimmy Wilde, and Llew Edwards, the champion lightweight. He made several trips from Australia to America and the Philippines in search of boxers for the Stadium. He married a stepdaughter of Mr. W. A. Redmond, of the "Daily Telegraph." She survives him with a family of three children, the eldest of which is not yet seven. The funeral will leave the Church of the Holy Cross, Bondi, Bondi Junction, at 10.30 . o'clock this morning. ------------------------ George Baillieu jnr. (born 1920) was killed in action in WWII in Malaya. As you no doubt can guess with my surname I have Welsh connections. My grandfather came from Loughor, Glamorganshire. Hope this is of some help. Don Howell References 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 2. mailto:howell.donald@ozemail.com.au 3. mailto:daibevan@clara.co.uk ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oops, As Vera and Achwr pointed out, neither Vera nor the list existed in 1910. I meant 2010.. Dai On 31/08/2013 09:17, Dai & Angela Bevan wrote: > Hi all, > A note from Vera Lowe in 1910 prompted some discussion in 2010 on the name > BAILLIEU. > [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 > After finding the note in the archives, I received the following note from > Don HOWELL. I am forwarding to the list with his permission. (Thank you, > Don) > >

Hello list, My late mother was very friendly with the above mentioned people. I have some photo's on them, but know not much more. She possible meet them when she trained as a nurse in Manchester childrens Hospital near 1936. Joe Valentine possible was born near 1907/1910. They were a live in 1951 when my mother got married. Think they must have come from the Manchester/Liverpool area. Can somebody help me? Elwyn - netherlands.

Referring to the WI description of Tan yr Allt , it mentions the Sunny Hill Estate. I am particularly interested in the area as my Great great grandfather was a Cooper at Dolybont Betws Bledrws. John Davies. Does anyone have the map showing Derry Ormond and Sunny Hill and perhaps the Dolybont cottage which is now long gone? One assumes by the name that it was by the bridge on the river which may have run through th Suny Hill Estate. I had never heard of Sunny Hill Estate before this. Does anyone have any information on that? Sandra

Dear Sandra http://www.dyfedarchaeology.org.uk/HLC/uplandceredigion/sunnyhill.htm Sunny Hill is nowhere near Derry Ormond, but is on the outskirts of Tregaron.  Full info above.  Cheers Jen ________________________________ From: Sandra Hasan <sandra@shasan7.wanadoo.co.uk> To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 12:31 Subject: [Dyfed] Sunnyhill Estate Betws Bledwrs Referring to the WI description of Tan yr Allt , it mentions the Sunny Hill Estate. I am particularly interested in the area as my Great great grandfather was a Cooper at Dolybont Betws Bledrws. John Davies. Does anyone have the map showing Derry Ormond and Sunny Hill and perhaps the Dolybont cottage which is now long gone? One assumes by the name that it was by the bridge on the river which may have run through th Suny Hill Estate. I had never heard of Sunny Hill Estate before this. Does anyone have any information on that? Sandra ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, A note from Vera Lowe in 1910 prompted some discussion in 2010 on the name BAILLIEU. [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 After finding the note in the archives, I received the following note from Don HOWELL. I am forwarding to the list with his permission. (Thank you, Don) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: George Baillieu Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:00:07 +1000 From: Don Howell [2]<howell.donald@ozemail.com.au> To: [3]<daibevan@clara.co.uk> I came across a message string in Rootsweb about Frederick George Baillieu. I have been researching my wife’s family (Rooney) and and one of her relatives (Eileen Mary Rooney) married Frederick George Baillieu. They were married in Maryborough Queensland Australia on 5/11/1917. They had 3 children Redmond Joseph Baillieu born 1919 in NSW Australia (the Redmond comes from Eileen's stepfather William Archer Redmond –related to the Redmonds of the Irish parliament) George Baillieu born 1/8/1920 in Milwaukee Wisconsin USA and Dawn born about 1923 where? As a bit of background the Baillieu families were and still are very influential families in Australia and were very powerful during the late 1800s and early 1900s. They were heavily involved in the mining industry especially the Broken Hill Mines which were at that time the richest silver, lead and zinc mines in the world. Frederick George was related to these families. He was born in Wales. He made a name for himself in Australia as a very successful boxing promoter. Below is his obituary from the New South Wales (NSW) paper. The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 9 August 1926 Obituary MR. GEORGE BAILLIEU. Mr. George Baillieu, well-known throughout Australia as a boxing promoter and sportsman, died in a private hospital at Randwick early yesterday morning. Although his health had been falling for some time Mr. Baillieu, who was 60 years of age, seconded in the principle bout at the Stadium on Saturday night one of his men, Joe Gonsalves. Immediately after he left the Stadium he collapsed. Friends took him to his home, whence Dr. Solomon had him conveyed to hospital. He did not regain consciousness. In his youth Mr. Baillieu, who was a member of the Baillieu family of Melbourne, and like them came from Wales, achieved considerable fame as an amateur sportsman. He was associated in boxing at the National Sporting Club, London, and professionally handled Jim Driscoll, Jimmy Wilde, and Llew Edwards, the champion lightweight. He made several trips from Australia to America and the Philippines in search of boxers for the Stadium. He married a stepdaughter of Mr. W. A. Redmond, of the "Daily Telegraph." She survives him with a family of three children, the eldest of which is not yet seven. The funeral will leave the Church of the Holy Cross, Bondi, Bondi Junction, at 10.30 . o'clock this morning. ------------------------ George Baillieu jnr. (born 1920) was killed in action in WWII in Malaya. As you no doubt can guess with my surname I have Welsh connections. My grandfather came from Loughor, Glamorganshire. Hope this is of some help. Don Howell References 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/dyfed/2010-06/1277934967 2. mailto:howell.donald@ozemail.com.au 3. mailto:daibevan@clara.co.uk

Dear Anne, I came across this, this am - which might add a little more info for you... although not specifically mentioning any James Jones. [From the WI booklet on Tregaron, printed 1984] "Below the road, on the right, overlooking the Croes stream, stands Tanrallt-issa, which in 1840 was part of the Sunny Hill Estate, whose wooded hillside lent its name to the farmstead. It was then farmed by Thomas Jones who also farmed and owned the adjacent, much larger farm of Tanrallt-uchaf. Further along on the left, Nantylles, an even larger farm, overlooks Tanrallt-uchaf on the valley bottom. In 1840 it was part of the Derry Ormond Estate and farmed by John Jones with the very large Camerfawr holding. As early as 1783, Rev. Daniel Rowland of Llangeitho preached at Nantylles, making converts to the new Methodism and they met regularly in the farm. On the marriage of the daughter of Nantylles to Thomas Jones of Tanrallt-uchaf in 1742 the meetings moved with her to the larger house. There in 1744 the informal meetings became officially Y Cymdeithas Eglwysig. Tradition has it that beneath the majestic oak tree at the rear of the house William Williams, Pantycelyn, preached to larger congregations than the house could hold, and there composed the hmn which is number 435 in the present hymn book. Meetings were transferred in 1758 to Penlan in the town. Some hundred years later a daughter of the James family then occupying Tanrallt-uchaf married Rev. Henry Oliver Edwards, a minister in Ysbyty Ystwyth. The latter came into the property and in 1870 he established a water-powered woollen factory which was worked by Watcyn Rees. Many of the blankets and carthenni produced here still exist in the district. The son David Edwardes married, and his wife was the last headteacher of Blaencaron School. Factory and farm have long since fallen silent and only the birds sing neath the old oak."  /end quote Here are some images of the now derelict capel in Blaencaron.. http://www.derelictmisc.org.uk/blaencaron.html# - images of Blaencaron. I have no idea if the old oak is still around in Tanrallt in 2013.  Jen PS the William Williams you mentioned in your first message to List  - this WW was a wealthy (and reputed to be short tempered) sheep farmer and landowner of Pantyseiri, Tregaron. Brother of Nathaniel Williams and who inherited his estate when WW died unmarried.  WW Pantysieri funeral service is said to have been conducted by Daniel Rowlands, and he (WW) is buried in Llanddewi Brefi. (His brother Nathaniel is buried in Ystrad Fflur/Strata Florida) -  So your James Jones, being (presumably) of the Methodist persuasion, could well have witnessed WW's will.William Williams, Pantysieri/Pantysheriff was sometimes known as King of the Mountains. Both he and his brother were High Sheriffs of Cardiganshire at various times. ________________________________ From: ANNE EVANS <anneyvonne.evans@btinternet.com> To: "DYFED@rootsweb.com" <DYFED@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013, 15:15 Subject: [Dyfed] Tan yr Allt Meeting House Tregaron Dear List,   My grateful thanks to everyone who replied to my query about  Tan yr allt Meeting House.   This was not a Quaker Meeting House but Calvinistic  Methodist.  The reason that it sounded like a Quaker gathering was because James Jones in his will of 1789 did not use the chapel name when he left a regular income to it, but called it "Meeting House". This was unusual as the chapel probably had a name by 1789 i.e. it was Capel Bwlchgwynt Tregaron and Tan yr Allt Meeting House was no longer in use. Would anyone possibly know who in fact James Jones was?  There is no house name on his will - just parish of Tregaron. His  executor was his son John Jones. They could possibly be my ancestors.    It is also possible that he witnessed the will  of William Williams1773 who was a wealthy bachelor farmer  of Tregaron/Strata Florida area.   many thanks once again Yvonne ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Ancestry.com are allowing free access to immigration and travel records until September 2. Dai

Again i don't know about Wales but in England and Pennsylvania "pubs" could be the front room of a home, just like sweet shops etc. I am thinking every village had one. Maybe they weren't in big building like now. In 1837 City Directory for Wiltshire in Malmesbury which is a good sized town then, had I believe 8 pubs or beer shops. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 6:54 AM, ANNE EVANS <anneyvonne.evans@btinternet.com > wrote: > Hi List, > I have asked this question some while ago. Does anyone have any knowledge > of a pub at Silian which has been closed for perhaps over a century. > It was either the Golden Lion or Black Lion. Its possible that it was > kept by my g.g.g. grandfather John Jones who later moved to Llanddewi > Brefi and became a farmer farrier at Blaenblodau Llanddewi Brefi. He > would have been at the pub at Silian in the 1820's. I don't really know > how many village pubs were open in those days but perhaps they were > associated with the drovers. > Many thanks > Yvonne Evans > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Dr. Reg, I wondered if you had received answers to your query. It caught my eye because a very long time ago I was Bettye Wilson....and, no, this part of my ancestry had no connection to Wales as far as I know. The only references I have seen to the Wilson surname in Wales appear in the MI's for St. Cristiolus Church, Eglwyswrw..and they appear to have lived or worked in Aberteifi. B-3 shows a couple who lived in the 1900's and C-43 refers to Sarah Wilson of the Brynbwa Arms who died aged 63 in 1884. I can type these MI's out for you if you think they fit in some way. Regards, Bettye Kirkwood -----Original Message----- From: REGINALD DAVIES Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:16 AM To: dyfed@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dyfed] Wilson and Cooke I'm trying to find out more about the Cardigan based grocers Wilson and Cooke. They had a branch at Newport, Pembrokeshire in 1902 which was sold shortly afterwards to J.J. Brown. Reg Davies ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I have asked this question some while ago.  Does anyone have any knowledge of a pub at Silian which has been closed for perhaps over a century. It was either the Golden Lion or Black Lion.  Its possible that it was kept by my g.g.g. grandfather John Jones who later moved to Llanddewi  Brefi and became a farmer farrier at Blaenblodau Llanddewi Brefi.   He would have been at the pub at Silian in the 1820's.  I don't really know how many village pubs were open in those days but perhaps they were associated with the drovers. Many thanks Yvonne Evans

I think that might be 'Burrumbeet', Victoria, Reg. You could try searching Trove, the National Library of Australia's site which includes digitised newspapers (there are 52,000 odd hits for Burrumbeet!) http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=Burrumbeet Hwyl David Canberra On 24/08/2013, at 5:53 PM, REGINALD DAVIES <regandpaddy@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello List,William Evans born 1830 at Parcymarriage, Newport, Pembrokeshire, a master mariner, left the sea aged 38 and built a grand house (for Newport),which is today's Lloyd Bank at the Square. How did he have the means to do this? A local historian had suggested that he had made money in the Californian gold rush. > After passing as a master mariner most of his sailings had been in the Atlantic. However his application to become a master showed that he sailed as a mate on the Alice of Sydney between 16 June and 18 November 1853. His application then showed a gap in his sailings of nearly 4 years. So assuming that the Alice sailed in Australian waters he can be shown to have been in that subcontinent. > In his will, probate 1908, he bequeathed to the London Missionary Society a piece of land in the parish of Burrumbees, Victoria, Australia which I understand was once a gold mining area. Could this have been a source of his wealth? Can one find out the exact location of his land and what the Missionary Society did with it. > > hwyl > Reg Davies > http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Thanks Lynne and Yr Achwr for the replies. Over the years ,I've tried the different registers offices for possible matches but to no avail .Who knows ,I might find the marriage one day ! There's a possibility that they were married in Rhydlwyd chapel or the chapel in Swyddffynnon ,Jane was christened there .Although I've come across baptism records for Rhydlwyd there doesn't seem to be marriage records for 1850's in any of the transcribed sites . Back to the drawing board. Diolch unwaith eto .Thanks again Buddug On 23/08/2013 23:53, yr achwr wrote: > Buddug & Lynne, > > Swansea is well outside the area. > > I would expect to find the marriage, if they married locally, in Aberystwyth, Aberaeron, Tregaron or Lampeter Registration Districts. > > The only possible marriages I can find between March Qtr 1849 and Dec Qtr 1852 for a Daniel Jones and Jane Jones are given below. > > > > Marriages Mar 1849 > > Humphreys Anne Aberystwyth 27 27 > Jones Daniel Aberystwith 27 27 > Jones Evan Aberystwith 27 27 > Jones Jane Aberystwyth 27 27 > Jones John Aberystwith 27 27 > Knight William Aberystwyth 27 27 > Owens Mary Aberystwith 27 27 > Thomas Margaret Aberystwith 27 27 > > Marriages Dec 1849 > > Bowen John Carmarthen 26 839 > Charles Mary Carmarthen 26 839 > Davies John Carmarthen 26 839 > Jones Daniel Carmarthen 26 839 > Jones Jane Carmarthen 26 839 > Walters David Carmarthen 26 839 > Walters Mary Carmarthen 26 839 > Williams Sarah Carmarthen 26 839 > > Searching for marriages for both Daniel Jones and Jane Jones separately, brings up a number of avenues to research. > There are an odd number listed, which suggests that there is a missing male or female. > > Marriages Dec 1850 > > Jones Daniel Aberayron 27 * > > Marriages Sep 1850 > > Jones Daniel Lampeter 27 72 > > Marriages Mar 1851 > > Jones Daniel Lampeter 27 74 > > Marriages Jun 1851 > > Jones Daniel Lampeter 27 73 > > Morgans Richard Aberystwyth 27 73 > > Williams Anne Lampeter 27 73 > > > Marriages Mar 1852 > > Jones Jane Tregaron 11b 154 > > > Marriages Jun 1852 > > Jones Jane Aberystwith 11b * > > > Marriages Sep 1852 > > Jones Jane Aberystwyth 11b 89 > Morris Thomas Aberystwyth 11b 89 > Poole Hannah Aberystwyth 11b 89 > > > Marriages Sep 1849 > > Davies David Aberayron 27 15 > Ellis David Aberayron 27 15 > Jenkins Sarah Aberayron 27 15 > Jones Jane Aberayron 27 15 > JONES Thomas Aberayron 27 15 > Price Margaret Thomas Aberayron 27 15 > Rees John Jenkin Aberayron 27 15 > Thomas Ann Aberayron 27 15 > Thomas Margaret Aberayron 27 15 > > Plenty of suggestions for further research. > > Best wishes, > > Achwr > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Aug 23 2013, 09:06 PM > From: "Lynne Ingalls" <lynne.ingalls@comcast.net> > To: "Buddug Hollett" <BUDDUGH@talktalk.net>, "dyfed" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] lledrod baptisms > > Buddug - There's a Daniel Jones marriage listed on FreeBMD, Apr-Jun 1852 at > Swansea. On the same list is a Sarah Jane Lobbett. Maybe? > > Lynne in Tucson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Buddug Hollett > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:41 PM > To: dyfed > Subject: [Dyfed] lledrod baptisms > > Hi > In my previous email regarding some help with 3 baptisms in Lledrod , > I have now found some more information on these so ,please ignore my > request . However , I'm still trying to locate the marriage of Daniel > and Jane Jones in Lledrod . > My apologies to anyone for any possible inconvenience > Diolch > Buddug Hollett > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ACHWR > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Reg, The archives of the London Missionary Society, are held by the School of African and Oriental Studies part of the University of London. This is probably the reference you need. Office Use Only CWM/LMS/01/02/1 Title Registers of Legacies Date(s) of Creation 1817-1912 Level of Description Sub-Series Extent 6 boxes (9 vols) Held at: SOAS, University of London Description Registers containing information on legacies given to the London Missionary Society. Volumes include lists of benefactors, arranged chronologically by date in which the will was proven, information on next of kin, executors, the amount and the outcome of the legacy. Access Status Open Copyright Apply to SOAS Archives & Special Collections in the first instance Language(s) of Material English Achwr ======================================== Message Received: Aug 24 2013, 09:46 AM From: "David Rowlands" <drowlan1@bigpond.net.au> To: "REGINALD DAVIES" <regandpaddy@btinternet.com> Cc: "dyfed@rootsweb.com" <dyfed@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [Dyfed] William Evans, Newport and gold mining I think that might be 'Burrumbeet', Victoria, Reg. You could try searching Trove, the National Library of Australia's site which includes digitised newspapers (there are 52,000 odd hits for Burrumbeet!) http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=Burrumbeet Hwyl David Canberra On 24/08/2013, at 5:53 PM, REGINALD DAVIES <regandpaddy@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello List,William Evans born 1830 at Parcymarriage, Newport, Pembrokeshire, a master mariner, left the sea aged 38 and built a grand house (for Newport),which is today's Lloyd Bank at the Square. How did he have the means to do this? A local historian had suggested that he had made money in the Californian gold rush. > After passing as a master mariner most of his sailings had been in the Atlantic. However his application to become a master showed that he sailed as a mate on the Alice of Sydney between 16 June and 18 November 1853. His application then showed a gap in his sailings of nearly 4 years. So assuming that the Alice sailed in Australian waters he can be shown to have been in that subcontinent. > In his will, probate 1908, he bequeathed to the London Missionary Society a piece of land in the parish of Burrumbees, Victoria, Australia which I understand was once a gold mining area. Could this have been a source of his wealth? Can one find out the exact location of his land and what the Missionary Society did with it. > > hwyl > Reg Davies > http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ACHWR

Hello Reg, There is a book listed in the National Library of Australia: * Local history ephemera. * File: NMFC 4424. * Material collated by the North Melbourne Library for the Local History Collection. * Three typed and photocopied letters written by William Evans to his mother and father. William Evans arrived in Victoria (Hobson's Bay, Port Phillip) from Wales in the year 1853. His letters dating 12th September 1853, 23rd September 1853 and 9th March 185? outline his travels, work, accommodation and personal relationships. http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/28180950?q&versionId=34092119 Good reading! Dai On 24/08/2013 08:53, REGINALD DAVIES wrote: > Hello List,William Evans born 1830 at Parcymarriage, Newport, Pembrokeshire, a master mariner, left the sea aged 38 and built a grand house (for Newport),which is today's Lloyd Bank at the Square. How did he have the means to do this? A local historian had suggested that he had made money in the Californian gold rush. > After passing as a master mariner most of his sailings had been in the Atlantic. However his application to become a master showed that he sailed as a mate on the Alice of Sydney between 16 June and 18 November 1853. His application then showed a gap in his sailings of nearly 4 years. So assuming that the Alice sailed in Australian waters he can be shown to have been in that subcontinent. > In his will, probate 1908, he bequeathed to the London Missionary Society a piece of land in the parish of Burrumbees, Victoria, Australia which I understand was once a gold mining area. Could this have been a source of his wealth? Can one find out the exact location of his land and what the Missionary Society did with it. > > hwyl > Reg Davies > http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/ > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DYFED-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List,William Evans born 1830 at Parcymarriage, Newport, Pembrokeshire,  a master mariner, left the sea aged 38 and built a grand house (for Newport),which is today's Lloyd Bank at the Square. How did he have the means to do this? A local historian had suggested that he had made money in the Californian gold rush. After passing as a master mariner most of his sailings had been in the Atlantic. However his application to become a master showed that he sailed as a mate on the Alice of Sydney between 16 June and 18 November 1853. His application then showed a gap in his sailings of nearly 4 years. So assuming that the Alice sailed in Australian waters he can be shown to have been in that subcontinent. In his will, probate 1908, he bequeathed to the London Missionary Society a piece of land in the parish of Burrumbees, Victoria, Australia which I understand was once a gold mining area. Could this have been a source of his wealth? Can one find out the exact location of his land and what the Missionary Society did with it.   hwyl Reg Davies http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/